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I am the Liquor 02-09-2013 01:26 AM

Oilers vs Red Wings (Krueger Jumps the Shark)
 
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OILERS: 4-3-3 DETROIT: 5-4-1





Game Day: Saturday, February 9th, 2013
Game Time: 12:10pm mtn
Radio: 630 Ched.
TV: CBC
Location: Joe Louis Arena


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Hartikainen - RNH - Eberle
Hall - Gagner - Hemsky
Eager - Vande Velde - Petrell
Yakupov - Smyth - Paajarvi

Smid - Petry
N Schutz - J Schultz
Potter - Fistric

Dubnyk
Khabibulin





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Franzen - Zetterberg - Brunner
Filppula - Datsyuk - Andersson
Cleary - Abdelkader - Tatar
Miller - Emmerton - Tootoo

Kronwall - Lashoff
Quincy - Ericsson
Kindle - White

Howard
Mrazek




Season series:
It's the first of three meetings between the teams this season. Detroit prevailed in three of their four meetings last season, with Drew Miller scoring four of his 14 goals against Edmonton. Sam Gagner had four goals to pace the Oilers in the series.

Big story: With an odd number of Canadian teams after Winnipeg's return to the NHL a season ago, Edmonton is the one out of seven that ends up facing a U.S.-based opponent on Hockey Day In Canada. The Oilers and Red Wings have developed a decent rivalry over the years, though -- it's hard to forget the upset eighth-seeded Edmonton pulled on Detroit in 2006 en route to the franchise's most recent trip to the Stanley Cup Final.

Team Scope:

Oilers: In his first season behind the Edmonton bench, coach Ralph Krueger has seen his young group battle hard in almost every game. Although they enter Saturday on a four-game winless streak, the points earned from the overtime/shootout losses kept them in the playoff race. Hosting the Stars on Wednesday, they got a goal and an assist from Ales Hemsky and took the game into overtime before yielding the record 17th career overtime goal by Jaromir Jagr in a tough 3-2 setback.

"It wasn't the greatest effort from us," defenseman Justin Schultz, whose power-play goal in the third period helped earn the Oilers a point, said. "We found a way to come back in the third period, but we needed to find a way to win it."

Red Wings: The expectation is workhorse Jimmy Howard will be back in net for Detroit, but coach Mike Babcock finally was able to get him a night off Thursday in St. Louis, and he had to be heartened by the response he got from rookie Petr Mrazek. In his NHL debut, the 20-year-old stopped 26 shots and led the Red Wings to a relatively easy 5-1 win against the St. Louis Blues. Five different Wings scored goals and 11 had at least one point. Cory Emmerton finished with a goal and an assist.

"The thing I liked about the kid was that he didn't generate second chances for them," Babcock said of Mrazek. "The puck wasn't coming off. He was soft and under control. Good for the kid. It's not an easy League to play in and St. Louis is a real good team. I thought our guys played hard and battled hard and in the end got a real big win."

Who's hot: Gagner had an assist Tuesday to extend his points streak to start the season to 10 games (3-8-11). Hemsky has two goals and two assists during a three-game points streak. Red Wings rookie Damien Brunner scored his fifth goal in 10 games Thursday.

Injury report: Edmonton forwards Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (shoulder), Darcy Hordichuk (facial laceration) and Anton Lander (foot), as well as defenseman Mark Fistric (back) all are day-to-day. Forwards Ryan Jones (eye), Ben Eager (concussion), Eric Belanger (foot) and Shawn Horcoff (hand), as well as defensemen Andy Sutton (knee) and Theo Peckham (hip) are on injured reserve. Detroit goalies Joey MacDonald (back) and Jonas Gustavsson (groin) remain out, along with defensemen Carlo Colaiacovo (shoulder) and Brendan Smith (shoulder) and forwards Jan Mursak (collarbone), Mikael Samuelsson (groin) and Darren Helm (back)

40oz 02-09-2013 01:32 AM

Nothing like a nooner

Chooch 02-09-2013 01:34 AM

4-1 Wings.

488McFitter 02-09-2013 02:01 AM

Is Whitney out confirmed? God I hope so...

I'd like to eventually see Yak and Nuge together. Besides having our best passer with the best finisher (up for debate I suppose), Nuge's defense would benefit Yak's liabilities IMO.

