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Chessarmy 02-16-2013 08:38 PM

Jacob Josefson - sent to Albany!
 
I'm very interested to see how many of you are still willing to give Josefson a chance in NJ.

Personally, I think he's been a black hole offensively and we need more. Some people have him penciled into the third line C spot when Zubrus comes back, I just don't see it. His good defense isn't going to be enough to keep him with the big club. The 4th line of Carter/Gionta/Bernier is set and shouldn't be broken up so DeBoer can't put him there.

Josefson has shown that he can't do anything noteworthy on the offensive side of the puck, so why not give Loktionov a chance and send Jake back to the AHL to play with his buddy Tedenby? I'm not saying that the Devils should give up on him completely, he may still break out offensively, but he probably needs a little more seasoning in the minors before that time comes

What do you guys think? Is it time to send Josefson to the American league or is he still worth his spot on the NHL roster?

EDIT: Checked TG's Twitter, Jo sent to Albany, Loktionov called up. Thank you god.

hlaverty06 02-16-2013 08:39 PM

I think the best he'll get is a Sammy Pahlsson tyle player

Scott04 02-16-2013 08:40 PM

The issue is... for who? The idea of sending him down might not be terrible. But if no one worth a **** is going to replace him... then what's the point?

elias026 02-16-2013 08:40 PM

he plays on the 4th line, i say that again 4th line.

why not send Barch who does nothing? at least Yayo plays on the pk

Oroku Saki* 02-16-2013 08:40 PM

Yes. Bring up Loki.

Chessarmy 02-16-2013 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott04 (Post 59859625)
The issue is... for who? The idea of sending him down might not be terrible. But if no one worth a **** is going to replace him... then what's the point?

Loktionov

hlaverty06 02-16-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59859703)
he plays on the 4th line, i say that again 4th line.

why not send Barch who does nothing? at least Yayo plays on the pk

Barch is enforcer who can actually play competent hockey. Josefson was put with Kovy and Zajac and did nothing. Maybe Yayo isn't ready. Get Loki up here.

elias026 02-16-2013 08:42 PM

this is like the Zharkov situation 2 years ago when everyone wanted him up to be our savior

Saugus 02-16-2013 08:43 PM

He does well on the PK, and his playmaking is better than people are giving him credit for. He's also excellent at carrying the puck into the zone, which is a somewhat rare and valuable skill. Yayo will be fine, sending him down isn't going to solve anything.

Scott04 02-16-2013 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chessarmy (Post 59859807)
Loktionov

But is he going to fill the exact same role? Playing 6-9 minutes a game (since I assume Loktionov won't be their first choice to fill his role on the PK)? Is it really worth it? Be it to make that swap, or to have Loktionov playing so little? Other than bringing in a new face, what will that change accomplish if the role/minutes don't change?

elias026 02-16-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlaverty06 (Post 59859937)
Barch is enforcer who can actually play competent hockey. Josefson was put with Kovy and Zajac and did nothing. Maybe Yayo isn't ready. Get Loki up here.

he plays 5 min a game. People dont want Kovy to double shift but want to send down Josefson:help:

hlaverty06 02-16-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59860311)
he plays 5 min a game. People dont want Kovy to double shift but want to send down Josefson:help:

Yes cause against a team like the Flyers with Rinaldo,Simmonds, Hartnell I feel so comfortable have ****ing Matteau-****ing Josefson-****ing Butler as a 4th line

For role-player on the 4th line give me Barch over Josefson everyday of the week and twice on sunday's. Josefson doesn't have the grit, but he isn;t making a case to be a top 6 forward.

NJDevs26 02-16-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59859703)
he plays on the 4th line, i say that again 4th line.

why not send Barch who does nothing? at least Yayo plays on the pk

Yeah because the PK's really been something to write home about.

