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Avs_19 02-11-2013 08:24 PM

Michael Bourn to the Indians
 
Quote:

@JonHeymanCBS
Michael bourn agrees to #indians deal
https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/sta...39171152637952

Quote:

@JonHeymanCBS
Bourn gets $48M for 4 yrs plus vesting option that could make it $60M for 5. #tribe
https://twitter.com/JonHeymanCBS/sta...40088606294016

davebenj 02-11-2013 08:30 PM

Bourn isn't very good. Good luck with that signing. I believe they also have to give a pick to the Braves, correct?

Pyro Kinesis 02-11-2013 08:34 PM

LOVE
LOVE ME DO
YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU

Indians man, LOVE this team.

robert terwilliger 02-11-2013 08:35 PM

interesting.

push stubbs to left? stubbs-bourne-swisher?

terrible rotation though.

Static 02-11-2013 08:47 PM

The missing piece?

Reality Check 02-11-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robert terwilliger (Post 59516553)
interesting.

push stubbs to left? stubbs-bourne-swisher?

terrible rotation though.

What do they do with Brantley though?

Unless Stubbs is their 4OF, I'm guessing Swisher is their DH.

I would like this a lot better if kept Choo and used the money wasted on Swisher on a couple of players.

Doctor Drej 02-11-2013 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robert terwilliger (Post 59516553)
interesting.

push stubbs to left? stubbs-bourne-swisher?

terrible rotation though.

Yeah it's not like Brantley is any good or anything...

Brantley-Bourn-Swisher

#goingforit

Marc the Habs Fan 02-11-2013 08:51 PM

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Bourn can earn $60M max. #Indians will lose competitive-balance pick, approximately No. 71 overall. They forfeited 2nd-rounder for Swish.

Not sure if that goes to ATL or if it just disappears.

Fish on The Sand 02-11-2013 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by robert terwilliger (Post 59516553)
interesting.

push stubbs to left? stubbs-bourne-swisher?

terrible rotation though.

Stubbs isn't good enough to start. Brantley would be the 3rd outfielder.

Marc the Habs Fan 02-11-2013 09:10 PM

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
#mets offered $48M for 4 yrs, so they were close. Went to mlb today and found draft-pick issue would have to go to grievance

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
#mets wouldn't do deal w/o retaining draft pick. Tough for bourn to wait on mets grievance, as it could take days/weeks

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
Reason #mets didn't request draft-pick issue to be resolved sooner is belief price would rise omce public pressure mounted

darko 02-11-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan (Post 59518547)
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Bourn can earn $60M max. #Indians will lose competitive-balance pick, approximately No. 71 overall. They forfeited 2nd-rounder for Swish.

Not sure if that goes to ATL or if it just disappears.


It disapperas. Atlanta gets a compensation round draft pick.


Angels gave up their 1st rounder for Hamilton. Rangers however didnt get Angels pick (around 20 overall). That pick is simply lost. Rangers will instead pick at the end of the 1st round after all the other teams have picked. So in reality in 5 teams give up 5 picks for signing free agents, 1st round affectively becomes a 25-pick round.

MurrayBannerman 02-11-2013 10:34 PM

Well, they have Trevor Bauer now, so it's not so bad.

Fire Sather 02-12-2013 01:41 AM

Mets saved from bad contract.

OrioleWay 02-12-2013 10:48 AM

Bourn CF L
Kipnis 2B L
Cabrera SS S
Swisher RF S
Reynolds 1B R
Chisenhall 3B L
Santana C S
Stubbs DH R
Brantley LF L

Too much left-handed hitters.

robert terwilliger 02-12-2013 10:55 AM

stubbs/brantley platoon i guess?

or they move swisher to first and lose some of his defensive value playing him there.

stubbs's's entire value is on defense. i can't see them trading for him and then having him as a 4th outfielder. and certainly not as a dh. a .312 career obp? .277 last year?! he's a d something but h isn't it.

or do they move him to the mets? he's better than anything the mets have anywhere in their outfield.

i think it's a decent move by the indians. bourn is a really, really, really good defensive player. they're at least trying to prop up their ****** rotation and not losing much w/r/t futures. they lost their second round pick signing swisher and the competitive balance pick signing bourn. it's only going to cost them money to finish behind the tigers this year.

Clowe Me 02-12-2013 11:05 AM

Can Bourn pitch?

OrioleWay 02-12-2013 11:50 AM

It seems to me that Indians badly needs some left handed relievers. Or they just gonna use Hagadone and Barnes all the way? David Huff is another option just because he's not a starting material anymore. Edit: They invite Rich Hill at the camp.

robert terwilliger 02-12-2013 02:18 PM

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index...ll-hole-at-dh/

good article by cameron.

Kershaw 02-12-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clowe Me (Post 59551843)
Can Bourn pitch?

Trevor Bauer.

darko 02-12-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tortorella (Post 59565287)
Trevor Bauer.


Dice K too. ;)

Fish on The Sand 02-12-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by darko (Post 59565685)
Dice K too. ;)

I doubt he makes the roster.

Clowe Me 02-12-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tortorella (Post 59565287)
Trevor Bauer.

Is 1 with potential, but hasn't proven anything.

DisgruntledHawkFan 02-13-2013 12:33 AM

Bourn is an elite defender with speed in his prime. The Tribe are getting a deal.

DisgruntledHawkFan 02-13-2013 12:40 AM

Bourn is an elite defender with speed in his prime. The Tribe are getting a deal.

Doctor Drej 02-13-2013 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imayagainknowanson (Post 59551095)
Bourn CF L
Kipnis 2B L
Cabrera SS S
Swisher RF S
Reynolds 1B R
Chisenhall 3B L
Santana C S
Stubbs DH R
Brantley LF L

Too much left-handed hitters.

Santana is a switch and IIRC, so is Cabrera. It's at least decent balance.


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