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Drew311 02-08-2013 07:47 PM

Tyler Myers to Toronto
 
Before we get into value, I have a few questions for Sabres fans.

1) What has happened to Myers' game? Is it a confidence issue?

2) Would you want Myers to be traded considering his value is at an all time low?

3) Would you want him moved in a one for one Schenn - JVR like trade, where both players could benefit from a change of scenery?

So what would Sabres fans be looking for?

Rasmus Reichel 02-08-2013 07:51 PM

Wouldnt trade him now and definately not in the division, way to much potential

12345* 02-08-2013 07:54 PM

Pass on Myers. Buffalo doesn't want to trade him and everyone in the league knows he has sucked for an extended period of time on a bad contract but with loads of potential.

Drew311 02-08-2013 07:57 PM

Yeah I understand this, but that isn't the point of the thread. It's a hypothetical discussion.

I'd like to know why he's struggling and what his value is to Sabres fans.

Rasmus Reichel 02-08-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 12345 (Post 59325457)
Pass on Myers. Buffalo doesn't want to trade him and everyone in the league knows he has sucked for an extended period of time on a bad contract but with loads of potential.

He's really only sucked for the majority of this season, he was atleast a good top 4 D man last year and a top pairing man his first 2 seasons

Drew311 02-08-2013 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood (Post 59325671)
He's really only sucked for the majority of this season, he was atleast a good top 4 D man last year and a top pairing man his first 2 seasons

I would argue he wasn't very good last season. He was definitely inconsistent.

He finished the season strong but had a pretty rough first few months.

Coconut Head 02-08-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drew311 (Post 59325079)
Before we get into value, I have a few questions for Sabres fans.

1) What has happened to Myers' game? Is it a confidence issue?

2) Would you want Myers to be traded considering his value is at an all time low?

3) Would you want him moved in a one for one Schenn - JVR like trade, where both players could benefit from a change of scenery?

So what would Sabres fans be looking for?

1. Lindy Ruff happened
2. Some sabres fans may, but we should really hold onto him for now
3. It would have to be for a forward of equal value, the leafs' assets are on defense (gardiner, rielly), which we don't really need at this point

Phion Keneuf 02-08-2013 08:17 PM

Meh. Would've kept Luke Schenn if we wanted an underachieving Dman.

1972 02-08-2013 08:19 PM

Ok I will play along, TOR 1st in 2013 or 2014 at Sabres choice, would need to be more coming to BUF.

1972 02-08-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 59326777)
Meh. Would've kept Luke Schenn if we wanted an underachieving Dman.

Big difference..

Drew311 02-08-2013 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pouncebounce (Post 59326713)
1. Lindy Ruff happened
2. Some sabres fans may, but we should really hold onto him for now
3. It would have to be for a forward of equal value, the leafs' assets are on defense (gardiner, rielly), which we don't really need at this point

What has Ruff done to him? He was the Sabres coach when Myers was considered one of the most promising young defensemen in the league.

New Sabres Captain 02-08-2013 08:21 PM

Would have to be a lot to trade him in the division. And with his value at an all-time low, now is not the time to be moving him from an asset management perspective either. Better off hoping he rebounds--he's shown a few glimpses lately, but hopefully the full game will come back.

Coconut Head 02-08-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Drew311 (Post 59326935)
What has Ruff done to him? He was the Sabres coach when Myers was considered one of the most promising young defensemen in the league.

I really wish I knew. This team is a mess, I have no idea what's going on. Myers's skating is noticeably worse, he's gone from smooth to complete Bambi legs. Another thing that could factor into it is the fact that his partner needs to be a stay-at-home guy. The reason Myers succeeded in his rookie year is because he had Henrk Tallinder. Jordan Leopold isn't exactly a defensive wizard

Phion Keneuf 02-08-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Darcy Regier (Post 59326921)
Big difference..

You're right, Schenn is actually competent defensively.

You're not going to fool me, I've watched almost every Sabres game this year
Only thing he has going for him is his "potential" which can easily disappear if he keeps it up

HappyGilmourr 02-08-2013 08:34 PM

Myers has huge potential I wouldn't let him go anywhere.

Wizeman* 02-08-2013 08:39 PM

In my opinion fair trade value for Myers is Gardiner and Kadri . Maybe Buffalo throws in a 3rd .

Phion Keneuf 02-08-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizeman (Post 59327635)
In my opinion fair trade value for Myers is Gardiner and Kadri . Maybe Buffalo throws in a 3rd .

Nope. Kadri isn't going anywhere. Not to mention that is a brutal overpayment.

Wizeman* 02-08-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 59327777)
Nope. Kadri isn't going anywhere. Not to mention that is a brutal overpayment.

I disagree. Show your proof its 'brutal overpayment' .

Rasmus Reichel 02-08-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 59326777)
Meh. Would've kept Luke Schenn if we wanted an underachieving Dman.

Except the difference is schenn never achieved, myers has shown number 1 ability already

kihei 02-08-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 59326777)
Meh. Would've kept Luke Schenn if we wanted an underachieving Dman.

There you go. Plus, it really isn't Dmen who we should be flirting with.

Rasmus Reichel 02-08-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 59327777)
Nope. Kadri isn't going anywhere. Not to mention that is a brutal overpayment.

Brutal overpayment? Regardless of ten rough games its still Myers>Gardiner

Drew311 02-08-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood (Post 59327977)
Except the difference is schenn never achieved, myers has shown number 1 ability already

I would argue that Schenn did achieve in his rookie season, just like Myers. Schenn was the Leafs best defenseman most nights in the 2008-09 season. He wasn't drafted to put up 40 points a season. He was drafted to be a rock solid, physical shutdown defenseman, which he was for a season or two. Just like Myers, he has regressed since being drafted, so neither player should be held higher than the other. It doesn't matter who has more potential, it's about what each player has become to date.

Coconut Head 02-08-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheyAreGoodScaryGood (Post 59328163)
Brutal overpayment? Regardless of ten rough games its still Myers>>>Gardiner

Coming from a sabres fan, that's highly debatable

Pay Carl 02-08-2013 08:56 PM

Im not sure playing in Toronto of all places is gonna help his confidence

Dick Whitman 02-08-2013 09:00 PM

If Myers were available, I'd love to see him in Ottawa. We've got a good history of developing dmen and we've probably got the assets to make it happen.


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