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ColePens 02-17-2013 03:21 PM

Cole's Plus/Minus: The Crosby and Vanek Show (w/ guest Craig Adams)
Go at it boys. I'll be in later to do my write-up.

NastyNick 02-17-2013 03:23 PM

- Drop passes
- 2nd PP of the game, Penguins quitting on the game early

+ Letang, Niskanen, Martin, Crosby

Cardboard Orpik 02-17-2013 03:24 PM

+ How we responded after Buffalo took the lead. That's what I want to see from this team.

Black Label 02-17-2013 03:24 PM

- discipline

SwordsgoneWild 02-17-2013 03:24 PM

Great game guys. But I still wanted a point dammit:cry:

MtlPenFan 02-17-2013 03:25 PM

+ When they started trailing in the third, showed the closest semblance to what "Penguins Hockey" is in a while.

Fire Shero* 02-17-2013 03:25 PM


-Bennett (it's still early but he had a handful of chances and failed on all of them)
-disco for playing Adams and Glass with our big guns
-the Malkin line is useless at even strength. They give up more goals than they score.
-we are pretty much a one-line team right now plus the power play.

roready 02-17-2013 03:25 PM

+Winning when you shouldn't win

ManInTheBox 02-17-2013 03:25 PM

Paul Martin is the new Crosby. Amazing.

eXile59 02-17-2013 03:25 PM

- Lines. We have one hole on the second line & it some how wrecks every other line by the second period.

Pancakes 02-17-2013 03:25 PM

+ Sid - Has what feels like a nothing game for him and ends up with three points. Just shows you what kind of talent he is. I don't feel he even played particularly well but he still found a way to make a few key plays.

+ Dupuis - Does not get the love he deserves despite producing and being a tremendous two-way hockey player year in and year out.

+ Fleury- Sure he gave up three but we were not particularly great defensively this game. I thought his rebound control was suspect today but he made some huge game-saving saves so overall he's a plus for me.

- Our gap control and third man high. We gave up a ton of rush chances to Buffalo this game. I know they've got a speedy team but we gave up too many odd man breaks.

- Dumb penalties. The dumb penalties nearly cost us the game. We won but those are the type of things that make you lose in the playoffs where games are tighter and you can't always count on coming back from being down. The bad penalties have to be eliminated from our game as much as possible. Bylsma needs to get on these guys about those.

bathroomSTAAL 02-17-2013 03:26 PM

+ Craig Adams proving he deserves to be in the same sentence as Vanek
+ Dupuis - is he finally a legit top 6 player?
+ MAF in the 3rd
+ Malkin-Crosby-Neal line

- Kunitz ridiculous selfish penalty.

IcedCapp 02-17-2013 03:27 PM

Told my wife after the Sabres killed the PK when the Pens were up 2-0 that the Pens were going to lose. They just went into mindless zombie cruise control. It's maddening. That said, yay!!! they won!!!

+ Sid - For someone who lost a step, is afraid of contact, and won't drive the net... he sure seems fast and eager to go to all of the dirty areas. Maybe we shouldn't judge his health by how many goals he scores in a game.

+ Martin - I really like PMart. I liked him last year. I didn't want him thrown away. I'm so happy to see him performing this way. I'm happy that he turned it around. I'm happy that he's getting a ton of credit for not running away from adversity. Not only is he more physical this year, the extra muscle seems to have helped his shot. And his promotion to the top PP unit has really helped it out.

+ Dupuis - Most underrated player in the league and by far the best value (based on contract) in the NHL. Plays hard and fast game in and game out. My desire to see him put on the 3rd line has nothing to do with disliking him. The Penguins are a better team with him around.

- Bylsma - Wanted a grittier, bigger D. Sat Despres. I hate his decision making with regards to the roster. It's just bad. Often times, it makes no sense.

- Kunitz - I know you hate Ott, and I know he really sold that penalty, but you can't be retaliating like that in a close game.

+ PK - other than the 5-on-3, which they almost killed, they really shut down the Buffalo PP.

Weird game otherwise, forgetting some specifics.

NastyNick 02-17-2013 03:27 PM

I feel like the Penguins played 12 minutes of hockey and beat the Sabres.. whats that say about Buffalo?

Penguins need a kick in the pants though. Maybe Philly at home will do it

MtlPenFan 02-17-2013 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by SwordsgoneWild (Post 59901627)
Great game guys. But I still wanted a point dammit:cry:

That was a seeing eye shot at the end. Nothing to be done there but I can tell you now after watching for a couple of games that your team is MUCH better than it's record.

WarriorScholar 02-17-2013 03:27 PM

Malkin the next Adam Oates

domaug* 02-17-2013 03:28 PM



Fire Shero* 02-17-2013 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by eXile59 (Post 59901673)
- Lines. We have one hole on the second line & it some how wrecks every other line by the second period.

Definitely, it's going to be incredibly frustrating until Shero can acquire a good winger, if he can. It really is causing so many problems and I hope we don't have to wait until the deadline.

Merc29 02-17-2013 03:28 PM

A big + to fleury! It's not how many saves you make but when you make them, and fleury came up huge when it was needed

Ugene Malkin 02-17-2013 03:28 PM

1st & 3rd periods for everyone

-Pens 2nd periods

Omnomnomnom 02-17-2013 03:29 PM

+ Good shots from the points. Look what happens when you get the puck to the net from the point...

billybudd 02-17-2013 03:29 PM

+crosby...no explanation needed

+Martin...been glad that he returned to form, but the strange thing is, he never shot like that the last time he was in form. Just have nothing but good things to say about how he's played this year

+Dupuis...he needed to win about 5 battles to keep the puck in on his goal. Great to see him rewarded for all that work.

-Fleury...the number of rebounds he kicked into the high slot in this one game is about the same as I'd expect from a $5 million goalie in an entire month.

-Sutter...I never thought I'd say this about a Sutter, but this guy needs to start working a lot harder. He's not battling. He's playing like Jan Hrdina out there. "I'm standing in the right place...that's all there is to this sport right? Right?" He should be watching how hard the guys on the Sid line fight for the puck and body position.

Gumbercules 02-17-2013 03:29 PM

Huge plus for Dupuis. We are all aware of his offensive limitations, but I love this guy. Great on the PK, makes safe and simple plays, gets pucks on net and goes to the net, and rarely takes stupid penalties even though he manages to play solid D.

gogasson 02-17-2013 03:29 PM

We make fun of Dupers all the time with his stone hands, but its games like these where he's a gift. Loads of grit, lots of hustle, and two goals to boot.

THe majority of my plusses go to Dupers.

Whatever is left goes to Fleury and Sid.

bradshaw06 02-17-2013 03:29 PM

+1st place in the atlantic/conference. lets keep it.

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