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flameaholic 02-08-2013 11:53 PM

[cgy/tor]
 
To::leafs
Greg Nemisz

To::flames
Joe Colborne

Colborne's a Calgary boy, Nemisz is an Ontario kid. Both players were former 1st round picks in 2008 (Colborne -16, Nemisz - 25). Both players are close to - if not already - being labelled as busts. A change of scenery might benefit both.

Fair trade?

Phion Keneuf 02-08-2013 11:53 PM

Nope, still pretty high on Colborne.

Dark Knight 02-08-2013 11:59 PM

I'll keep Colborne.

Still think he can be a pretty good 3rd line C if not higher.

Cu Culann 02-08-2013 11:59 PM

Leafs still value Colborne. He's big, they can find some use for him.

kihei 02-09-2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flameaholic (Post 59334723)
To::leafs
Greg Nemisz

To::flames
Joe Colborne

Colborne's a Calgary boy, Nemisz is an Ontario kid. Both players were former 1st round picks in 2008 (Colborne -16, Nemisz - 25). Both players are close to - if not already - being labelled as busts. A change of scenery might benefit both.

Fair trade?

I don't know. Your guy seems closer to being a bust than our guy, though I could be wrong. If we're trading long shots, though, it has to be a centre for a centre. So, no trade for us.

TOGuy14 02-09-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flameaholic (Post 59334723)
To::leafs
Greg Nemisz

To::flames
Joe Colborne

Colborne's a Calgary boy, Nemisz is an Ontario kid. Both players were former 1st round picks in 2008 (Colborne -16, Nemisz - 25). Both players are close to - if not already - being labelled as busts. A change of scenery might benefit both.

Fair trade?

Nope. Colborne has actually done something in the AHL and shown signs of a pulse in the NHL.

Niemsz has been a bust, Colborne is still developing.

No chance this is a fair deal

FlamesFreak4 02-09-2013 09:34 AM

calgary takes the deal and runs.

QMJHLfollower 02-09-2013 10:20 AM

Nemisz is a guy I'd like to have in the Leafs organisation, but not at the price of Colborne.

ronnyweed 02-09-2013 11:02 AM

Colborne is now 6'6 and finding his game, not a player you want to give up on

New Liskeard 02-09-2013 11:05 AM

Big no thanks. 6`6 center icemen with good hands, and vision are hard to find.

birddog* 02-09-2013 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flameaholic (Post 59334723)
To::leafs
Greg Nemisz

To::flames
Joe Colborne

Colborne's a Calgary boy, Nemisz is an Ontario kid. Both players were former 1st round picks in 2008 (Colborne -16, Nemisz - 25). Both players are close to - if not already - being labelled as busts. A change of scenery might benefit both.

Fair trade?

Colborne is not a bust. Played very well early last year - got hurt - and played all year with a wrist injury. Had off season surgery and is just starting to pick it up after a slow start. Still hope for Colborne and at 6'5" it will take him a little longer than most to grow into his frame.

birddog* 02-09-2013 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnyweed (Post 59343949)
Colborne is now 6'6 and finding his game, not a player you want to give up on

Did he grow?

TheHudlinator 02-09-2013 11:15 AM

They both suck and probably have little future outside of 4th line roles in the nhl Colbornw might be a third liner is everything goes well, its really swapping ahl players more than anything.

Noori 02-09-2013 11:34 AM

Nemisz is a bust so I doubt Toronto does this, even if Colborne's upside isn't as high as it once was.

ALI 02-09-2013 01:02 PM

Nemisz and Aliu for Joe ?

or

Breen ?

100 Third Graders 02-09-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birddog (Post 59344125)
Colborne is not a bust. Played very well early last year - got hurt - and played all year with a wrist injury. Had off season surgery and is just starting to pick it up after a slow start. Still hope for Colborne and at 6'5" it will take him a little longer than most to grow into his frame.

Funny thing is with the exception of the injury details and Colborne being a couple inches taller that was what I was going to say about Nemisz. The 2 players are extremely similar in every aspect it's almost eerie.

100 Third Graders 02-09-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noori (Post 59345243)
Nemisz is a bust so I doubt Toronto does this, even if Colborne's upside isn't as high as it once was.

You need to follow more than just statistic my friend. Nemisz has struggled this year but was very good in the previous 2, that does not make him a bust.

Noori 02-09-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbotsford Heat (Post 59363087)
You need to follow more than just statistic my friend. Nemisz has struggled this year but was very good in the previous 2, that does not make him a bust.

The fact that he is actually regressing instead of progressing makes it very apparent that he is a bust. Not just a step back, but many steps back. I don't know what else to call three points in 28 games.

Commander Clueless 02-09-2013 04:03 PM

Colborne may not be as promising a prospect as he once was, but the Leafs probably shouldn't give up on a 6'5'' project center. Hopefully he can have a healthy season one of these years and show us what he can really do.

100 Third Graders 02-09-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noori (Post 59367727)
The fact that he is actually regressing instead of progressing makes it very apparent that he is a bust. Not just a step back, but many steps back. I don't know what else to call three points in 28 games.

how many games have you actually watched him play in this year?

Trafalgar McLaw 02-09-2013 04:09 PM

Colborne at least still has some upside. Nemisz, well lets just say he'll be lucky to play 20 more NHL games.

BayStBullies 02-09-2013 04:27 PM

**** no; no chance in hell.

Calgary has absolutely nothing to benefit the Leafs; which is saying a lot.

Noori 02-09-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbotsford Heat (Post 59369213)
how many games have you actually watched him play in this year?

I'm not claiming to have watched him extensively. 3 points in 28 games after a couple of decent seasons is completely inexcusable. You keep saying 'I've watched him play' and yet, don't seem to offer any opinion apart from 'yeah, he's struggling, but he played well in the past.'

Tell me something I don't know.

MuchoMacho 02-09-2013 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birddog (Post 59344195)
Did he grow?

At his age I would guess it's just a more favorable measuring.

flameaholic 02-09-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayStBullies (Post 59370713)
**** no; no chance in hell.

Calgary has absolutely nothing to benefit the Leafs; which is saying a lot.

We're talking about the Toronto Maple Leafs, right? :huh:


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