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Kingpin794 02-17-2013 10:41 AM

Who's the MVP?
 
Since there's only a few weeks left in the season I thought I'd ask everyone who would be on their short list (5 or 6 guys) for MVP this year.

For me my short list is (in no particular order):

Boucher or Sarault
Subban
Trocheck
Locke
Strome

And before someone calls me a homer for putting Locke on the list I will say that If I had to pick right now from my list, I'd take Boucher. But Locke should be taken into consideration.

So what would your guys' list look like?

Brock 02-17-2013 11:12 AM

Jordan Binnington is at the top of my list right now. The Attack have the best goals against in the league and he's been the main reason for that. Offensively, they can't keep up with the other big boys of the West.

After that it's Subban. I think the Red Tilson is a goalie race this year.

GangGreen 02-17-2013 11:16 AM

1 - Trocheck
2 - M Subban
3 - Cousins
4 - Strome
5 - Boucher

RayzorIsDull 02-17-2013 02:19 PM

Trocheck everybody else in a tie for 2nd.

Ward Cornell 02-19-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 59885897)
Jordan Binnington is at the top of my list right now. The Attack have the best goals against in the league and he's been the main reason for that. Offensively, they can't keep up with the other big boys of the West.

After that it's Subban. I think the Red Tilson is a goalie race this year.

I would add Franky Palazzese to the goaltending list but I have no issues with either Locke or Trochek winning the Tilson.

Brock...how about a list of "unheralded" MVP skaters that doesn't put up MVP numbers but just help their team win.
My nominees....Nathan Chiarlitti (Owen Sound) and Ben Fanelli (Kitchener)......others??

Kingpin794 02-19-2013 06:17 PM

Rethought my short list and now this is the order I have them in (Not my final list. This will be a working list for the remainder of the regular season):

1) Trocheck
2) Locke
3) Strome
4) Subban
5) Boucher

Main reason I moved Boucher down so far is because Sarnia may fall alittle bit before the season is done even with his great stats. If they can stay above 8th I'd move him back up again.

Brock 02-19-2013 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ward Cornell (Post 60028177)
I would add Franky Palazzese to the goaltending list but I have no issues with either Locke or Trochek winning the Tilson.

Brock...how about a list of "unheralded" MVP skaters that doesn't put up MVP numbers but just help their team win.
My nominees....Nathan Chiarlitti (Owen Sound) and Ben Fanelli (Kitchener)......others??

Interesting idea. I like it. Perhaps the concept for a Top 10 in the future.

Off the top of my head (on top of the two you already listed)...

Barclay Goodrow, Scott Harrington, Brandon Alderson, Ryan O'Connor, Scott Kosmachuk.

RyanHPscout 02-22-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ward Cornell (Post 60028177)
I would add Franky Palazzese to the goaltending list but I have no issues with either Locke or Trochek winning the Tilson.

Brock...how about a list of "unheralded" MVP skaters that doesn't put up MVP numbers but just help their team win.
My nominees....Nathan Chiarlitti (Owen Sound) and Ben Fanelli (Kitchener)......others??

Nathan Chiarlitti is probably the most under appreciated player in the OHL. He's on pace to shatter Owen Sound's plus/minus record and has done more for Chris Bigras as an NHL prospect than anyone may ever realize. He's a leader on and off the ice and if Owen Sound can pull off any upsets this year, it could come off his play in big game situations.

If he didn't play on the worst team in the OHL in his NHL Draft year as a defensive defenseman he likely would have got picked. But guys in his situation tend to get overlooked. I've had two different OHLers say that Nathan is the one player they're most surprised never got an NHL camp invite. Hopefully he gets one this year because he's earned it.

krazy kanuck 02-23-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 60040085)
Interesting idea. I like it. Perhaps the concept for a Top 10 in the future.

Off the top of my head (on top of the two you already listed)...

Barclay Goodrow, Scott Harrington, Brandon Alderson, Ryan O'Connor, Scott Kosmachuk.

Camara has to be on this list no? Well over a ppg and nearly .75 gpg. I would guess the Colts are ~.700 team with him, ~.500 without.

krazy kanuck 02-23-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingpin794 (Post 60037649)
Rethought my short list and now this is the order I have them in (Not my final list. This will be a working list for the remainder of the regular season):

1) Trocheck
2) Locke
3) Strome
4) Subban
5) Boucher

Main reason I moved Boucher down so far is because Sarnia may fall alittle bit before the season is done even with his great stats. If they can stay above 8th I'd move him back up again.

I think if Strome gets into the top 3 in scoring (and I think he might), he has to get very strong consideration. He's like Sakic on the 89-90/90-91 Nordiques.

Kingpin794 02-25-2013 08:53 AM

Updated Short list after this last week:

1) Trocheck
2) Strome
3) Boucher
4) Locke
5) Subban

aresknights 02-25-2013 01:52 PM

Id go with Subban as the best player on a conf leading team.

Others metnioned have been real solid as well.

I cant put any1 from London on the list.

