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flameaholic 02-19-2013 10:20 PM

Flames - Don't reload...rebuild
 
In response to the 'reload' thread. Writing's on the wall. Think about all the assets we can get for Iginla.. Kiprusoff.. Tanguay.. Cammalleri.. Glencross.. Stempniak.. Giordano.. Bouwmeester.. Wideman.. etc.

Basically anyone 30 and over should be moved for prospects and/or picks. Go Edmonton Oilers style for the next two or three years, draft MacKinnon/Jones and McDavid, then prepare to hoist :stanley:

WhiteLight* 02-19-2013 10:22 PM

:handclap::handclap::handclap:

Refreshing to see this thread from a Flames fan

:handclap::handclap::handclap:

No longer in denial

flameaholic 02-19-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 60072619)
Refreshing to see this thread from a Flames fan


No longer in denial

I've had enough of this crap! If we don't rebuild this year, I'm going to be pissed. :madfire:

tmurfin 02-19-2013 10:26 PM

You're going to be pissed

mrdonkey 02-19-2013 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flameaholic (Post 60072371)
In response to the 'reload' thread. Writing's on the wall. Think about all the assets we can get for Iginla.. Kiprusoff.. Tanguay.. Cammalleri.. Glencross.. Stempniak.. Giordano.. Bouwmeester.. Wideman.. etc.

Basically anyone 30 and over should be moved for prospects and/or picks. Go Edmonton Oilers style for the next two or three years, draft MacKinnon/Jones and McDavid, then prepare to hoist :stanley:

I hate to break it to you, but it's going to take a lot longer than two or three years to even get back to the playoffs, let alone the Cup.

A lot longer.

Sparky93 02-19-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrdonkey (Post 60076699)
I hate to break it to you, but it's going to take a lot longer than two or three years to even get back to the playoffs, let alone the Cup.

A lot longer.

It'll be a lot quicker than adding and subtracting players to the same, aging core, year, after year!

Devonator 02-19-2013 11:40 PM

I agree...it is refreshing to see a Flame fan that is realistic.....get what you can for the vets....get a nice stud from a high draft pick this year....and see what you can get for Iggy and Kipper....you could turn it around in 2-3 years .......

JurassicTunga 02-19-2013 11:42 PM

I agree at this point.

Time for a change.

Bourne Endeavor 02-19-2013 11:43 PM

Name your demands for Tanguay or Cammalleri (keeping some salary)

LickTheEnvelope 02-19-2013 11:50 PM

Need a change that's for sure.

I'd probably go somewhere in-between...

If I was Feaster I would try to target one VERY good young player and throw a Glencross or a Giordano or both out there to get that player, ideally a center... maybe a d-man depending.

Then rack in a top 5-10 pick this year and take another good forward. Build around those 2 and Baertschi. Sign 1 more offensive threat.

Ya I think the Flames could pull a Flyers quick turn around.

Benjamin 02-19-2013 11:50 PM

Giordano seems like a keeper to me.

You seem smarter than Feaster btw.

TheHudlinator 02-19-2013 11:53 PM

If we rebuild we will most likely keep several key vets to take some pressure off the youth so
Trading Block:
Giordano
Iginla
Kipper
Stempniak
(all bottom 6 players)

Can be had but would most likely stay:
Jaybo
Cammy
Tanguay
Glencross
Wideman

The Future
Brodie
Sven
Backlund
Hudler
Cervenka

nik- 02-19-2013 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MandyAlwaysKnows (Post 60072619)
:handclap::handclap::handclap:

Refreshing to see this thread from a Flames fan

:handclap::handclap::handclap:

No longer in denial

How does the fanbase knowing that management doesn't want to rebuild mean the fans are in denial? We just know what ownerships mandate is, as ****** as it is.

Fans aren't management, contrary to what people seem to think here.

PocketNines 02-20-2013 12:00 AM

Cole + Rattie for Giordano

Oiltankjob Fail 02-20-2013 12:15 AM

Alot of Flame players get to pick where they are traded to hard times ahead for Flames to get quality back on trades.

flameaholic 02-20-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketNines (Post 60080921)
Cole + Rattie for Giordano

You'll probably need to add a 1st, but these are exactly the type of trades we need to be making. We could also get a similar return for Iggy/Kipper/J-Bo/Cammy etc.

We need to get young, and fast. The sooner we rebuild, the sooner we'll get back to where we need to be.

TheHudlinator 02-20-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oiltankjob 4 93 64 (Post 60081649)
Alot of Flame players get to pick where they are traded to hard times ahead for Flames to get quality back on trades.

Not really if the players are told that Calgary is going to want to rebuild if they don't want to spend the next 3+ years of their careers losing they will accept a trade.

burgess1978 02-20-2013 12:17 AM

Babchuk to the Sens? We might wait a few weeks and see how Gryba goes, but we need another RH shot.

TheHudlinator 02-20-2013 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgess1978 (Post 60081803)
Babchuk to the Sens? We might wait a few weeks and see how Gryba goes, but we need another RH shot.

5th round pick?

TheGaudfather 02-20-2013 12:24 AM

Hope we keep Cervenka, Wideman, Hudler, Baertschi, Brodie.

burgess1978 02-20-2013 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHudlinator (Post 60081841)
5th round pick?

Done. What's the deal with his NTC?

TheHudlinator 02-20-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgess1978 (Post 60082561)
Done. What's the deal with his NTC?

Expires at the deadline so he can be moved. I would imagine he waives now as he isn't playing here.

stlblues9 02-20-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flameaholic (Post 60081775)
You'll probably need to add a 1st, but these are exactly the type of trades we need to be making. We could also get a similar return for Iggy/Kipper/J-Bo/Cammy etc.

We need to get young, and fast. The sooner we rebuild, the sooner we'll get back to where we need to be.

Maybe Cole + 1st + lesser prospect, but not Cole + Rattie + 1st. That's just way too much imo.

TheHudlinator 02-20-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlblues9 (Post 60082617)
Maybe Cole + 1st + lesser prospect, but not Cole + Rattie + 1st. That's just way too much imo.

Cole + Rattie + Lehtera for Gio + Nemisz?

DL44 02-20-2013 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgess1978 (Post 60082561)
Done. What's the deal with his NTC?

Other than it being hilarious he actually got one?


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