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Leafsforlife98 02-10-2013 09:54 AM

Mikhail Grabovski
 
With the Leafs having an abundance of 2nd line centers, Grabovski is becoming redundant. With the emergence of Nazem Kadri as the 2nd line center, Tyler Bozak playing awesome and Dave Nonis continuing to look for a #1 center, there is no longer a spot for Grabovski going forward at the center position. What teams could use him and what would they offer?

Phion Keneuf 02-10-2013 09:56 AM

Keep him. Who else is going to be our shutdown center? He's a huge reason we've looked better defensively this year

Petes2424 02-10-2013 10:14 AM

Here come the cannibal references....

Analyzer* 02-10-2013 10:15 AM

Should wait till the deadline next year. This ensures Kadri will (or should) play consistently well like he has. Isn't this a contract year for Kadri, too ?

The Podium 02-10-2013 10:17 AM

Kadris producing because hes playing sheltered minutes. He may not be ready for the added responsibility and until its definitive there is no reason to deal Grabovski.

exporta 02-10-2013 10:23 AM

Yeah, other then a few nut case Leaf fans, most of us like him and want to keep him. He's streaky point wise, but he's a good two way player and gives us three solid lines.

Zonk 02-10-2013 10:26 AM

IMO Kadri is a younger version of Grabovski. Both are small and feisty. Grabovski's defensive game developed as he gained experience.

I can't see the Leafs keeping both, but can see one of them being included in a package for a first or second line centre with more size.

Hotlanta 02-10-2013 10:30 AM

We currently have a winning team and we don't even have Gunnarsson, Gardiner, Brown, and Lupul in the line-up. Grabovski has been playing really well as our shut down center. Even too the point where I can hope he can become a Bergron lite. Unless somehow a 1st line center becomes available and Grabovski is one of the pieces going the other way, we keep this team. We have a cupboard full of prospects, 3 scoring lines and a goaltender that is playing well beyond expectations. As a fan base we are finally getting what we wanted, playing the young guys over scraps like L.A.C.K. Let's enjoy it.

TorontoTrades 02-10-2013 10:30 AM

Toronto doesn't need to start subtracting centers.

Hotlanta 02-10-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zonk (Post 59421443)
IMO Kadri is a younger version of Grabovski. Both are small and feisty. Grabovski's defensive game developed as he gained experience.

I can't see the Leafs keeping both, but can see one of them being included in a package for a first or second line centre with more size.

Nothing wrong with having two of a good thing. We have only 4 players on our roster that are shorter than 6' tall. Other than little firecracker JML and Kostka, who plays bigger than his actual size, we do not have a defenseman under 6'2" on our lineup. Size does not matter. It is about how you use your size and most of our shorter players will play larger than they are.

i.e. Frattin, Brown, Komarov

noBSleafsFAN 02-10-2013 10:40 AM

I dont think they should trade him, but to answer your question, probably a 2nd and a decent prospect.

roflstomper 02-10-2013 10:42 AM

I dont think Leafs fans will want to trade him one bit.

Phion Keneuf 02-10-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by noBSleafsFAN (Post 59422101)
I dont think they should trade him, but to answer your question, probably a 2nd and a decent prospect.

He'll get a 1st +.

Mystifo 02-10-2013 10:58 AM

We need Grabo right now. Wait a bit before trading him.

TML g u n n e R s* 02-10-2013 11:00 AM

aint going no where

Dark Knight 02-10-2013 11:02 AM

Absolutely love Grabovski. A guy comparable is Travis Zajac.

Grabo has indeed improved his defensive game this season and has the offense in him to go on a tear.

Fan favorite.

FishManSam 02-10-2013 11:33 AM

Please don't overrate Grabo, I like him, but he's not a "Top 2nd line center"

contour 02-10-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FishManSam (Post 59424259)
Please stop overrating Grabo, I like him, but he's not a "Top 2nd line center"

Agreed, I'm a Leafs fan, but he's an average 2nd line center who can dominate on some nights.

SEALBound 02-10-2013 11:40 AM

With that contract and cap hit, I don't see many takers TBH. TML are better off keeping him. He's worth more to the TML than the return he would yield.

noBSleafsFAN 02-10-2013 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 59422193)
He'll get a 1st +.

Not sure about that with his contract

Leafsforlife98 02-10-2013 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorontoTrades (Post 59421605)
Toronto doesn't need to start subtracting centers.

If they are redundant I would. Grabovski is a good piece, but he is not big enough to play shutdown center and also makes too much to be a 3rd line center. I like him as player, just not for this team going forward.

Leafsforlife98 02-10-2013 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Podium (Post 59421073)
Kadris producing because hes playing sheltered minutes. He may not be ready for the added responsibility and until its definitive there is no reason to deal Grabovski.

Kadri will always be getting sheltered minutes with Carlyle's team. Unless he moves up to the 1st line, his minutes will be always be sheltered. He is not good enough defensivly to be shutdown center. So he will either be #1 center and get major minutes or play center on the sheltered scoring line and get less minutes.

1st line Scoring
2nd line Sheltered scoring
3rd line Shutdown
4th line Energy

Kershaw 02-10-2013 12:00 PM

It's great to have depth at the center position.

kihei 02-10-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exporta (Post 59421297)
Yeah, other then a few nut case Leaf fans, most of us like him and want to keep him. He's streaky point wise, but he's a good two way player and gives us three solid lines.

Total agreement. He's still our best centre and there's nothing that says that we can't have three scoring lines as long as they are defensively responsible, which they have been to this point. The mentality, or maybe it's the attention span (or, more likely, both) of some Leaf fans, I swear to hell I don't understand.

SeenSchenn2 02-10-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tortorella (Post 59425631)
It's great to have depth at the center position.

This. Leave it be.


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