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CarknerCountry 02-17-2013 06:06 AM

Edm-ott
 
To Edm

Anderson

To Ott

Hemsky

Hemsky could be a core player for the Sens long term...Might have to throw in a mid level prospect or pick with Anderson.

Anderson gives the Oilers a legit #1 Goalie they been seeking...

T-Funk 02-17-2013 06:08 AM

Power Forward or Dman. All other proposals are useless to the Oilers.

Intense Rage 02-17-2013 06:11 AM

So the Sens deal their goalie to increase their chances at getting McKinnon. Makes a lot of sense...

zeus3007* 02-17-2013 06:16 AM

Dubnyk has been a top 10 goalie this year so far. No need to deal one of our better offensive producers for another goalie.

SenateReform 02-17-2013 07:20 AM

No from the Sens, we're not dealing our current best player.

MAK19 02-17-2013 07:22 AM

No



And Hemsky a power forward^

what the hell?

SensFactor 02-17-2013 07:33 AM

To EDM
Anderson

To OTT
Eberle


Good?

sansabri 02-17-2013 07:34 AM

say what.

MAK19 02-17-2013 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensFactor (Post 59882207)
To EDM
Anderson

To OTT
Eberle


Good?

Anderson and Zibanejad for Eberle

haterbehatin 02-17-2013 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensFactor (Post 59882207)
To EDM
Anderson

To OTT
Eberle


Good?

Spezza for Corey Potter. Good?

Qward 02-17-2013 08:04 AM

This is horrible

BonkTastic 02-17-2013 08:05 AM

There's nothing good in this thread so far...

SixthSens 02-17-2013 08:22 AM

We're not trading our #1 goaltender for a band-aid.

oilinblood 02-17-2013 08:28 AM

I am not a Hemsky fan but outside of him there is ZERO real experience on our top 6. I am also not a big Dubie fan and wanted Anderson the year COL signed him and we thought KHABI was the better option. I went and tore up the OMB when we chose Khabi instead of Anderson.

However now is not the time to do any of this. There are issues with Hemsky but mostly it stems from the fact that no one in our top 6 is BIG and none are defensive gems with top 6 offensive touch. IN other words Hemsky is yet another triangular peg when we would ra\ther have options... but he is the one with experience. If he is healthy, which he seems to be, than his skill and experience IN THIS LINEUP is EXTREMELY valuable.
Another problem with Hemsky is he is a position snob and uncomfortable playing from the left. This is desite the fact he almost ALWAYs seems to score from a shot off his wrong side or wheels around the whole zone to cut to the net from left of centre. (tonight no exception to the norm)It blows my mind how he feels uncomfortable on the left at the lineup. This is an issue because Yaks open hand/wrong side is where he is most dangerous so Hemsky is derailing that. In the history of Hemsky the only 2 wingers i have witnessed to instinctively understand Hemmers ROVER mindset are Samsonov (who would rover in response) and Jagr (who has always rovered). Its mind blowlingly annoying.

Again, not a hemsky fan at all but he is what he is. TO send him off to get a older goaltender doesnt make sense. No knock on Anderson but if THE OILERS, and their core, are going to make trades its for a Johnny Boychuk (tough minute munching RHD), and a savvy vet bottom 6 grinder with size. If they make a move for goalie DUbs is out and the next guy is handed the next decade of oiler hockey. Think of CUJO when he came over. The oilers wont pick up a goalie for just a year or two. And the ieces the Oilers would be moving would mostly be futures. Arm chair GMs can sit and think up what they want but the Oil arent likely to deal Gagner (5 years invested and looking his best and strongest FINALLY and anchoring a line that leaves him as the only defensive conscience), Hemsky or Smyth...and forget Horcoff or Belanger lol. The Oilers will be dealing from the prospect pool and picks.

I do think the Oilers will make some trades this year but it might be another month before other teams know what they are doing. Oilers SHOULD BE buyers PERIOD. Whether we are in the top 8 or out we should be looking to ppick up pieces. This is also the year where i feel we can deal our top pick to a team for an asset we like now, an asset that has shown how he can perform in the league already at the very least OR- better yet - a player that excels in a role we badly need filled.
Right now with the poise of J Schultz i would love to see J Boychuk join him on the right--even if it cost us Petry's upside in exchange.

Also i dont believe we will be trading Smyth. Ive not been a fan of him since the contract squabble of years ago but if he can quit taking bad penalties than he is a great 3rd liner who IMHO works good with Horcs.

ResilientBeast 02-17-2013 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensFactor (Post 59882207)
To EDM
Anderson

To OTT
Eberle


Good?

You made the trade worse.

Oiltankjob Fail 02-17-2013 08:33 AM

Here you want a civil Ottawa EDM proposal , when you put both teams needs it goes better:nod: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1352549

BonkTastic 02-17-2013 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilinblood (Post 59883119)
I am not a Hemsky fan but outside of him there is ZERO real experience on our top 6. I am also not a big Dubie fan and wanted Anderson the year COL signed him and we thought KHABI was the better option. I went and tore up the OMB when we chose Khabi instead of Anderson.