I am the Liquor 02-09-2013 02:11 AM

Lineups are tentative.

orangeshinpads 02-09-2013 02:11 AM

Are those the line combinations?

shoop 02-09-2013 02:14 AM

Appears to be two teams, slowly, going in the opposite direction. Both have had a lot of injuries.

The Oil are slowly trending up. The Red Wings aren't playing up to their historical standards.

Oilers win if RNH plays. If not, the streak continues. :cry:

Las Vegas odds - 200 Dubie lets in a bad goal!

488McFitter 02-09-2013 02:18 AM

Yeah the bottom 6 in practice without VV were...

Paajarvi - Belanger - Yak
Eager - Smyth - Petrell

With Yak getting time on the right side, I think...

pSlayer* 02-09-2013 02:22 AM

Yakupov with Paajarvi.... dat speed :amazed:

T-Funk 02-09-2013 02:24 AM

Nitpicking, but one would assume your top 2 lines are out of order
Maybe it's because you're upset at Gagner +8 Horcoff 0 :nod: (in the 89/10 bet thread people)

If Whitney is out again, that would tell me Krueger at least knows what accountability means despite the ongoing Fistric "debacle of epic proportions."

Everlasting 02-09-2013 02:34 AM

Does my streamprovider troll me, or does this game actully starts 20:00 CET? :amazed:

nexttothemoon 02-09-2013 02:39 AM

Enjoy your new linemates Yak.

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Jepprey 02-09-2013 02:42 AM

Damn early games!
Lol

T-Funk 02-09-2013 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexttothemoon (Post 59337159)

They're just sheltering him










from ever scoring another goal

488McFitter 02-09-2013 02:49 AM

Big 2 points to say the least...

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McShiva 02-09-2013 02:54 AM

Nice GDT. :)

Think I will comment on the line up for the wings, they will be changed for the game Sunday when Belanger comes back, and then on Tuesday again because we may see Jones return. :handclap:

Hartikainen - RNH - Eberle
I like this. Harti adds some serious toughness to this line. He's good at working the boards, will be parked in front of the net for screens, and someone to go after dump ins. This line with Hall has been too busy playing cute with their excessive passing and refusing to dump the puck in. Hopefully RK will have beaten them out of that finally, it's the main reason the first line hasn't been producing, they keep trying to beat 3-4 people at the blue line, and ending up coughing up the puck

Hall - Gagner - Hemsky
Will miss Yak, but I see the reason here. Hemsky is a huge puck hog, and has trouble sharing, which sort of negates a sniper like Yak. Hall is here to add chaos, and would be better at picking up loose pucks, add a bit more muscle at the boards, and as well as play better defensively.

Yakupov - Smyth - Paajarvi
Weird line. Smyth is running out of gas, but then you have pure speed here with the other 2. Yak will do the Hemsky role, and I expect we all will be surprised that his defensive play is better when he is on his natural side. MPS, this is your shot to stick. I wouldn't be surprised if RNH or Gags does the occasional double shift here to replace Smyth

Eager - Vande Velde - Petrell
Doubt we will see much of this line. I expect Eager to be rusty, and a little gun shy from the rough stuff. he may get more time than horti, but not much more.

Potter - Fistric
This is one of those cross your fingers and hope to god it works kind of thing.

Dubnyk

McPuritania 02-09-2013 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nexttothemoon (Post 59337159)

:laugh: lol'd but true.

Soundwave 02-09-2013 04:35 AM

*In theory* running three more offensive lines is OK by me, but I'd prefer to see something like

Harti RNH Eberle
MPS Gagner Yakupov
Smyth Hall Hemsky
Eager Belanger Petrell/Jones

No 1st/2nd/3rd line designation, whoever is playing better gets more minutes, period.

Nail and Nuge 02-09-2013 05:13 AM

I despise Yak on the third/ fourth line. Eight points in 10 games? Congratulations, here is an 87 yr old Smyth and a non-finisher in Paajarvi. Ugh.

McClelland 02-09-2013 05:35 AM

Hall and hemsky is going to cross check each other for the possesion of the puck all night long! That line smells turnover long way!

