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stokes84 02-20-2013 08:46 AM

Pominville, Vanek
 
Time for the rebuild to commence. What could these guys fetch?

HockeyGuruPitka 02-20-2013 08:51 AM

I'd love to have either if not both, but i know the Sabres would never trade with the leafs. PLUS Darcy tends to send a bottle of lube along with w.e hes trading to the other team.

Jame 02-20-2013 08:55 AM

Pominville for Yandle

Jame 02-20-2013 08:58 AM

Vanek for Oreilly, Ryan Wilson, Pickard

tsujimoto74 02-20-2013 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jame (Post 60089787)
Vanek for Oreilly, Ryan Wilson, Pickard

I'd hate to see Vanek go, but that package looks pretty good. Would COL do it though? I mean, they're also in a rebuild, Vanek might not be the kind of player they're looking for.

TOGuy14 02-20-2013 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jame (Post 60089787)
Vanek for Oreilly, Ryan Wilson, Pickard

Teams that are bottom spenders and rebuilding generally don't trade controllable cheap youth for expensive wingers who are coming up on 30.

ctmagic 02-20-2013 09:53 AM

I'd give Granlund / 2014 1st for vanek

tsujimoto74 02-20-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ctmagic (Post 60091689)
I'd give Granlund / 2014 1st for vanek

Granlund's a good prospect and all, but Buffalo's not in the market for small forwards, really. Would Brodin or Coyle be on the table for Vanek?

KingCanadain1976 02-20-2013 12:28 PM

Would love to see what he could do with kopitar and williams but i dont think we can add a 7 million plus contract with the cap going down. Also i really dont think we would have the players to trade for him. sad thou he would look so good
vanek kopitar williams
brown richards carter

Girgenburger 02-20-2013 12:41 PM

For either Vanek or Pominville, I would think Darcy would ask for at least a top prospect and a roster player, preferably a top 6 player with size who can score.

KingCanadain1976 02-20-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wearegodawful (Post 60100715)
For either Vanek or Pominville, I would think Darcy would ask for at least a top prospect and a roster player, preferably a top 6 player with size who can score.

Not saying we would or this deal is good enuff but bernier stoll king for vanek and leopold If your tradeing vanek ur proberly tradeing miller as well. So bernier makes sense King does have size and has played on the 2nd line

sabresandcanucks 02-20-2013 12:51 PM

I only move Vanek for an elite defenseman...or a young prospect defenseman who has an elite ceiling showing early signs of reaching that potential.

Pommers...

Top Prospect goaltender with NHL experience + top nine defensive winger + 1/2 round pick (or high offensive ceiling prospect)

goal1228 02-20-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wearegodawful (Post 60100715)
For either Vanek or Pominville, I would think Darcy would ask for at least a top prospect and a roster player, preferably a top 6 player with size who can score.

What would you want from the Islanders for Vanek?

Girgenburger 02-20-2013 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 60100895)
Not saying we would or this deal is good enuff but bernier stoll king for vanek and leopold If your tradeing vanek ur proberly tradeing miller as well. So bernier makes sense King does have size and has played on the 2nd line

While those are quality pieces from LA, I just think Vanek could fetch more. I would look at some smaller deals for King and Stoll. If Miller gets run out of Buffalo or demands a trade, I could see Bernier becoming an option.

Has Vanek for Kopitar ever been discussed? I would assume Buffalo needs to add a smidge. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd? You could probably have Stafford, too.

Girgenburger 02-20-2013 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by goal1228 (Post 60101231)
What would you want from the Islanders for Vanek?

Nino, at the very least.

MRichards10 02-20-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by wearegodawful (Post 60101239)
While those are quality pieces from LA, I just think Vanek could fetch more. I would look at some smaller deals for King and Stoll. If Miller gets run out of Buffalo or demands a trade, I could see Bernier becoming an option.

Has Vanek for Kopitar ever been discussed? I would assume Buffalo needs to add a smidge. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd? You could probably have Stafford, too.

As much as I would love to add Vanek, I would say we would need to hang onto to Kopitar.

KingCanadain1976 02-20-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wearegodawful (Post 60101239)
While those are quality pieces from LA, I just think Vanek could fetch more. I would look at some smaller deals for King and Stoll. If Miller gets run out of Buffalo or demands a trade, I could see Bernier becoming an option.

Has Vanek for Kopitar ever been discussed? I would assume Buffalo needs to add a smidge. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd? You could probably have Stafford, too.

I understand and agree you would proberly get more. As to kopitar for vanek yes i belive it been discussed and i honestly dont see him ever traded. While quick and drew get more press Kopitar is the heart and soul of the team. Hes a home grown talent that led us to the cup. I dont see him being traded. I also want to see him play with vanek or similar high end lw. As stated above if ur getting rid of vanek ur ll be getting rid of millar make no sence to keep only one of them. La needs scoring winger and a vertern defenseman. I really do see us as good trade partners on smaller deal Just figured id give it a shot to pull off a blockbuster.

tsujimoto74 02-20-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 60100895)
Not saying we would or this deal is good enuff but bernier stoll king for vanek and leopold If your tradeing vanek ur proberly tradeing miller as well. So bernier makes sense King does have size and has played on the 2nd line

Not even close.

KingCanadain1976 02-20-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 (Post 60102273)
Not even close.

care to counter ? keep in mind that if buffalo is tradeing vanek there rebuilding so i dont see them asking for anyone in kings top 6

DG 02-20-2013 01:24 PM

Notwithstanding the Buffalo/Ottawa feud, I have always liked Pominville, even if he has been clutch against the Senators for years.

It would be weird, but I wouldn't mind him becoming a Senator.

That said, now is not the time for Ottawa to shell out assets for a guy like that.

tsujimoto74 02-20-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 60102993)
care to counter ? keep in mind that if buffalo is tradeing vanek there rebuilding so i dont see them asking for anyone in kings top 6

Voynov+ ?
I don't really like any of LA's forward prospects, and they don't have a 1st, so I have a hard time seeing any deal there.

KingCanadain1976 02-20-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 (Post 60103453)
Voynov+ ?
I don't really like any of LA's forward prospects, and they don't have a 1st, so I have a hard time seeing any deal there.

fair enuff no deal We already have 3 defenseman out with injurys and we wont deal our best one that we have left.

La Cosa Nostra 02-20-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wearegodawful (Post 60101279)
Nino, at the very least.

No. Nino isn't even close to worth Vanek. Isles want Vanek? Strome + Reinhart. And I'd rather keep Vanek then two unproven prospects.

Djp 02-20-2013 03:32 PM

Both are UFAs after next year so they will be attractive deadline players to trade because you will be getting 2 playoff years with them but only paying them one year.

Pominville is the more likely player to be moved.

For Pominville ($5.5M)

Young Forward or Defenseman or goalie + #1 2014

Vanek ($7.5M) will not be given away.

For vanek you need to offer: young 20 yr old future goal scorer type of player(Kassian), another B level player, and 1st round pick in 2013 or established young player (Yandle, +prospect+ pick (!st 2014/2nd 2013)

Because of their salary cap next year If Buffalo is out of it I do see them moving Pomminville and Stafford at the deadline. Vanek will need a big time WOW to be dealt.

MRichards10 02-20-2013 03:35 PM

Martinez, Williams and 2nd 2013 or 1st 2014 for Van?


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