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Cujomi 02-09-2013 09:59 PM

Silfverberg so far?
 
Anyone else feel like he's poised for a breakout? He's been a bit snake bitten, and guys have been on him pretty quickly so far but I've noticed that each game he seems to be getting more and more chances and playing very, very well. He is just so smart and always seems to be in the right place defensively.

I've really been impressed with him so far, and considering the offence that we've had so far I'm not disappointed that he hasn't produced more. It will come.

My favorite prospect since Spezza and that says a lot (I learned my lesson about over-hyping from Rundblad...so I took it easy on Silfverberg).

He's a keeper.

18Hossa 02-09-2013 10:02 PM

He should be finding his touch soon like he did in Binghamton.

Benny FTW 02-09-2013 10:36 PM

He looks quacktastic out there.

MainDotC 02-09-2013 10:41 PM

I think he's been snakebitten. His success was really stalled being on a line with fatendresse. I think he's playing great defencively and on the backcheck but he hasn't had the opportunities to score that he should be having.

SensFactor 02-10-2013 12:07 AM

Personally I think he needs more time in the AHL....
I would rather have seen him play a full season in Bingo....at time he's just not at the right place at the right time...

Benny FTW 02-10-2013 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensFactor (Post 59410473)
Personally I think he needs more time in the AHL....
I would rather have seen him play a full season in Bingo....at time he's just not at the right place at the right time...

He's too good for the AHL. He just needs adjustment time in the NHL. Not every player comes into the league scoring a lot.

arglebargle 02-10-2013 12:36 AM

^^^I strongly disagree. He seems to be progressing pretty quickly along the learning curve. There's no sense in sending him back down when he's clearly getting better every game.

He's got a pretty good shot, so it seems unlikely to me that his shooting% will stay at 7% forever.

Rumcajs 02-10-2013 01:08 AM

Hes doing fine and has earned his spot on the squad.

The only thing he needs to get used to, which I have noticed he has definitely improved on, is to be able to shoot with pressure. Tons of his SEL goals had the other D applying looser pressure.

Also he needs to watch more Alfie tape. He has the same playing style but needs to learn the "Alfie turn"...

Enter the zone.
Nobody open.
90 degree turn near the blue line and find the late man or dump.

mach777 02-10-2013 02:36 AM

He is a bit slow on his skates and decision making. I want to see more hustle, and he should reinvent his game from there.

To me he looks a bit scared. Defensively: yeah he is where he should be, but he doesnt win many battles to loose pucks because he doesn't hustle.

Zibanejad has been much more of a factor so far and he is supposed to be a mile behind in accomplishment and development.

ReginKarlssonLehner 02-10-2013 02:38 AM

Compared to the beginning of the season he has improved tenfolds. He will only get better. He started off slow in the A but could not be stopped once he got comfortable.

delchief 02-10-2013 05:09 AM

He looks good. Not scoring at a high pace yet but he looks like a top-6 NHL'er in terms of his skill and shot.

Minister of Offence 02-10-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by mach777 (Post 59414789)
Zibanejad has been much more of a factor so far and he is supposed to be a mile behind in accomplishment and development.

When Mats Sundin was drafted 1st overall the people in Sweden thought some other guy was a better player. Forget the name but he went in the middle to late rounds I think. He didn't last in the league and Sundin became a HoFer.

Zibanejad's explosive and a big body with plus skills. The former two points are huge.

TSA0402 02-10-2013 07:01 AM

Not all rookies score 76 goals in their first season.

He is fine. Its been 10 games.

Legend Killer 02-10-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TSA0402 (Post 59416845)
Not all rookies score 76 goals in their first season.

He is fine. Its been 10 games.

Then theyre all busts

enviro61 02-10-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mach777 (Post 59414789)
He is a bit slow on his skates and decision making. I want to see more hustle, and he should reinvent his game from there.

To me he looks a bit scared. Defensively: yeah he is where he should be, but he doesnt win many battles to loose pucks because he doesn't hustle.

Zibanejad has been much more of a factor so far and he is supposed to be a mile behind in accomplishment and development.