Replacement 02-09-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave (Post 59337945)
*In theory* running three more offensive lines is OK by me, but I'd prefer to see something like

Harti RNH Eberle
MPS Gagner Yakupov
Smyth Hall Hemsky
Eager Belanger Petrell/Jones

No 1st/2nd/3rd line designation, whoever is playing better gets more minutes, period.

Man Gagner gets a lot of love on this board. I wouldn't wish this on my least favorite player.

He gets a bunny leaping gnome on left wing, a guy in his first 10GP in NHL on right wing, drags Whitney along all day every day, and is expected to carry that load like a veteran C.

jebus lets shoot Gagner with tranquilizer darts at regular shift intervals as well to ensure his numbers and play dropoff a cliff.

That contract negotiation will be difficult otherwise.

Doppler Drift 02-09-2013 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McClelland (Post 59338213)
Hall and hemsky is going to cross check each other for the possesion of the puck all night long! That line smells turnover long way!

Hmmmmm. Here are their lines over the last six according to NHL.com

N. Yakupov -3, 2 Gva, 0 Tka, 3 G, 3 A, 6 P
A. Hemsky -1, 2 Gva, 3 Tka, 3 G, 2 A, 5 P
S. Gagner 0, 3 Gva, 1 Tka, 1 G, 6 A, 7 P
T. Hall 0, 4 Gva, 7 Tka, 1 G, 4 A, 5 P
J. Eberle -2, 2 Gva, 4 Tka, 1 G, 1 A, 2 P
Nugent-Hopkins -1, 5 Gva, 2 Tka, 0 G, 2 A, 2 P

The worst culprit in the give away/Take away ratio is Hopkins at -3. Yakupov and Gagner follow at -2. Hemsky +1, Eberle +2 and Hall +3.

+/- is Yakupov worst at -3 followed by Eberle at -2. Everyone else is 0 or -1.

Hopkins and Eberle have both contributed a whopping 2 points over those 6 games (5 for Hopkins due to injury). All the others are around 1 PPG over that same period.

Might want to re-think that.

By the way, ALL high octane offensive players make a ton of give aways. Ever watch Malkin in action? It comes with the territory. If you keep your game low event you may not commit many give aways, but you aren't going to create jack squat either. Hemsky and Hall may give it away, but they obviously get it back quite often too.

harpoon 02-09-2013 07:13 AM

Waking up at 4:00 AM to watch this game. Sure hope the boys don't lay an egg.

Quote:

Originally Posted by McClelland (Post 59338213)
Hall and hemsky is going to cross check each other for the possesion of the puck all night long! That line smells turnover long way!

Just out of curiosity, which Oiler forwards do you like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doppler Drift (Post 59338525)
Hmmmmm. Here are their lines over the last six according to NHL.com
T. Hall 0, 4 Gva, 7 Tka, 1 G, 4 A, 5 P

Seven TKA is pretty impressive imo. But watching the games I gotta think the NHL is being kind by charging him with only 3 GVA.

Soundwave 02-09-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replacement (Post 59338437)
Man Gagner gets a lot of love on this board. I wouldn't wish this on my least favorite player.

He gets a bunny leaping gnome on left wing, a guy in his first 10GP in NHL on right wing, drags Whitney along all day every day, and is expected to carry that load like a veteran C.

jebus lets shoot Gagner with tranquilizer darts at regular shift intervals as well to ensure his numbers and play dropoff a cliff.

That contract negotiation will be difficult otherwise.

That's three top 10 picks on one line, one of them being the no.1 overall and the Oilers top goal scorer.

It's not Cogliano and Nilsson but some how I think he'd survive.

Replacement 02-09-2013 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave (Post 59338969)
That's three top 10 picks on one line, one of them being the no.1 overall and the Oilers top goal scorer.

It's not Cogliano and Nilsson but some how I think he'd survive.

What nonsense. Paajarvi, who has plateaued if not flatlined is not even remotely looking like at topten pick at this point and is looking like a complete offensive bust who we can hopefully transform into a role player. To put him in topsix at this point is a joke. He supports no offense and is virtually incapable of sustaining any play in the offensive end.
Yak as mentioned is brand new and benefits from some maturity around him. The average age of this line would be barely 21. In the NHL, playing topsix and facing line matching..:help:


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