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gbill2004 02-09-2013 05:31 PM

Al Montoya needs to work on his rebounds
 
Guy gives out some massive rebounds. That kind of tendancy will eventually get a goalie killed. He needs to work on that.

YWGinYYZ 02-09-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gbill2004 (Post 59373647)
Guy gives out some massive rebounds. That kind of tendancy will eventually get a goalie killed. He needs to work on that.

Sadly, at this point I'll take a big rebound on a first or second save, rather than seeing the puck in the back of the net. :laugh: Overall though I agree: his rebound control isn't the best.

GrandChelems 02-09-2013 05:41 PM

So we're doing this the day of a 1-0 win heh.

Back in the Bigs 02-09-2013 05:46 PM

true enough, some big rebounds today, but he got away with them....hey, 2 starts 2 wins :handclap:, given the way Pavs has looked a couple of times, if he doesn't get a little more steady maybe we should balance the load in nets a bit more and not automatically assume Pavs gives us the best chance to win

Gil Fisher 02-09-2013 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandChelems (Post 59374259)
So we're doing this the day of a 1-0 win heh.

No issue with tempering enthusiasm.

surixon 02-09-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gbill2004 (Post 59373647)
Guy gives out some massive rebounds. That kind of tendancy will eventually get a goalie killed. He needs to work on that.

I wonder if the problem has to do with rust and just might correct itself as he sees more game action. We need to remember that he didn't play at all during the lockout and has only started two games since the end of last season.

BigZ65 02-09-2013 06:12 PM

There were some rebounds, but he always knew where the puck was and didn't allow loose pucks to stay loose in his crease. That's the worst part of Pavelec's game.

Hawker14 02-09-2013 06:15 PM

I like those big juicy rebounds in front of the net. Makes it interesting !

Sweech 02-09-2013 07:58 PM

He's a decent puck handler which mitigates some of this. Also good at diving on top of the puck which he did several times today.

He was good at using his blocker to deflect into the corners, but I agree quite a few shots went of the pads and back into the slot.

puck stoppa 02-09-2013 08:21 PM

Guy plays once a month and we expect him to hold rebounds like Buff holds on to his plate at the Royal Fork Buffet. Give the guy a break! If he had work, rebound control would improve.

teucer 02-10-2013 01:37 PM

Pavs really isn't any better at rebounds lol

They both need work in their game but I'm hoping Al can challenge Pavs. Maybe the Big Cubano needed a fresh start with some heart and soul guys. No offense to any islander fans.

almostawake 02-10-2013 01:45 PM

Montoya is 27 years old and headed towards a career as a backup.

Basically, what he is now is what he's going to be. Sure he should work on it, but it's not like he's going to significantly improve all that much.

truck 02-10-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by teucer (Post 59431345)
Pavs really isn't any better at rebounds lol

They both need work in their game but I'm hoping Al can challenge Pavs. Maybe the Big Cubano needed a fresh start with some heart and soul guys. No offense to any islander fans.

This! A benefit for Al in this game was that he generally didn't put himself out of position making the first save. That made recovering for the 2nd save a lot easier.

Tintin's Ghost 02-10-2013 03:25 PM

Yes, he needs to work on rebounds. But this appeared to he his only liability on Saturday and if Jets can get to rebound first or continue to contain opposing forwards from cracking away at the rebounds then liability is greatly reduced. Problem is that next 3 opponents are bigger and, likely, more aggressive than the sloppy version of the Sens team that showed up yesterday.

Montoya may not have morphed into a great goalie but he was more than good yesterday and has earned, at least, next start.

Small Brain Presence 02-10-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by almostawake (Post 59431801)
Montoya is 27 years old and headed towards a career as a backup.

Basically, what he is now is what he's going to be. Sure he should work on it, but it's not like he's going to significantly improve all that much.

Glad you weren't Tim Thomas's motivational guru.

almostawake 02-10-2013 04:30 PM

At 27 Al Montoya is a former #6 overall pick that has received every opportunity to improve his game and establish himself as an NHL starter.

At 27 Tim Thomas was a former 9th round draft pick proving himself in Europe.

If Montoya displayed half the persistence and commitment to his craft Thomas did at the same age, he'd be an NHL starter.

scelaton 02-10-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by almostawake (Post 59441329)
At 27 Al Montoya is a former #6 overall pick that has received every opportunity to improve his game and establish himself as an NHL starter.

At 27 Tim Thomas was a former 9th round draft pick proving himself in Europe.

If Montoya displayed half the persistence and commitment to his craft Thomas did at the same age, he'd be an NHL starter.

You might be right, but this probably isn't the time to be too harsh on a guy who just got us a shutout.
Looking on the optimistic side, last year might have been a potential breakout year for Monyoya, prior to the concussion, and 26 isn't too old for a goalie to break out. We're still waiting for it to happen to Pavs, at the age of 25.:shakehead

sipowicz 02-10-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by puck stoppa (Post 59388639)
Guy plays once a month and we expect him to hold rebounds like Buff holds on to his plate at the Royal Fork Buffet. Give the guy a break! If he had work, rebound control would improve.

No kidding:handclap:

GrandChelems 02-10-2013 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by almostawake (Post 59431801)
Montoya is 27 years old and headed towards a career as a backup.

Basically, what he is now is what he's going to be. Sure he should work on it, but it's not like he's going to significantly improve all that much.

Tim Thomas with his Stanley Cup and 2 Vezinas, Dominik Hasek with his 6 Vezinas and 2 Harts, and and about 100 other NHL class goalies beg to differ.

almostawake 02-10-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scelaton (Post 59442661)
You might be right, but this probably isn't the time to be too harsh on a guy who just got us a shutout.
Looking on the optimistic side, last year might have been a potential breakout year for Monyoya, prior to the concussion, and 26 isn't too old for a goalie to break out. We're still waiting for it to happen to Pavs, at the age of 25.:shakehead

Don't see what I wrote as harsh. His role on this team is back up goalie. In that role he is performing well.

But it's not like 'working on his rebounds' is going to straighten him out. He's been working on his rebounds since before he was drafted. Three NHL clubs have put a fair bit of effort and resources into straightening out that aspect of his game. The number of hours he's spent working on his rebounds may very well exceed the number of hours any one poster on this board has spent on the ice in their entire life. And he's not even close to being done working on his rebounds because he'll be working on them until the day he retires.

But despite the effort he puts into them, it's very likely they will always be a problem for him and it's a bit silly to think it's just a matter of him having to work on them.


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