Kingpin794 03-02-2013 10:39 PM

Update of my short list:

1) Trocheck
2) Subban
3) Boucher
4) Strome
5) Locke

Shaun Bisson 03-03-2013 11:33 AM

1) Sarault
2) Trocheck
3) Subban
4) Boucher
5) Strome

massey 03-03-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Bisson (Post 60852327)
1) Sarault
2) Trocheck
3) Subban
4) Boucher
5) Strome

Have to agree with the players above.Hard to place them in order but you done a good job

Kingpin794 03-03-2013 01:35 PM

When's the last time an OA has won MVP?

BenchedGuy 03-03-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingpin794 (Post 60857799)
When's the last time an OA has won MVP?

If I am not mistaken it was Justin Azevedo.

krazy kanuck 03-03-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchedGuy (Post 60859505)
If I am not mistaken it was Justin Azevedo.

Boy he was great that year...

dean youngblood82 03-05-2013 12:24 PM

Not sure you can place Boucher ahead of teammate Sarault. For anyone who watches the Sarnia Sting regularly, they will undoubtedly tell you that Sarault is the engine on this team.


If I were making a list:

1. Trocheck
2. Sarault
3. Subban (he's been great but its a defensive system)
4. Cousins
5. Binnington (similar situation to Subban)

chewerjones 03-05-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean youngblood82 (Post 61006747)
Not sure you can place Boucher ahead of teammate Sarault. For anyone who watches the Sarnia Sting regularly, they will undoubtedly tell you that Sarault is the engine on this team.


If I were making a list:

1. Trocheck
2. Sarault
3. Subban (he's been great but its a defensive system)
4. Cousins
5. Binnington (similar situation to Subban)

I would put Sarault at the top of the list.

IMAGINE IF SARNIA STILL HAD GALCHENYUK AND YAKUPOV. WOW

massey 03-06-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewerjones (Post 61063609)
I would put Sarault at the top of the list.

IMAGINE IF SARNIA STILL HAD GALCHENYUK AND YAKUPOV. WOW

I would forget about Yaki. As much as I like him as a player,Sting are much stronger without him. He was way too much one dimensional player with zero defensive skills and was soft on the puck after loosing it.To me,loosing Gali and Murphy on D is a bigger loss.I think the biggest loss in my eyes yet was trading Charillitti. He was the most underrated D man in the OHL. He did so much for the Sting both on the ice and off.Not Getting rid of Hottot instead of Charillitti has haunted the Sting all year.The Sting is the only team in hockey who had 2 gold metal players in the world jrs and not get 1 of them to return to play for a single game after the worlds.Throw Charillitti,Gali and Murphy on this team and wow,they would be tough to beat.

Ward Cornell 03-06-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenchedGuy (Post 60859505)
If I am not mistaken it was Justin Azevedo.

No, Justin never played an OA season.
His last season 07/08 the Rangers overagers were Mike Duco, Scott Tregunna and Matt Pepe.

dean youngblood82 03-06-2013 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chewerjones (Post 61063609)
I would put Sarault at the top of the list.

IMAGINE IF SARNIA STILL HAD GALCHENYUK AND YAKUPOV. WOW

Sarault is definitely MVP of the Sting (no questions asked) and he's definitely right there with Trocheck but I think VT's age gives him a bit of an edge. Both fantastic players.

Sarault is the ideal hockey player - skilled, works his a$$ off and emphasizes "team player". Tremendous leader.

I would be very interested to see the number of teams that were after him as a free agent. Clearly Anaheim, Toronto and Montreal all showed interest but I am sure there were many many more teams.

Whalers Fan 03-06-2013 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dean youngblood82 (Post 61088889)
Sarault is the ideal hockey player - skilled, works his a$$ off and emphasizes "team player". Tremendous leader.

That is exactly how I would describe Trocheck, too.

While Trocheck has been a tremendous addition to the Whalers, and is a big reason for the team's improved play since arriving at the trade deadline, you could argue that there are other reasons for the team's improved play, too. This hurts his case for league MVP.

1. Mitchel Heard returned from the AHL.
2. Rakell returned from the NHL.
3. Nedeljkovic took over from Mahalak as the #1 goalie.
4. Lorenz and Uvira were also acquired at the trade deadline.
5. Noesen returned from 10 game suspension.

dino200022 03-06-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whalers Fan (Post 61089123)
That is exactly how I would describe Trocheck, too.

While Trocheck has been a tremendous addition to the Whalers, and is a big reason for the team's improved play since arriving at the trade deadline, you could argue that there are other reasons for the team's improved play, too. This hurts his case for league MVP.

1. Mitchel Heard returned from the AHL.
2. Rakell returned from the NHL.
3. Nedeljkovic took over from Mahalak as the #1 goalie.
4. Lorenz and Uvira were also acquired at the trade deadline.
5. Noesen returned from 10 game suspension.

Nedeljkovic has been a friggin rock to...even with all these factors it is hard to deny what VT has brought to the Whale, he gets my nod. Cant believe no love for Boucher though, I know Sarault has been outstanding but Boucher at 60 plus almost a goal per game and no one is even close to him.


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