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thestonedkoala 02-10-2013 04:16 AM

Montreal/Minnesota
 
To Montreal:
Cal Clutterbuck
Matt Kassian

To Minnesota:
Lars Eller
Morgan Ellis

Why does Montreal do this?
Clutterbuck and Kassian give Montreal size and grit they need.

Why Minnesota does this?
Gives Minnesota a right handed shot for defense and defensive depth. It also gives them a good sized center, which they need for their 2nd line. Eller was the 13th overall pick and has good upside.

Billy Mays Here 02-10-2013 04:22 AM

I fail to see how Eller is an improvement over Granlund and Ellis would never make the Wild squad right now. We already have better options than him down in Houston. And with Brodin on the top pairing with Suter, that eliminates the need for another right handed d-man since we already have Spurgeon, Prosser and Gilbert.

D pairings will look something like this for quite a while I'm sure:

Suter - Brodin
Scandella - Gilbert
Stoner - Spurgeon
Falk/Prosser

sansabri 02-10-2013 04:23 AM

i don't see this being a good deal for the Wild.

HappyGilmourr 02-10-2013 04:24 AM

LOL is this cause you guys got beat up tonight :sarcasm:

thestonedkoala 02-10-2013 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WILDhockeyfan (Post 59415353)
I fail to see how Eller is an improvement over Granlund and Ellis would never make the Wild squad right now.

Eller would be an improvement over Granlund because Granlund is better used as a winger for now. Eller has some size over Granlund and it would give Minnesota some options right now they need as Cullen/Brodziak/Konopka isn't cutting it as a 2nd line center and Granlund hasn't shown consistency at center.

Furthermore, why would Ellis need to make the Wild now? We need defensive depth and badly.

Quote:

We already have better options than him down in Houston. And with Brodin on the top pairing with Suter, that eliminates the need for another right handed d-man since we already have Spurgeon, Prosser and Gilbert.
Prosser? Really? Spurgeon has been injured in two separate seasons. He's not reliable in the line up.

We don't have better options in Houston on either of those guys.

So we lose Clutterbuck and Kassian is a wash. It's pretty much Clutterbuck for Ellis and Eller.

nickschultzfan 02-10-2013 09:44 AM

I agree that Eller isn't an upgrade over Granlund, who will be a good center if he keeps playing like he did in the last game.

otto bond 02-10-2013 09:55 AM

I really think that Montreal and Minnesota are good trading partners.

To the Wild:
Moen and Weber

To Montreal
Kassian-Falk

Kris Chreider 02-10-2013 09:56 AM

Really don't see the point of this trade. RHD is set, and inconsistency is to be expected from a rookie.

Don't try to sell us Kaberle.......

Kris Chreider 02-10-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otto bond (Post 59418435)
I really think that Montreal and Minnesota are good trading partners.

To the Wild:
Moen and Weber

To Montreal
Kassian-Falk

No thanks. We have no need for more forwards and Weber has been horrible. Our need is a top-4 LH DFD, our surplus is at wing.

otto bond 02-10-2013 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Chreider (Post 59418561)
No thanks. We have no need for more forwards and Weber has been horrible. Our need is a top-4 LH DFD, our surplus is at wing.

I would do Emelin plus a pick for Kassian and Falk

Kris Chreider 02-10-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otto bond (Post 59418793)
I would do Emelin plus a pick for Kassian and Falk

I like this very much. Would you be willing to add Prust? Emelin+Prust for Kassian+Falk+4th?

Domino11 02-10-2013 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Chreider (Post 59419025)
I like this very much. Would you be willing to add Prust? Emelin+Prust for Kassian+Falk+4th?

Montreal say hell no to this deal !! We give the 2 best player in this deal .. Prust is better then kassian and emelin is better then fall .. U probably don't know it but emelin is very useful for us ... He's the only one that can hit hard and he's very good in pk !!

otto bond 02-10-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Chreider (Post 59419025)
I like this very much. Would you be willing to add Prust? Emelin+Prust for Kassian+Falk+4th?

No I wouldn't add Prust. Maybe Blunden? I also would prefer Scandella to Falk so how about this:

Emelin/Moen/Kristo plus a 5th in a deep draft

for

Kassian/Falk/Scandella

otto bond 02-10-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Domino11 (Post 59419311)
Montreal say hell no to this deal !! We give the 2 best player in this deal .. Prust is better then kassian and emelin is better then fall .. U probably don't know it but emelin is very useful for us ... He's the only one that can hit hard and he's very good in pk !!

I agree and it bugs me to make a offer with him in it.

Domino11 02-10-2013 10:48 AM

We have no need for falk neither do we for kassian !!

bud12 02-10-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Chreider (Post 59419025)
I like this very much. Would you be willing to add Prust? Emelin+Prust for Kassian+Falk+4th?

are you high? no way in hell the habs do this. Kassian for a 5th round is the only things the habs will offer. Falk is useless and the habs will not trade their only tough player in Prust.

Sharppi 02-10-2013 11:45 AM

Kassian for a 5th? I'm okay with that.

Drydenwasthebest 02-10-2013 11:47 AM

"No" to trading Emelin for anything offered so far. We need another defenceman with some size who can pound people, we can not afford to give away our best hitting defenceman for less than what he is worth.

bud12 02-10-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharppi (Post 59422261)
Kassian for a 5th? I'm okay with that.

good, we have a deal!!

Mystifo 02-10-2013 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bozak (Post 59415387)
LOL is this cause you guys got beat up tonight :sarcasm:

I was thinking the same thing. :laugh:

Treb 02-10-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by otto bond (Post 59419819)
No I wouldn't add Prust. Maybe Blunden? I also would prefer Scandella to Falk so how about this:

Emelin/Moen/Kristo plus a 5th in a deep draft

for

Kassian/Falk/Scandella

Emelin >>>>>> Falk
Moen >>>>>> Kassian
Kristo+5th > Scandella


Wouldn't trade Emelin alone for Kassian and Falk....

Dharvey33 02-10-2013 02:32 PM

Only player i'd want would be Kassian guess why leafs fans?

Dampland 02-10-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treb (Post 59430031)
Emelin >>>>>> Falk
Moen >>>>>> Kassian
Kristo+5th > Scandella :laugh:


Wouldn't trade Emelin alone for Kassian and Falk....


Kristo's toes aren't included in the offer though, because they are out partying.

Bad Natey 02-11-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris Chreider (Post 59419025)
I like this very much. Would you be willing to add Prust? Emelin+Prust for Kassian+Falk+4th?

No. Prust is going nowhere.

Take out the 4th and switch Prust with Moen.

Although I probably wouldn't do it. I don't see where Kassian fits and Falk might not be better than anything we have (including our spare D's).

Treb 02-11-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dampland (Post 59468811)
Kristo's toes aren't included in the offer though, because they are out partying.

For a guy without toes that parties all the time, 1.4 ppg isn't bad. Still has top 6 potential. Don't really see Scandella as the D we need.


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