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DBU 02-11-2013 11:06 AM

Flames pickup G Joey MacDonald on waivers
 
Quote:

Sportsnet 960 The FAN
John Shannon: #Flames have picked up goaltender Joey MacDonald on waivers from the Red Wings.
Per Fan 960 Facebook page.

Signature 02-11-2013 11:08 AM

I guess this means Irving will be moved and the next 'in-the-system' goalie will be looked at as Ramo and Brossoit/Gillies.

nogger 02-11-2013 11:11 AM

The **** was the point of this?

Thumper17 02-11-2013 11:11 AM

Thoroughly unimpressed.

Ynnek 02-11-2013 11:12 AM

Interesting.

DBU 02-11-2013 11:12 AM

Pathetic treatment of assets if the Flames are just going to dump Irving...

Janko Unchained 02-11-2013 11:12 AM

:shakehead dislike

I Hate Chris Butler 02-11-2013 11:14 AM

Where is it said that Irving is being dumped?

DBU 02-11-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by I Hate Chris Butler (Post 59487079)
Where is it said that Irving is being dumped?

I said if

Calculon 02-11-2013 11:17 AM

This is what they waste one of the last contract spots on? I think Tyrell would have been of better use.

And I don't think this necessarily means Irving is gone. They could just be unimpressed by Taylor in practices and want MacDonald as a backup. Doesn't make much sense long-term though; not unless they are trading Irving - which would be a very stupid thing to do.

DBU 02-11-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Calculon (Post 59487223)
This is what they waste one of the last contract spots on? I think Tyrell would have been of better use.

And I don't think this necessarily means Irving is gone. They could just be unimpressed by Taylor in practices and want MacDonald as a backup. Doesn't make much sense long-term though; not unless they are trading Irving - which would be a very stupid thing to do.

MacDonald's contract is up at the end of this year so maybe it's just depth.

Hand of Gaudreau 02-11-2013 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by I Hate Chris Butler (Post 59487079)
Where is it said that Irving is being dumped?

Joey MacDonald IMO is being brought in to give Irving a legitimate backup while Kipper is out. I was under the opinion that if they had someone that could play in the NHL, Irving would have been pulled last game. Not because he was bad, not by a long stretch - see my other posts for my opinion on that game from him - but because I wouldn't want his confidence ruined as you could see where that game was headed. If MacDonald was there would Hartley have made a change to spark something and to get his future goalie out of the shooting gallery? Possibly. Would he have pulled Irving under any circumstances with Taylor back there? Highly unlikely, barring injury or Irving looking completely incompetent. I think this gives the Flames a better shot at winning back-backs and allows Hartley to actually coach his goaltending situation until Kipper comes back, nothing more, nothing less.

I Hate Chris Butler 02-11-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Duck Sauce (Post 59487097)
I said if

Jumping the gun nonetheless

Thumper17 02-11-2013 11:20 AM

Here's his stats.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=35678

29 goals in 14 games last year. That's concerning me. Then again, Kipper had 22 in 7.

Hand of Gaudreau 02-11-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper17 (Post 59487439)
Here's his stats.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=35678

29 goals in 14 games last year. That's concerning me.

Whats concerning about a 2.18 GAA from a backup?

Thumper17 02-11-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by IggyTheKid (Post 59487503)
Whats concerning about a 2.18 GAA from a backup?

Edited my post, not fast enough though.

I guess for a backup that's serviceable. Still, this makes zero sense.

Signature 02-11-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper17 (Post 59487439)
Here's his stats.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=35678

29 goals in 14 games last year. That's concerning me. Then again, Kipper had 22 in 7.

That's why Kiprusoff is consistent, if not elite. 22 in 7 = 3.1 GPG
MacDonald is only a paltry 2.1 in comparison.

We could really use that kind of secondary scoring.

/insert sarcasm here

I Hate Chris Butler 02-11-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper17 (Post 59487583)
Edited my post, not fast enough though.

I guess for a backup that's serviceable. Still, this makes zero sense.

Makes plenty of sense. I'd rather have MacDonald on the bench than Taylor and I'd rather have an experienced backup in net if Irving gets pulled.

Taylor goes down to Abby. Flames get a better backup at no extra cost.

Stewie Griffin 02-11-2013 11:31 AM

I'm concerned this means Kipper might be out for longer than we originally had hoped.

Mike Jones 02-11-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IggyTheKid (Post 59487359)
Joey MacDonald IMO is being brought in to give Irving a legitimate backup while Kipper is out. I was under the opinion that if they had someone that could play in the NHL, Irving would have been pulled last game. Not because he was bad, not by a long stretch - see my other posts for my opinion on that game from him - but because I wouldn't want his confidence ruined as you could see where that game was headed. If MacDonald was there would Hartley have made a change to spark something and to get his future goalie out of the shooting gallery? Possibly. Would he have pulled Irving under any circumstances with Taylor back there? Highly unlikely, barring injury or Irving looking completely incompetent. I think this gives the Flames a better shot at winning back-backs and allows Hartley to actually coach his goaltending situation until Kipper comes back, nothing more, nothing less.

I think that this is the main reason the move was made and that it could be a sign that Kipper will be out for longer than expected.

Thumper17 02-11-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by I Hate Chris Butler (Post 59487741)
Makes plenty of sense. I'd rather have MacDonald on the bench than Taylor and I'd rather have an experienced backup in net if Irving gets pulled.

Taylor goes down to Abby. Flames get a better backup at no extra cost.

Except that contract spot. What do we do when Kipper gets back? Under new rules we need to keep Mac up all season.

Need I mention Mac has just returned from a back injury? Bulging disk kept him out since march of last year.

Mike Jones 02-11-2013 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie Griffin (Post 59488021)
I'm concerned this means Kipper might be out for longer than we originally had hoped.

My money is on this as a reason.

DBU 02-11-2013 11:33 AM

Food for thought:

Quote:

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Kiprusoff skating today. If all goes well, Kiprusoff comes off IR and likely to play Wednesday. MacDonald expected to be Kiprusoff's backup.

MuffinMerc 02-11-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie Griffin (Post 59488021)
I'm concerned this means Kipper might be out for longer than we originally had hoped.

That would mean a larger window of opportunity for Irving.

Stewie Griffin 02-11-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Thumper17 (Post 59488097)
Except that contract spot. What do we do when Kipper gets back? Under new rules we need to keep Mac up all season.

Need I mention Mac has just returned from a back injury? Bulging disk kept him out since march of last year.

30 days is the limit, IIRC.

Still, yeah need to send someone... somewhere.


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