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Axl Rhoadz* 02-18-2013 10:01 AM

How many points will it take to make the playoffs?
 
Just trying to figure out at what point the Kings will need to start their amazing, hot streak in order to squeak into the playoffs.

damacles1156 02-18-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Axl Rhoadz (Post 59950777)
Just trying to figure out at what point the Kings will need to start their amazing, hot streak in order to squeak into the playoffs.


47 in the East in 94-95
42 in the West in 94-95

So say 44 to 46.

If the Kings continue 500. hockey, at some point in March or April.

The Kings will have to go about 8 to 10 games of not losing in regulation. Just to get into a playoff spot.

That's (if) the Bottom of the West doesn't fallout.

I know people are freaking out, but to be honest. The team that makes the 7th or 8th spot in ether conference...Will largely be a 500. Hockey team.

With the way OT losses are handled now, and 3 point games. Only about Five or six teams per conference are actually winning teams.

Sydor25 02-18-2013 10:42 AM

I think 52-53 points is a safe bet to make the playoffs as the 8th seed. The amount of 3 points games in the West is going to make it very hard to pass the 5 teams that are ahead of the Kings right now.

To get to 53 points, the Kings need to go 18-12-5.

damacles1156 02-18-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sydor25 (Post 59952249)
I think 52-53 points is a safe bet to make the playoffs as the 8th seed. The amount of 3 points games in the West is going to make it very hard to pass the 5 teams that are ahead of the Kings right now.

To get to 53 points, the Kings need to go 18-12-5.


Pretty much a 500. record. 18 and 17

The Kings do need to start pushing these games that have bad starts to at least OT.

Shootmaster_44 02-18-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by damacles1156 (Post 59952375)
Pretty much a 500. record. 18 and 17

The Kings do need to start pushing these games that have bad starts to at least OT.

That would be a start, but it would be better if the Kings were to win these in regulation.

I've been trying to figure out the Kings, unlike most teams they start sluggish and finish great, whereas most teams are the other way around. If they don't win the Alberta swing, I still contend that Sutter should have the boys out to the farm in Viking, cleaning out the stalls.

KingsFan7824 02-18-2013 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by damacles1156 (Post 59952375)
Pretty much a 500. record. 18 and 17

The Kings do need to start pushing these games that have bad starts to at least OT.

Don't forget the bad endings too. Already cost the Kings at least 2 points.

The Kings had 95 points in 82 games last year. This season, that would work out to about 55-56 points.

DaAnimal 02-18-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydor25 (Post 59952249)
I think 52-53 points is a safe bet to make the playoffs as the 8th seed. The amount of 3 points games in the West is going to make it very hard to pass the 5 teams that are ahead of the Kings right now.

To get to 53 points, the Kings need to go 18-12-5.

That's a good estimate. I'd like to go with that as well.

kingsfan 02-18-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by damacles1156 (Post 59951871)
47 in the East in 94-95
42 in the West in 94-95

So say 44 to 46.

People keep posting this and it's faulty logic. There were no three-point games back then, so naturally the amount to get in was lower. A pro-rated amount from last year would seem more likely to be accurate.

Muzzinga 02-18-2013 12:39 PM

56 points will almost certainly get you the 8th seed

HansH 02-18-2013 12:55 PM

This is kind of my thing -- some of you may have noticed that starting last year I started posting in the PGTs about what the current projected points for the 8th place spot was, and what record the Kings would need to get there. I've done it for some of the games this year as well.

For these projections, take all teams' points percentage for their games played, and multiply that percentage by the 96 points maximum represented by the complete 48-game season. At this very moment, in the Western Conference, there is projected to be a five-way tie for 7th through 11th at 51 points. Interestingly enough, in the East, there is projected to be a tie for 8th and 9th, also at 51 points each. So, 51 points is the bubble, 52 to get "safely" in.

The Kings have 35 games left, and have 12 points total -- 35 games to get 40 points means they need a record of 20-15 to get in as the #7 seed, and a record of 19-15-1 leaves them at the mercy of tiebreakers.

A record of 20-15 is a percentage of .571 -- their current pace is one of .462.

Ron 02-18-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kingsfan (Post 59957635)
People keep posting this and it's faulty logic. There were no three-point games back then, so naturally the amount to get in was lower. A pro-rated amount from last year would seem more likely to be accurate.

Just the point I was going to make. 3-point games makes this analysis almost impossible...given the shortened season, 3-point games become even more significant than in a regular season, almost in an exponential manner.

I hate the system, really a "bush" thing to give inferior teams a shot. Might as well call the winner of the All-Star game whose league its in home-field advantage in the World Series...now that's bush.

Ron 02-18-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sw1tch (Post 59958589)
56 points will almost certainly get you the 8th seed

Maybe, but you are forgetting that teams do not play in the other conference this season. They only play within conference, and the likelihood of 3-point games is going to inflate any number of points that a team may need to get in the playoffs this season.

Also, the WCF is definitely stronger than it was last season. Which may lead to even more 3-point games.

Better start concentrating on regulation or overtime wins at this point.

damacles1156 02-18-2013 02:53 PM

Getting at least 7 points out of the remaining 10 for February; would really help the Kings out.

March is pretty brutal.

fuzzerson 02-18-2013 08:04 PM

Assuming the same ppg that got the Kings 8th place last year...

.................Games .....Pts......Pts Per Game
2012...........82.......... 95.......1.16
2013...........48...........56.......1.16

kingsholygrail 02-18-2013 09:29 PM

More than the #9 team.

HansH 02-19-2013 11:41 PM

After games of 2/19/13:

Target remains 52 points for clear 8th. Record needed is now 19-15.

Hatter 02-20-2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HansH (Post 60079523)
After games of 2/19/13:

Target remains 52 points for clear 8th. Record needed is now 19-15.



oh well. was good while it lasted

KingsKnight 02-20-2013 01:47 AM

3 wins out of 4, or 6 points out of a possible 8 in the last three games is looking pretty good to me after a rough start. OP was asking when we need to start our amazing hot streak, looks like we might have already started. The one loss was against the hottest team in the last 6 years (or more), and by one goal. I'm hoping this means we're actually turning things around.

Chazz Reinhold 02-20-2013 08:49 AM

This thread is about how many points it will take to make the playoffs this year. Let's keep that in mind.

northernKing 02-20-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sydor25 (Post 59952249)
I think 52-53 points is a safe bet to make the playoffs as the 8th seed. The amount of 3 points games in the West is going to make it very hard to pass the 5 teams that are ahead of the Kings right now.

To get to 53 points, the Kings need to go 18-12-5.

Ya I agree 53/54 should do the trick. At the 1/3 mark of the season teams just over .500 are holding down the last playoff spot in west

Kings4thecup 02-20-2013 01:18 PM

According to Sportsclubstats, 53 points is a 50/50 chance.

http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/W...osAngeles.html

no name 02-20-2013 08:31 PM

Boy, the difference between the west and east is night and day. There is one bad team in the west. There is 5 teams in the east that the rest of the league gets healthy on.

KingsKnight 02-20-2013 11:55 PM

Update: 4 wins out of 5, or 8 points out of a possible 10. Looking good right now, especially considering this last one was back-to-back. Seems like the team is slowly rounding into form. Again, let's hope they can keep it up.

DryIslandBartender 02-21-2013 12:40 AM

Heard on the broadcast that of the next 16 games, 13 are at Staples Center. That should help with points and expect us to climb pretty fast and get back into the thick of things.

HansH 02-21-2013 08:32 AM

After games of 2/20/13:

Target remains 52 points for clear 8th. Record needed is now 18-15.


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