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Chukcha 02-16-2013 10:57 AM

Have 09/10 BlackHawks had the deepest roster ever?
 
I haven't seen a deeper roster ever. It was really impressive. Many players from that roster (even from bottom lines) are having bigger roles playing for other teams at present. Can any team ever be comparable in roster depth with them? And they still have an excellent roster despite all these squad losses!

fly4apuckguy 02-16-2013 10:59 AM

1979 Habs or 1982 Islanders or 1987 Oilers.

Islanderfan17 02-16-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fly4apuckguy (Post 59826559)
1979 Habs or 1982 Islanders or 1987 Oilers.

This

but the Hawks were impressive as hell in that cup run and boy oh boy were they so damn fun to watch.

Reign Nateo 02-16-2013 11:01 AM

It was a pretty damn good team that's for sure. They rolled 4 lines that were hard to play against.

MadLuke 02-16-2013 11:03 AM

Lot of 06 teams should have really deep roster.

The Red Line 02-16-2013 11:06 AM

Nope.

MessierII 02-16-2013 11:08 AM

No. Of recent cup winners? Yes but not near as deep as the 80's Oilers or Islanders or 70's Habs.

deytookerjaabs 02-16-2013 11:10 AM

Post lockout, probably the deepest non-vet roster, by that I mean we didn't go out and sign 6 future hall of famers, it was a bit of a perfect storm though. We allowed our first pairing to develop on a ****ty team for a few years. Sharp, Ladd, Versteeg, Hjalmarsson and Byfuglien probably all turned out better than anyone anticipated back in the day, especially Buff on D, holy ****. Campell was a no-brainer, as was Hossa. Add a couple high draft picks that didn't bust like Toews/Kane and that seals the deal.

It was really a team of players who were all in roles that didn't require them to reach their actual potential. To me, that's depth, depth isn't having the most physical third liner compared to the other third liner, it's having a pool better players commit to lesser roles.

deytookerjaabs 02-16-2013 11:13 AM

And, yeah, it's a bit silly to compare that team to teams when the league didn't exactly enforce parity.

GuineaPig 02-16-2013 11:15 AM

Not even close.

Chukcha 02-16-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fly4apuckguy (Post 59826559)
1979 Habs or 1982 Islanders or 1987 Oilers.

i'd say 80's oilers have had a collection of gems in two top lines but the whole roster wasn't deep. Probably anyone could play in bottom lines - with their two top lines that wasn't important. Too big difference between top and bottom lines.

Heyoooo* 02-16-2013 11:19 AM

To me, theyre the deepest/best post-lockout team.

Mizral 02-16-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chukcha (Post 59827167)
i'd say 80's oilers have had a collection of gems in two top lines but the whole roster wasn't deep. Probably anyone could play in bottom lines - with their two top lines that wasn't important. Too big difference between top and bottom lines.


Agreed, as awesome as the 80's Oilers teams were, they really don't hold a candle depth-wise to the 70's Habs teams. Those teams had 1st line players (on other teams) on the 3rd line, it's insane. A lot of it had to do with the drafting of players back in the day as Montreal had 'regional rights' to players born in Quebec which was most of the good forwards in the league back in those days.

Heyoooo* 02-16-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizral (Post 59827321)
Agreed, as awesome as the 80's Oilers teams were, they really don't hold a candle depth-wise to the 70's Habs teams. Those teams had 1st line players (on other teams) on the 3rd line, it's insane. A lot of it had to do with the drafting of players back in the day as Montreal had 'regional rights' to players born in Quebec which was most of the good forwards in the league back in those days.


The distribution of Cups between O6 teams suddenly makes sense.

Montreal, Toronto and Detroit (within 50 miles of Ontario) all had rights to Canadian players. Boston/MA has always put out good players and to lesser extents Chicago and NYC.

Novak Djokovic 02-16-2013 11:30 AM

Even post lockout, I'd say the Sens in 2005-06 were a better team on paper (with Hasek), but in terms of SC winners, yeah, Chicago was stacked.

