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Jarick 02-12-2013 11:57 AM

Josh Harding
 
Just hoping it's nothing serious. Wonder if they put him on IR retroactive? Roster was full...

TaLoN 02-12-2013 12:00 PM

Hope it's nothing serious with Hards!

Jarick 02-12-2013 12:04 PM

No mention of Harding in the press release from the Wild.

Jarick 02-12-2013 12:27 PM

Ugh, Twitter went completely dark. No trade rumors, nothing.

THEALLKNOWING* 02-12-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 59558767)
Ugh, Twitter went completely dark. No trade rumors, nothing.

If you were another GM from around the league, would you trade for Harding considering his diagnosis? Absolutely not. Too much uncertainty considering there is no known cure. Harding's career will likely begin and end with the Wild.

Could this be the first of many M/S-related health issues?

Dee Oh Cee 02-12-2013 12:33 PM

We don't even know yet if there's anything wrong with him. It's too early for that kinda speculation I would think. Don't get me wrong, it is concerning though.

Jarick 02-12-2013 12:33 PM

Depends on what the return is. Islanders just traded for a goalie who will never play for them. Wild could certainly keep cap space in a deal as well.

forthewild 02-12-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 59559099)
Depends on what the return is. Islanders just traded for a goalie who will never play for them. Wild could certainly keep cap space in a deal as well.

yeah but that goalie carries a big cap hit Isles don't have to pay a dime of unless he plays also costs them nothing either and they can let the contract run out. Not the situation with Harding

Tho given Toronto lost a goalie.....

nickschultzfan 02-12-2013 01:01 PM

I hope Harding is ok!

He could be traded to the Islanders. They have been getting some terrible goaltending this year.

Jarick 02-12-2013 01:04 PM

@Russostrib:

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All 3 #mnwild goalies in the building, including Josh Harding. Chuck Fletcher to talk soon

Jarick 02-12-2013 01:09 PM

@Russostrib:

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Fletcher says Harding has been feeling "off" last few days #mnwild
That sucks.

Likely could mean a buyout of that contract.

And that really sucks.

I mean, it's smart, but it still sucks for Josh.

Dr Jan Itor 02-12-2013 01:11 PM

Harding retires, gets a job in the organization. Win-win.

THEALLKNOWING* 02-12-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 59561133)
@Russostrib:



That sucks.

Likely could mean a buyout of that contract.

And that really sucks.

I mean, it's smart, but it still sucks for Josh.

Wouldn't the contract be treated like PMB's, not agains the cap, or some sort of exclusion. Also, seems like there would be some sort of relief if forced to retire due to medical issues.

TaLoN 02-12-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by THEALLKNOWING (Post 59561315)
Wouldn't the contract be treated like PMB's, not agains the cap, or some sort of exclusion. Also, seems like there would be some sort of relief if forced to retire due to medical issues.

If he retires, his contract is off the books with no cap hit. It's only players who sign multi-year deals over the age of 35 that the cap hit hangs around.

GMAN23 02-12-2013 01:22 PM

Wow this has to be very trough on Hards right now. I hope he can battle though this.

Jarick 02-12-2013 01:23 PM

I believe if he retires he would forfeit his salary. If he just gets placed on IR or hangs around, he would collect even if he doesn't ever play.

This is premature still...just thinking out loud.

THEALLKNOWING* 02-12-2013 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 59561959)
I believe if he retires he would forfeit his salary. If he just gets placed on IR or hangs around, he would collect even if he doesn't ever play.

This is premature still...just thinking out loud.

Everyone is sensitive about this unfortunate matter. But its still a business, and caps have to be managed. One would think that while an employee of the Wild, there would be a long-term disability program.

He can live with MS. Unfortunately he may not be able to play in the highest caliber hockey league, with MS. The goal of the Wild is still to win games with the best players on the ice as possible.

BuddyMcCormick 02-12-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by THEALLKNOWING (Post 59562349)
Everyone is sensitive about this unfortunate matter. But its still a business, and caps have to be managed. One would think that while an employee of the Wild, there would be a long-term disability program.

He can live with MS. Unfortunately he may not be able to play in the highest caliber hockey league, with MS. The goal of the Wild is still to win games with the best players on the ice as possible.

Yes and no.

Dr Jan Itor 02-12-2013 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 59561959)
I believe if he retires he would forfeit his salary. If he just gets placed on IR or hangs around, he would collect even if he doesn't ever play.

This is premature still...just thinking out loud.

Not sure Leipold would like that. I don't think he makes enough for it to be insured.

Fel 96 02-12-2013 01:37 PM

All this retiring talk makes me sick.

rynryn 02-12-2013 01:37 PM

i hope "off" means some sort of minor imbalance or he's not mentally focused or something relatively tame. It sounds like Hards more or less pulled himself and you have to respect that as a class A team move from a guy so competitive, especially knowing that it's going to make the team leery about keeping him on the active roster.

TaLoN 02-12-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fel 96 (Post 59562739)
All this retiring talk makes me sick.

I don't think anyone here is enjoying this...

thestonedkoala 02-12-2013 01:41 PM

:( Hards has always been my favorite player. I hope that this is nothing too serious.

Jarick 02-12-2013 01:43 PM

I believe he felt "off" over the summer, which is what caused him to go to the doctor in the first place. Hopefully it's just a matter of getting his meds squared away, or he's a little run down, or something.

Blizzard6411 02-12-2013 01:46 PM

Why make this subject my first post? Because my wife has MS and was diagnosed 5 years ago shortly after we arrived in Seattle which is known for specialists in the field as the Northwest is a hot bed for MS cases.

Here is what i can share from my point of view.

Josh Hardings diagnosis should not have to mean the end to his career but because he has been so recently diagnosed there will likely be moments such as this while the drs try different medications or different amounts. MS is about maintenance now which is a far cry from even 10-15 years ago. Every individual is different however so there is no generic treatement that works across the board for everyone. Once they do hit on the proper medication and amounts Josh should be able to continue his career just as my wife has hers but and this is the big but for a professional athlete, he may be fine for a year..two..even more and then the situation can change which means tinkering with medication again.

I would imagine that as soon as the team gets back home Josh will get with his specialists and a brain scan will be done immediately to see if there has been any change since his last scan and they will adjust medication according to how he his feeling and the scan. This next scan is vital though since it is coming on the heels of what sounds like an attack and the main purpose of meds in treating MS is to lengthen the amount of time in between attacks. When attacks happen they can do irreparable damage that may allow a person to function normally but would certainly be damaging to a professional athlete.

Josh may need some time before he is "right" and while the medications get worked out but i believe that will happen for him just as it happened for my wife and so many others.

Being Wild fans and a family with MS the Hards story got our attention right away. We would have already been pulling for him but now our support goes well beyond just that of him being a goalie for our hometown team.


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