However now is not the time to do any of this. There are issues with Hemsky but mostly it stems from the fact that no one in our top 6 is BIG and none are defensive gems with top 6 offensive touch. IN other words Hemsky is yet another triangular peg when we would ra\ther have options... but he is the one with experience. If he is healthy, which he seems to be, than his skill and experience IN THIS LINEUP is EXTREMELY valuable.

Again, not a hemsky fan at all but he is what he is. TO send him off to get a older goaltender doesnt make sense. No knock on Anderson but if THE OILERS, and their core, are going to make trades its for a Johnny Boychuk (tough minute munching RHD), and a savvy vet bottom 6 grinder with size. If they make a move for goalie DUbs is out and the next guy is handed the next decade of oiler hockey. Think of CUJO when he came over. The oilers wont pick up a goalie for just a year or two.

I do think the Oilers will make some trades this year but it might be another month before other teams know what they are doing. Oilers SHOULD BE buyers PERIOD. Whether we are in the top 8 or out we should be looking to ppick up pieces. This is also the year where i feel we can deal our top pick to a team for an asset we like now, an asset that has shown how he can perform in the league already at the very least OR- better yet - a player that excels in a role we badly need filled.
Right now with the poise of J Schultz i would love to see J Boychuk join him on the right--even if it cost us Petry's upside in exchange.

I don't want to comment on the rest of this post, I just wanted to point out that Craig Anderson is only 31 years old. For a goalie, that's still very reasonable. Many goalies can play until their very late 30's without seeing any decline in skill or effectiveness. 31 for a goalie is like 26 or 27 for a skater.

In any case, carry on. I just wanted to address that one point.

oilinblood 02-17-2013 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BonkTastic (Post 59883279)
I don't want to comment on the rest of this post, I just wanted to point out that Craig Anderson is only 31 years old. For a goalie, that's still very reasonable. Many goalies can play until their very late 30's without seeing any decline in skill or effectiveness. 31 for a goalie is like 26 or 27 for a skater.

In any case, carry on. I just wanted to address that one point.

I wasnt saying he is over the hill. He is only 31 AND much like Roli I consider him a late bloomer so he doesnt have the miles on him that some 31 year old goalies have. I just dont think he would be the guy for the Oilers.

In my mind i keep thinking that some team this season is going to toss a top goalie and we need to be ready. It happens 3 times out of 30 teams every summer, it seems. Also despite the fact i am not a fan of Dubie i would say his issues are minimal and when he controls his rebounds and is sharp in reading plays and feels the puck he is very good. On one hand i am happy to have Dubie and I am ok with the learning curve, on the other hand i would really like a smaller goalie who was just more aggressive/battler like cujo was. Cujo wouldnt just think he had a puck and search around with his glove... he would flop on that uck like diving on a grenade to protect his troops. All out all the time.

--I am hoping FLA gets its wish and grabs luongo which ties up #1 for the decade and Markstrom has got to be moved at that point.

Analyzer 02-17-2013 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by haterbehatin (Post 59882599)
Spezza for Corey Potter. Good?

Not even close.

Dubnyk isn't even as good as Anderson. Oilers need a consistent goalie.

oilinblood 02-17-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Analyzer (Post 59883863)
Not even close.

Dubnyk isn't even as good as Anderson. Oilers need a consistent goalie.

i see alot of Anderson --via his time with the Panthers -- in current DoobieDubieDoo. Dubes though has alot less feeling for where pucks are on him it seems. Its ****** annoying

dj33habs 02-17-2013 09:09 AM

Anderson will come down to earth in the next 10 games, oilers should just keep Dubnyk , maybe get him some defence would be nice

hockeyviking 02-17-2013 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intense Rage (Post 59881471)
So the Sens deal their goalie to increase their chances at getting McKinnon. Makes a lot of sense...

it worked when we got Landeskog :)

internetdotcom 02-17-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarknerCountry (Post 59881441)
To Edm

Anderson

To Ott

Hemsky

Hemsky could be a core player for the Sens long term...Might have to throw in a mid level prospect or pick with Anderson.

Anderson gives the Oilers a legit #1 Goalie they been seeking...

Andy is the best goalie in the league this year.
With Spezz and Karlsson out especially, Andy is far and away our best player.
Hemsky is the best player on IR every year.

**** no from Ottawa.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intense Rage (Post 59881471)
So the Sens deal their goalie to increase their chances at getting McKinnon. Makes a lot of sense...

Hmm, I like it. Tank like the Oil.

Quote:

Originally Posted by haterbehatin (Post 59882599)
Spezza for Corey Potter. Good?

That's not even close to the proposal you sarcastically responded to.

Greeningfan14 02-17-2013 10:29 AM

Typical CC

18Hossa 02-17-2013 10:31 AM

:facepalm: Why would ottawa do this?


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