I recall an interview with Sens scouting staff or someone in the know and they had Zbad ranked higher than Silf simply because of his raw talent. Silf is older and has put up better numbers but I think most hockey minds regarded Zbad as having a higher ceiling.

robsenz 02-10-2013 07:44 AM

He's really slow, loses battles along the boards because he doesn't position his body correctly to the puck. Constantly playing the perimeter and then getting out muscled in the corner.
His shot is wicked, but thats about it right now. His positional play has gotten better defensively...the first couple games not so much.
I want him to succeed, but the lack of speed I think will determine his effectiveness in the NHL.

Das Boot 02-10-2013 07:58 AM

I haven't yelled once at the TV because of Silfverberg.. that says something.

Wiercioch2Karlsson 02-10-2013 08:32 AM

I agree with much of what has already been written.

What I've noticed is that he is getting better - noticeably, every game - working the left wing boards, where he is managing to maintain possession for longer. It hasn't turned into any or many concrete chances that I can recall, but I think it eventually will. My problem with him so far is when he tries to go outside the defender on the right wing. He's not fast or strong enough, and regularly gets rubbed about along the boards. That annoys me because it kills the rush.

His hockey sense is so high, though, as is his defensive acumen.

My take so far is that he is a little timid, or not confident enough at this level. That was the case when he decided to stay in Sweden an extra, unexpected year. Then, it took him so time to get comfy in Bingo. I don't expect anything near a ppg pace once he's get comfortable this season, but I would expect his somewhat timid perimeter play to turn into something more confident - like cutting into the middle/slot and making things happen. Or at least I hope that.

Cujomi 02-10-2013 08:33 AM

I find it funny that people have said he's slow. He is just economical in his movement. I've seen him blow by a few guys and catch a few guys on the backcheck because of his speed. His first step isn't elite, but he has good speed and good high end speed.

He has constantly been coming away from battles in the corners with the puck (especially in the offensive zone) and he's been in front of the net a lot (no idea how you could call him a perimeter player).

Anyway, still have lots of high hopes for him. I know people are saying that Zibanejad has had more of an impact but I don't think that's true...and Silfverberg's understanding of the game is on a much higher level than Zibanejad's right now. In any situation I would rather have Silf out there. We'll see in a couple of years...but I think Silfverberg is just going to get better, too, as he gets more comfortable.

SevenOfSpades 02-10-2013 08:48 AM

I thought he had a good chance at the Calder due to his expected linemates: Spezza and Michalek. Due to injury this unfortunately hasn't been the case. I don't know if he's poised for a breakout, but I expect the difference between his rookie and sophomore seasons will be the opposite of Regin :sarcasm:

MainDotC 02-10-2013 08:59 AM

Silf was apparently the MVP over in the SEL but isn't doing anything here. I think that speaks volumes of the SEL.

ATdaisuki 02-10-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robsenz (Post 59417249)
He's really slow, loses battles along the boards because he doesn't position his body correctly to the puck. Constantly playing the perimeter and then getting out muscled in the corner.
His shot is wicked, but thats about it right now. His positional play has gotten better defensively...the first couple games not so much.
I want him to succeed, but the lack of speed I think will determine his effectiveness in the NHL.

lol

he's not slow, his acceleration makes him look that way. his top speed is good, but not great. we have a really fast team, so an average skater might look "slow".

one part of his game that has been impressive has actually been his play along the boards. this guy is grinding it out and keeping possession despite two players attacking him. he looks quite strong or at least tenacious along those boards.

his first few (three?) games he was getting used to the system. i think he has had it since then and has been in the right spot in the defensive zone ever since.

i think the problem with silf's production has already been pointed out: he is getting really tightly checked. he's not getting a chance to get his shot off. i think this can be attributed to:

-smaller ice surface. less time and space automatically
-his below average acceleration and average/slightly above average speed. not as much space to skate into, and not fast enough to blow my defenders.

i think he'll put things together and start making goalies look silly with his shot, it just might take another five games. it might even take longer.

take a peek 02-10-2013 09:09 AM

I think he has looked very good.

Definitely needs time to adjust and improve but really really like what I see.

I have no doubts he will develop into a top 6 forward.

Greeningfan14 02-10-2013 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Vodkanator (Post 59417423)
I haven't yelled once at the TV because of Silfverberg.. that says something.

I did when he scored his 1st goal

Ghost in the Shell 02-10-2013 10:13 AM

I wish he would get more PP time, I can't understand for the life of me why we use offensive blackholes like Greening and Smith... Also its not as if Neil is having a big effect either.


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