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newfy 02-19-2013 11:36 PM

top middleweights
 
We always talk about the absolute toughest guys in the league but who are the top middleweights going right now. Just to set a standard so that we dont just end up bickering about what a middlweight is I'm talking about guys 6' maybe 6'1 at the biggest.

For me there is a clear top 3 with me leaning towards Prust as the best based on activity and results. Mike Brown and Tootoo are pretty close for me at 2 and 3. I would say Brown has had some more clear wins but I think Tootoo has a decent edge in quality of competition. Gun to my head I'll pick Tootoo because I think if those 2 fight his style would work against Brown better than Browns on Tootoo.

Those are my clear top 3, after that I'm not really sure who I would have in a top 5 or 10.

Tanner Glass is in there somewhere.

MichiganWolverines 02-19-2013 11:53 PM

I'm not sure if you could label these players as middleweights (some people might consider them light-heavyweights), but I think Chris Neil, Eric Boulton and Arron Asham can be mentioned.

RealisticLeaf55 02-20-2013 12:07 AM

Mikey Brown for sure.:yo:

newfy 02-20-2013 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MichiganWolverines (Post 60075763)
I'm not sure if you could label these players as middleweights (some people might consider them light-heavyweights), but I think Chris Neil, Eric Boulton and Arron Asham can be mentioned.

Those are kinda the guys I was trying to eliminate from contention by limiting it a bit. I figured those guys would just cause bickering over the term.

JimLaheyprobert 02-20-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MichiganWolverines (Post 60075763)
I'm not sure if you could label these players as middleweights (some people might consider them light-heavyweights), but I think Chris Neil, Eric Boulton and Arron Asham can be mentioned.

chris neil and prust are more light weights, brown beat aaron asham pretty badly. Mike brown and tootoo are at the top of my list, i cant remember prusts height and weight on the top of my head but i think hes more of a light heavyweight, if hes not then hes up there to.

bud12 02-20-2013 12:17 PM

Prust is 6"0 and 195lbs. People qualify him as a light-heavy because he fights some of them but for me, he's a middleweight. Neil, Boulton are light-heavy. If Haley was up, it would be the champ but right now, its probably Prust

newfy 02-20-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bud12 (Post 60095893)
Prust is 6"0 and 195lbs. People qualify him as a light-heavy because he fights some of them but for me, he's a middleweight. Neil, Boulton are light-heavy. If Haley was up, it would be the champ but right now, its probably Prust

Agree. He gets called a light heavyweight but its just because hes so good at what he does. 6 feet and less than 200 you have to count him as a middleweight though

stingo 02-20-2013 02:15 PM

Ryan Reaves?

bud12 02-20-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stingo (Post 60102547)
Ryan Reaves?

heavyweight

MichiganWolverines 02-20-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bud12 (Post 60113529)
heavyweight

If Brett Gallant was on the New York Islanders, he would be the best middleweight in the NHL by a far margin.

He's around 6 feet tall and 180 pounds, but he can handle some of the heavyweights in the NHL.

bud12 02-20-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MichiganWolverines (Post 60115241)
If Brett Gallant was on the New York Islanders, he would be the best middleweight in the NHL by a far margin.

He's around 6 feet tall and 180 pounds, but he can handle some of the heavyweights in the NHL.

Gallant considere himself as a light-heavyweight even if he's only 180lbs. This is why is fightcards is full of heavy. He don't waste is time with middle. Definetly the best pound for pound in the Ahl and in the NHl. The guy is a beast.

Montreal Shadow 02-20-2013 06:43 PM

Prust is listed at 6'2'' this season and 6'1'' for as long as I can remember.

As for this thread, Chris Neil is the best middleweight. If we go by Heavy, Middle and Light that is.

bud12 02-20-2013 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Montreal Shadow (Post 60119367)
Prust is listed at 6'2'' this season and 6'1'' for as long as I can remember.

As for this thread, Chris Neil is the best middleweight. If we go by Heavy, Middle and Light that is.

majority of peoples use the term light-heavyweight

struckbyaparkedcar 02-20-2013 07:59 PM

Prust is a middleweight with a really good grapple game, allowing him to hold his own against much bigger and stronger players. He'll surprise when fighting above his weight class, but also loses a fair amount of scraps within his weight class when he isn't focusing as much on defense. Asham definitely qualifies as a middleweight, also a great technical fighter. Neil and Boulton are light heavies.

Honestly, there's not enough Kaleta in this thread. He'd fight more if he wasn't made of glass, but when he's healthy, he's capable of beating anyone within his weight class.

ForsbergForever 02-21-2013 12:13 AM

How about Brad Staubitz and Ryan White?

Beerz 02-21-2013 12:55 AM

If McCormick is considered light heavyweight or middleweight... I'd throw his hat in the ring.

bud12 02-21-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ForsbergForever (Post 60145179)
How about Brad Staubitz and Ryan White?

Staubitz is a light-heavy and White is a no

WildcatMapleLeafs28 02-21-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bud12 (Post 60117021)
Gallant considere himself as a light-heavyweight even if he's only 180lbs. This is why is fightcards is full of heavy. He don't waste is time with middle. Definetly the best pound for pound in the Ahl and in the NHl. The guy is a beast.

That's a bit of a reach. Maybe some consideration in the AHL but not in the NHL.

bud12 02-21-2013 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by WildcatMapleLeafs28 (Post 60162627)
That's a bit of a reach. Maybe some consideration in the AHL but not in the NHL.

No, its not. Name me one player who is a better p4p then him?

just find me one 185lbs guy that can go toe-to-toe with Wrecker like Gallant did 2x this year

240boy 02-21-2013 10:38 PM

Pound for pound Neil is easily the toughest. Guys never really "lost" a fight.

Zac Rinaldo is quickly becoming a force to recon with in the middle weight class

Zenon Konopka and Shawn Thornton with honorable mentions.

cc 02-21-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 240boy (Post 60216721)
Pound for pound Neil is easily the toughest. Guys never really "lost" a fight.

Zac Rinaldo is quickly becoming a force to recon with in the middle weight class

Zenon Konopka and Shawn Thornton with honorable mentions.

I consider Thornton to be a heavy.

bud12 02-21-2013 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 240boy (Post 60216721)
Pound for pound Neil is easily the toughest. Guys never really "lost" a fight.

Zac Rinaldo is quickly becoming a force to recon with in the middle weight class

Zenon Konopka and Shawn Thornton with honorable mentions.

-Neil have lost a share amount of fight
-Rinaldo is not a force in the middle class lol. a KO over Crombeen mean nothing.
-Konopka " the small huggybear" shouldn't be in any discussion

cyris 02-21-2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 240boy (Post 60216721)
Pound for pound Neil is easily the toughest. Guys never really "lost" a fight.

Zac Rinaldo is quickly becoming a force to recon with in the middle weight class

Zenon Konopka and Shawn Thornton with honorable mentions.

He really beat up Lucic's knuckles with his face in this one.



The only reason Neil doesn't lose more is he usually fights guys below his weightclass.

Beerz 02-21-2013 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 240boy (Post 60216721)
Pound for pound Neil is easily the toughest. Guys never really "lost" a fight.

Zac Rinaldo is quickly becoming a force to recon with in the middle weight class

Zenon Konopka and Shawn Thornton with honorable mentions.


Rinaldo? ..lol....


cc 02-22-2013 12:26 AM

volpatti has looked alright against guys his own weight class.


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