Seto 02-16-2013 11:34 AM

What were the lines

ponder 02-16-2013 11:36 AM

Does anyone remember their playoff lineup? I believe it was:

Byfuglien - Toews - Kane
Brouwer - Sharp - Hossa
Ladd - Bolland - Versteeg
Eager - Madden - Kopecky
Burish

Keith - Seabrook
Campbell - Hjalmarsson
Sopel - Hendry
Boynton

Niemi
Huet


Anyways, not the deepest or best lineup ever, but arguably the deepest/best post-lockout lineup. The 06/07 Ducks were pretty insane too, though:

Forwards: Selanne, McDonald, Kunitz, Getzlaf, Perry, Penner, Pahlsson, Moen, Marchant, R Niedermayer, S Thornton, etc.
Dmen: Pronger, Niedermayer, Beauchemin, O'Donnell, and some scrubs
Goalies: Giguere and Bryzgalov

Mickey Redmond 02-16-2013 11:36 AM

The 07-08 Wings were better

ArGarBarGar 02-16-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Redmond (Post 59827957)
The 07-08 Wings were better

They had better high end talent, but I think Chicago had them on depth.

Heyoooo* 02-16-2013 11:41 AM

Depth, fellas.

That 09/10 Hawk team rolled four lines and absolutely dominated. Very similar to this years team.

Their top four on D were also stacked.

I still have flashbacks of this game. We were absolutely dominated. We had no business being in this game yet somehow we took them to OT, entirely because of Hank. If possession were tracked like in soccer or football, it probably wouldve been 90/10 Chicago.


Martini* 02-16-2013 11:42 AM

Best team post lockout AINEC, and one of the deepest teams of all time.


Haters are gonna hate. I dont blame them one bit, either.

Analyzer 02-16-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizral (Post 59827321)
Agreed, as awesome as the 80's Oilers teams were, they really don't hold a candle depth-wise to the 70's Habs teams. Those teams had 1st line players (on other teams) on the 3rd line, it's insane. A lot of it had to do with the drafting of players back in the day as Montreal had 'regional rights' to players born in Quebec which was most of the good forwards in the league back in those days.

Except the players Montreal picked were terrible.

Seto 02-16-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponder (Post 59827933)
Does anyone remember their playoff lineup? I believe it was:

Byfuglien - Toews - Kane
Brouwer - Sharp - Hossa
Ladd - Bolland - Versteeg
Eager - Madden - Kopecky
Burish

Keith - Seabrook
Campbell - Hjalmarsson
Sopel - Hendry
Boynton

Niemi
Huet

Currently there 6 top six forwards (Toews, Kane, Ladd, Versteeg, Sharp, Hossa), 3 top nine players (Brouwer, Bolland, Kopecky), 3 fourth liners (Madden*, Eager, Burish), 3 top two dmen (Keith, Seabrook, Campbell), 2 top four dmen (Hjalmarsson, Byfuglien), a starting goalie, and the 3 depth guys. Damn who put this team together

Chukcha 02-16-2013 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponder (Post 59827933)
Does anyone remember their playoff lineup? I believe it was:

Byfuglien - Toews - Kane
Brouwer - Sharp - Hossa
Ladd - Bolland - Versteeg
Eager - Madden - Kopecky
Burish

Keith - Seabrook
Campbell - Hjalmarsson
Sopel - Hendry
Boynton

Niemi
Huet

yep. their 3rd line would be a top line on many other teams.

vannzee 02-16-2013 11:51 AM

The 2002 Wings...

Centres
19 Steve Yzerman& (Captain)
8 Igor Larionov
13 Pavel Datsyuk
33 Kris Draper
91 Sergei Fedorov&
29 Jason Williams

Wingers
14 Brendan Shanahan (A. Capt.)
17 Brett Hull
18 Kirk Maltby
20 Luc Robitaille
21 Boyd Devereaux
25 Darren McCarty
96 Tomas Holmstrom
42 Sean Avery†
15 Ladislav Kohn†

Defencemen
2 Jiri Fischer
5 Nicklas Lidstrom (A. Capt.)
11 Mathieu Dandenault
24 Chris Chelios
27 Fredrik Olausson
28 Steve Duchesne
71 Jiri Slegr
32 Maxim Kuznetsov†
3 Jesse Wallin†
4 Uwe Krupp†
(played 2 playoff game)

Goaltenders
39 Dominik Hasek
34 Manny Legace
37 Jason Elliott††
(Spare did not play)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Stanley_Cup_Finals


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