NJDevs26 02-16-2013 08:49 PM

Loikotonov is the new Petr Vrana, another flashy guy that the fans go ga-ga over but is never going to get a chance.

elias026 02-16-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlaverty06 (Post 59860643)
Yes cause against a team like the Flyers with Rinaldo,Simmonds, Hartnell I feel so comfortable have ****ing Matteau-****ing Josefson-****ing Butler as a 4th line

For role-player on the 4th line give me Barch over Josefson everyday of the week and twice on sunday's. Josefson doesn't have the grit, but he isn;t making a case to be a top 6 forward.

we had Josefson in and no enforcer last year when we beat them in 5 games.

Then send Harrold down since we have one of Fayne/Tallinder scratched.
Josefson isnt scoring on his chances but at least hes getting chances. Barch skates up and down and barely touches the puck

elias026 02-16-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NJDevs26 (Post 59860703)
Yeah because the PK's really been something to write home about.

thats our real problem, send Yayo down or keep him up our PK is still doing terrible

hlaverty06 02-16-2013 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59860899)
we had Josefson in and no enforcer last year when we beat them in 5 games.

Then send Harrold down since we have one of Fayne/Tallinder scratched.
Josefson isnt scoring on his chances but at least hes getting chances. Barch skates up and down and barely touches the puck

Let me paint a picture for next game.

we roll Matteau-Josefson-Butler as a 4th line

Chris Neil decides he's going to take runs at people

Oh no, there's not Barch so Clarkson has to answer the bell

Clarkson sits in the box for 5 to add to the problems of our already anemic offense.

Cause I can guarantee Bernier or Carter isn't fighting Chris Neil and you'd know the Sens would do that

elias026 02-16-2013 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlaverty06 (Post 59861195)
Let me paint a picture for next game.

we roll Matteau-Josefson-Butler as a 4th line

Chris Neil decides he's going to take runs at people

Oh no, there's not Barch so Clarkson has to answer the bell

Clarkson sits in the box for 5 to add to the problems of our already anemic offense.

Cause I can guarantee Bernier or Carter isn't fighting Chris Neil and you'd know the Sens would do that

or our 4th line plays better then the other teams 4th line and we get more offensive chances and we can roll 4 lines

Nocashstyle 02-16-2013 09:00 PM

No. Just give him a better linemate than Brach. How the hell is he supposed to produce when he constantly has at least one goon on his wing?

Saugus 02-16-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59861039)
thats our real problem, send Yayo down or keep him up our PK is still doing terrible

The PK is not terrible, it's above average in the league, and it's scoring shorthanded goals too. It's not at the heights it was last season, but I certainly hope that nobody was expecting that again.

hlaverty06 02-16-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59861815)
or our 4th line plays better then the other teams 4th line and we get more offensive chances and we can roll 4 lines

The playoffs I have no issue with that.

If we're playing a team like:
Caps
Predators
Sharks

etc. I have no issue going 4 lines

elias026 02-16-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saugus (Post 59861965)
The PK is not terrible, it's above average in the league, and it's scoring shorthanded goals too. It's not at the heights it was last season, but I certainly hope that nobody was expecting that again.

we are 20th in the league:help:

DatBoyJPP 02-16-2013 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlaverty06 (Post 59860643)
Yes cause against a team like the Flyers with Rinaldo,Simmonds, Hartnell I feel so comfortable have ****ing Matteau-****ing Josefson-****ing Butler as a 4th line

For role-player on the 4th line give me Barch over Josefson everyday of the week and twice on sunday's. Josefson doesn't have the grit, but he isn;t making a case to be a top 6 forward.

There are no words for this post. Simply amazing

Devilswiss 02-16-2013 09:03 PM

I think that would be a overreaction. Josefson has played well at the start of the season so I'd be willing to give him the chance to get back on track. It's not like Loki is a proven NHL'er.

NJDevs26 02-16-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elias026 (Post 59862109)
we are 20th in the league:help:

NHL.com says we're 14th, but I think that was without tonight's updated numbers. The two games against the Isles skew the average a little but geez, at least be somewhat of a deterrent to scoring.


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