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Dangler99* 02-12-2013 12:00 AM

Where does Crosby rank as a sniper in the league?
 
Where would you rank him? As in topshelf goals

TheAngryHank 02-12-2013 12:06 AM

225th this season.

NjDevsRR 02-12-2013 12:08 AM

He has a very good release but I would put these guys in front of him. In no order Ovechkin Semin Kovalchuk Stamkos Perry Gaborik Neal Spezza Vanek Malkin.

But Crosby is a guy who can score in any fashion, he can also make his linemates score in any fashion as well.

7even 02-12-2013 12:13 AM

He definitely has the one-shot scoring ability of the Gaborik/Kovalchuk/Stamkos/Marleau/Kessels of the game, but it tends to go unnoticed because his playmaking is so freaking amazing.

Personally, I think he has a better backhand than he does wrist shot, which says a lot about just how good his backhand is :skeptic:

SimplySensational 02-12-2013 02:30 AM

I don't think I have really seen him on any consistent basis score from behind the face off circles. So I wouldn't rank him as a sniper.

Xav 02-12-2013 02:32 AM

Honestly Crosby scores some of the ugliest/luckiest goals in the league. In bunches at that.

But that is why he is as good as he is. Good scorers find ways to score.

I just would not label him as a sniper nor a playmaker. He's the perfect hybrid of both.

SillyRabbit 02-12-2013 02:32 AM

He may not be as good as a Kovalchuk or a Semin, but he's definitely in the top tier of snipers, I would put guys like Vanek and Spezza on the same level as him, not above him as another posted suggested.

Evincar 02-12-2013 02:48 AM

He's much better at scoring backhand and garbage goals etc. Great goal scorer but not really a sniper.

lampshade* 02-12-2013 02:50 AM

Below Kessel.

Stars23* 02-12-2013 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goalsfordinner (Post 59540971)
Where would you rank him? As in topshelf goals

So first people on here are putting Crosby as one of the "best danglers in the league" and now crosby is "definitely in the top tier of snipers"

oh man....LOL :facepalm:

MessierII 02-12-2013 02:58 AM

High

n3ss 02-12-2013 03:07 AM

Somewhere between Alex Semin and Rick Dipetro.

octopi 02-12-2013 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stars23 (Post 59544623)
So first people on here are putting Crosby as one of the "best danglers in the league" and now crosby is "definitely in the top tier of snipers"

oh man....LOL :facepalm:

Uh, not sure what's so ridiculous. He is a really good dangler. I don't think I could name 10 players I'd consider better in that category. He's not a sniper first, but he is a pretty good one. Not the absolute best, but in my opinion he's at least top 20. Which, let me check my count here....well, out of over 600 players, I'd say top 20 is really good.

Stars23* 02-12-2013 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octopi (Post 59544809)
Uh, not sure what's so ridiculous. He is a really good dangler. I don't think I could name 10 players I'd consider better in that category. He's not a sniper first, but he is a pretty good one. Not the absolute best, but in my opinion he's at least top 20. Which, let me check my count here....well, out of over 600 players, I'd say top 20 is really good.

"Elite" and "Really good" are two different things.

JSBach 02-12-2013 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7even (Post 59541367)
He definitely has the one-shot scoring ability of the Gaborik/Kovalchuk/Stamkos/Marleau/Kessels of the game, but it tends to go unnoticed because his playmaking is so freaking amazing.

Personally, I think he has a better backhand than he does wrist shot, which says a lot about just how good his backhand is :skeptic:



A case could be made.

id4joey 02-12-2013 04:27 AM

Crosby & Datsyuk are the best overall players of the league no doubt. Neither are the best snipers, but both are prolific goal scorers. In the pure sniper category I would go with Stamkos, but would pick either Crosby or Datsyuk first if I were building a championship team.

Jill Sandwich 02-12-2013 05:53 AM

Crosby isn't much of a sniper in the traditional, Brett Hull sense. His real skills when it comes to goals is his hands are extremely quick, so he can gather a loose puck in a scramble and fire it before defenders can react, and he's got exceptional hand-eye coordination, perhaps the best I've seen.

I will add, his backhand is ridiculous, especially earlier in his career when he was using the straight stick.

WhiskeyYourTheDevils 02-12-2013 06:01 AM

It depends on what you mean by "sniper". He doesn't have the heaviest wrist shot, and he doesn't pick goalies clean that often from the outside. What he does have is a wicked quick release and incredible timing/elusiveness around the net with elite hands. He's very much in the same mold of a Tavares/Parise/Skinner type goal scorer, who rely on timing, elusiveness, and quick hands to score.

When I think of top snipers I think of guys who primarily rely on an accurate, powerful shot to beat goalies. So guys that score most of their goals from the outside, high slot, or off of a one-timer:

Stamkos
Kovalchuk
Malkin
Semin
Ovechkin
Neal
Yakupov
Kessel

HMs:
Horton
Carter
Iginla
Setoguchi
Hall

And from the back-end, there are a few guys who can really pick corners:

J Shultz
M Green
Karlsson

Guys like Vanek, Perry, Nash are great goal scorers, but like Crosby, they rely less on their shot and more on their abilities around the net. Its not that they can't snipe, its just not something they primarily rely on. Guys like Kane, Sedin, Eberle, Perron, and Datsyuk all have wicked wristers off the top of the circle but they just don't rely on their shot as much.

Patmac40 02-12-2013 06:09 AM

I'd say his backhand is one of the best in the league, so there's that. But as far as picking spots goes, he makes shooting 5-hole look way too easy. He has a very good release that the goalie isn't always able to anticipate and makes it look like he could shoot a beachball in between the goalie's legs.

Mike Farkas 02-12-2013 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patmac40 (Post 59545945)
I'd say his backhand is one of the best in the league, so there's that. But as far as picking spots goes, he makes shooting 5-hole look way too easy. He has a very good release that the goalie isn't always able to anticipate and makes it look like he could shoot a beachball in between the goalie's legs.

This is a good start to the thread, certainly. With snipers, people are looking for that over-powering bullet to the roof. Like Alexander Semin, who owns the league's best wrist shot probably, just eats goalies alive with it. Crosby's game doesn't involve him launching 50-foot wrist shots.

He has a great release, a great snap shot and he can put it anywhere in a hurry. It's anticipation and read & react as to where he's putting it. It's not designed to be over-powering, it's designed to go in. Some people will say that's not a sniper in the traditional sense, which is fine, it might not be. But he's an astute goal scorer. Not so much a sniper as he is a world-class finisher.

Acallabeth 02-12-2013 07:36 AM

Nowhere. He's not a sniper. Just having an accurate shot isn't enough.
Quote:

He definitely has the one-shot scoring ability of the Gaborik/Kovalchuk/Stamkos/Marleau/Kessels of the game
:laugh:

Saku11 02-12-2013 07:39 AM

In his 50 goal season there was a lot of nasty snipes .He actually has a great shot, but as always HF refuses to admit he is any good at anything.

Igy 02-12-2013 07:44 AM

Top 10.

BROOKLYnKNIGHTS 02-12-2013 07:44 AM

Crosby has not played well this season and was inconsistent last season. He cant be considered the best player in the league anymore

What happened?

BROOKLYnKNIGHTS 02-12-2013 07:46 AM

I never considered Sid a sniper


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