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Trembz420 02-17-2013 03:32 PM

2 Mtl Trades (NJD, TB)
 
Mtl - Gionta, Moen & NJ's choice of our second rounders come draft day (CGY,NSH,Ours)

NJD - Clarkson

OR

MTL - Gionta

NJD - Volchenkov + 3rd or 4th Round pick


Other scenario

Mtl - Emelin + Morgan Ellis + Travis Moen

TB - Matthew Carle, 2nd

Thoughts?

Devilsfan92 02-17-2013 03:34 PM

No to the Clarkson one.

Remove the pick from the Volchenkov one and I'd accept.

The Dangley One 02-17-2013 03:35 PM

Lol isn't ohlunds career over

The YzerJesus 02-17-2013 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dangley One (Post 59906363)
Lol isn't ohlunds career over

No :sarcasm:

We'll do it! :nod:

Captain Smurf 02-17-2013 03:38 PM

NJ isn't trading Clarkson. Montreal isn't trading Gio for Volch. Ohlund hasn't played in 2 years

Lebowski 02-17-2013 03:38 PM

You're absolutely nuts if you think the Devils trade Clarkson for that.

Not interested in Volchenkov, and while he is a decent player, we need more talent on the wings than on defense right now, which is what Gionta is here for.

I wouldn't swap Diaz for Ohlund at all. That would be a stupid move.

Seto 02-17-2013 03:39 PM

New Jersey is not trading roster players anytime soon.

Hugo Sham 02-17-2013 03:40 PM

why are we trading gionta for a defensive dman?
why are we trading a dman who is 9th in pts in NHL for Ohlund?
:shakehead

Trembz420 02-17-2013 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Smurf (Post 59906531)
NJ isn't trading Clarkson. Montreal isn't trading Gio for Volch. Ohlund hasn't played in 2 years

WOW, i really had not realized its been that long since Ohlund has played..
.. regarding Gio, aside from the leadership role he reportedly plays in the locker room, I see him on the decline.. He's become pretty predictable when he gains the offensive zone with the puck (Shooting from absolutely any and everywhere), yes he goes to the net some times but we have Bourque playing on the same line whos been doing that job quite well... Im not bashing Gio in any way, but just feel it wouldnt be such a terrible idea to part ways while we can still get a decent return Volchenkov.. Who can clear the net and is a big stay at home Dman there we can surely use

Trembz420 02-17-2013 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHill Seeker (Post 59906667)
why are we trading gionta for a defensive dman?
why are we trading a dman who is 9th in pts in NHL for Ohlund?
:shakehead

Disregard the Ohlund trade, i wasnt aware it had been that long since he played

Captain Smurf 02-17-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trembz420 (Post 59906825)
WOW, i really had not realized its been that long since Ohlund has played..
.. regarding Gio, aside from the leadership role he reportedly plays in the locker room, I see him on the decline.. He's become pretty predictable when he gains the offensive zone with the puck (Shooting from absolutely any and everywhere), yes he goes to the net some times but we have Bourque playing on the same line whos been doing that job quite well... Im not bashing Gio in any way, but just feel it wouldnt be such a terrible idea to part ways while we can still get a decent return Volchenkov.. Who can clear the net and is a big stay at home Dman there we can surely use

Volch is on the decline as well.

Also, why are we trying to add ANOTHER offensive d-man. We have Markov, Subban, Diaz, Kaberle and Weber in the big club.

Trembz420 02-17-2013 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Smurf (Post 59907191)
Volch is on the decline as well.

Possible, but given the current situation of the Habs, I think we can use a rugged stay at home Dman more than what Gionta brings on the ice ..

Zippy316 02-17-2013 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trembz420 (Post 59906119)
Mtl - Gionta, Moen & NJ's choice of our second rounders come draft day (CGY,NSH,Ours)

NJD - Clarkson

OR

MTL - Gionta

NJD - Volchenkov + 3rd or 4th Round pick


Other scenario

Mtl - Emelin + Morgan Ellis + Travis Moen

TB - Matthew Carle, 2nd

Thoughts?

The Clarkson trade is probably fair value in a vaccuum, but the Devils wouldn't do it. Nothing any team would give up would entice the Devils right now to trade him.

I personally wouldn't mind Gionta for Volchenkov, I'd do that every day of the week. I don't think we'd be giving up any more picks though. We don't have our 3rd, 5th or 7th this year and we don't have our fourth next year. We also have to give up a 1st either this year or next.

Jacko95 02-17-2013 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trembz420 (Post 59906119)
Mtl - Gionta, Moen & NJ's choice of our second rounders come draft day (CGY,NSH,Ours)

NJD - Clarkson

OR

MTL - Gionta

NJD - Volchenkov + 3rd or 4th Round pick


Other scenario

Mtl - Emelin + Morgan Ellis + Travis Moen

TB - Matthew Carle, 2nd


Thoughts?


It's an interesting offer, but it definitly needs some adjustemend.
I think Morgan Ellis could be a good prospect for Tampa, but I can't see a good fit for Moen in Tampa.
And can you actually give me some insight on Emelin, he is only in his second year. Is he a TWD or a defensive D ?

Just by comparing stats, Emelin seems like a second pairing DD, while we give up a #2 D, which plays the most minutes on our team, while Emelin only plays the 5th most on yours.

My proposal (without knowing the insight on Emelin):

Emelin+Ellis for Matt Carle straight up.

Prairie Habs 02-17-2013 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacko95 (Post 59909579)
It's an interesting offer, but it definitly needs some adjustemend.
I think Morgan Ellis could be a good prospect for Tampa, but I can't see a good fit for Moen in Tampa.
And can you actually give me some insight on Emelin, he is only in his second year. Is he a TWD or a defensive D ?

Just by comparing stats, Emelin seems like a second pairing DD, while we give up a #2 D, which plays the most minutes on our team, while Emelin only plays the 5th most on yours.

My proposal (without knowing the insight on Emelin):

Emelin+Ellis for Matt Carle straight up.

You should probably just disregard that proposal. Montreal is in no position to trade a defensive D for another offensive one or to add another 5M+ contract without moving one out.

Captain Smurf 02-17-2013 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prairie Habs (Post 59911023)
You should probably just disregard that proposal. Montreal is in no position to trade a defensive D for another offensive one or to add another 5M+ contract without moving one out.

2nded. Montreal has a plethora of offensive d-men, but really need the physical game Emelin brings.

hlaverty06 02-17-2013 07:11 PM

I'd do Volch+pick for Gio one in a heartbeat


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