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Ail 02-19-2013 01:58 PM

Trade Rumor Thread IV - "What's all the roar over RoR?"
 
Next title should be "what's all the roar over RoR?"

Panfork 02-19-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 60026849)
Douglas Murray
Adrian Aucoin
Jordan Leopold (ew)
Mike Komisarek (if the Leafs eat some of his contract)
JM Liles (see above for Komisarek)
Ladislav Smid
Ryan Whitney (ew)
Mark Fistric
Lubo Visnovsky
Mark Streit
Sergei Gonchar

I'm just curious, why ew over Leopold?

NY Lito 02-19-2013 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 60026849)
Douglas Murray
Adrian Aucoin
Jordan Leopold (ew)
Mike Komisarek (if the Leafs eat some of his contract)
JM Liles (see above for Komisarek)
Ladislav Smid
Ryan Whitney (ew)
Mark Fistric
Lubo Visnovsky
Mark Streit
Sergei Gonchar

I'd take Smid or Murray for sure.

Streit would be perfect but no chance that happens.

NYR Viper 02-19-2013 02:01 PM

Trade Rumor Thread IV - "What's all the roar over RoR?"
 
Continue in here!

No Flaming!

:cheers:

JeffMangum 02-19-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 60026679)
Didn't realize he had (2) more years after this one.

He blocks shots, is a pain in the ass to play against, has decent hands.

Slow-footed though for sure. He is better than Bickel. About on par with Eminger.



sweet hands bro

NYR Viper 02-19-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Panfork (Post 60027033)
I'm just curious, why ew over Leopold?

He has been GOD AWFUL in Buffalo this season.

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Originally Posted by NY Lito (Post 60027045)
I'd take Smid or Murray for sure.

Streit would be perfect but no chance that happens.

My wish-list would be:

Streit
Smid
Murray

Streit is a legit top-4 PPQB

Panfork 02-19-2013 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zenith (Post 60027091)


sweet hands bro

I know you're joking, but that was totally all on Sedin.

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 60027193)
He has been GOD AWFUL in Buffalo this season.

Oh, that's a shame. From what I saw of him last year (not very much) he looked pretty good. I think I've only watched 1 Buffalo game this year.

Tawnos 02-19-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NY Lito (Post 60026693)
To stray away from all the ROR talk for a moment...

Can anyone think of some cheap d-men we could pick up at the deadline to shore up the bottom pairing?

Depends on what side we're looking for.

The following are listed at RD in the last issue of THN and are UFAs this year.

Marek Zidlicky
Mark Streit
Lubomir Visnovsky
Francois Boullion
Sergei Gonchar
Mike Lundin
Mike Kostka
Mike Mottau
Tyson Strachan
John Erskine
Ron Hainsey
Grant Clitsome
Adrian Aucoin
Ian White
Jeff Woywitka
Anton Babchuk
Ryan O'Byrne
Drew Bagnall
Andrew Alberts
Davis Drewiskie

NYR Viper 02-19-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Panfork (Post 60027209)
I know you're joking, but that was totally all on Sedin.



Oh, that's a shame. From what I saw of him last year (not very much) he looked pretty good. I think I've only watched 1 Buffalo game this year.

Yeah, the Buffalo fans are actually celebrating him being scratched. And their defense as a whole hasn't been stellar.

RangerBoy 02-19-2013 02:21 PM

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Strange: The Avalanche haven't told GMs what the price is for Ryan O'Reilly. They're saying: Make an offer. Most GMs are puzzled by this.
https://twitter.com/simmonssteve/sta...61631329755136

NY Lito 02-19-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 60028159)

That is pretty odd.

Can anyone inform me what happens if Colorado doesn't move him and he refuses to sign? I'm not sure of what happens to their/his rights, etc...

Also shows what Sather and Gorton think of RoR if they (allegedly) offered MDZ right off the bat. Must value him pretty highly.

Trxjw 02-19-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 60028159)

Huh. I do the same thing when I have no idea how to value someone in fantasy leagues. :laugh:

Tawnos 02-19-2013 02:23 PM

I'm not sure what's puzzling about that. Interest is probably pretty high and Sherman wants to cull it down to the teams with the best opening offers.

SnowblindNYR 02-19-2013 02:25 PM

So it was the Rangers that brought up DZ's name and not the Avs? Surprised. I wouldn't think that the Rangers would throw up DZ right away, would think they'd try Stralman first.

Brian Boyle 02-19-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 60028159)

Yeah, OK Simmons. GMs talk to you. Sure.

NYR Viper 02-19-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowblindNYR (Post 60028411)
So it was the Rangers that brought up DZ's name and not the Avs? Surprised. I wouldn't think that the Rangers would throw up DZ right away, would think they'd try Stralman first.

Teams know what a players value is. You have to realize GM's don't like to waste eachothers time.

RangerBoy 02-19-2013 02:32 PM

O'Reilly can't be a group III until he plays 7 accrued seasons or is 27. He has 3 accrued seasons. O'Reilly won't be getting an accrued season this season. The NHL hasn't announced what number accounts for an accrued season this season. Say its 28 games played. He won't be traded in time to play 28 regular season games. O'Reilly is 22. He could have been a group III at 25 if didn't hold out this year and met the accrued games requirement.

Fitzy 02-19-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 60028537)
Teams know what a players value is. You have to realize GM's don't like to waste eachothers time.

Notably, we offered Rozsvial+Zherdev for Dany Heatley. And we decided not to bring back Zherdev at that salary.

Brian Boyle 02-19-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 60028769)
O'Reilly can't be a group III until he plays 7 accrued seasons or is 27. He has 3 accrued seasons. O'Reilly won't be getting an accrued season this season. The NHL hasn't announced what number accounts for an accrued season this season. Say its 28 games played. He won't be traded in time to play 28 regular season games. O'Reilly is 22. He could have been a group III at 25 if didn't hold out this year and met the accrued games requirement.

I think it's still within reach. 24 games would be same proportion for a 48 game season. It just has to be games on the roster, too, not games actually played.

SnowblindNYR 02-19-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 60028537)
Teams know what a players value is. You have to realize GM's don't like to waste eachothers time.

Well considering what the Jackets were asking for last year and what they ended up getting, why is it such to believe teams ask for/offer too high/too low?

NYR Viper 02-19-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowblindNYR (Post 60029285)
Well considering what the Jackets were asking for last year and what they ended up getting, why is it such to believe teams ask for/offer too high/too low?

Nash had a NMC. I think the Rangers may have known Nash wanted to be a Ranger so they were in a bit more control than they are now.

I think they know O'Reilly's value and probably know what other teams are offering. Hence, MDZ.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 02-19-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowblindNYR (Post 60029285)
Well considering what the Jackets were asking for last year and what they ended up getting, why is it such to believe teams ask for/offer too high/too low?

Because the Nash situation and the O'Reilly situation are not the same.

NYR Viper 02-19-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Antithesis (Post 60028853)
Notably, we offered Rozsvial+Zherdev for Dany Heatley. And we decided not to bring back Zherdev at that salary.

I am bit overtired today and I am most likely just missing it, but I am not following :(

nyr2k2 02-19-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NY Lito (Post 60028261)
Can anyone inform me what happens if Colorado doesn't move him and he refuses to sign? I'm not sure of what happens to their/his rights, etc...

Colorado will just retain his rights indefinitely. His NHL choices are either sign with Colorado or hope for a trade.

RGY 02-19-2013 02:47 PM

My picks would have to be either Streit or Visnovksy.


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