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Hawks10 02-20-2013 02:53 PM

Mika Zibanejad - How good will he be? Comparisons?
 
I don't know much about him. Who does he compare to, what's his ceiling?

Joey Moss 02-20-2013 02:57 PM

Hard to think of a comparable.

I've been pretty disappointed with him so far. Seems like a future 2nd-3rd liner.

Proust 02-20-2013 03:00 PM

Ovechkin-lite (ie. Ovechkin-now).

25G - 25A power-forward in his prime.

Hale The Villain 02-20-2013 03:08 PM

Good forechecker, surprisingly fast at times, has a good shot which he needs to use more often. Flashes skill, but doesn't consistently show it from game to game.

He needs to improve his stickhandling, he's awkward at handling the puck. Still needs more development. Has potential, but is just so raw at this point that it's hard to predict how good he is going to be.

People forget he's still 19. Has a great tools, if he puts it together he'll be a player.

Rob Nieds work ethic 02-20-2013 03:08 PM

I remember TSN comparing him to Bobby Holik at his draft. I don't really see it.

Security Guard Chang* 02-20-2013 03:40 PM

He'll be a player in the Kessler / bergeron / fisher mold

Type of player you need .

NyQuil 02-20-2013 03:48 PM

He's a strange blend of attributes.

He can skate relatively quickly, but very awkwardly, and he loses his balance often.

He has a great shot, but doesn't retain puck possession all that well and his stick-handling isn't great.

He has good reach, but he's not big enough to hold guys off with his physical bulk yet.

He reminds me a bit of an unrefined Jordan Staal.

Some people have been harping on his hockey IQ, but I think it's actually pretty decent. He has good vision and can find guys with good passes.

He appears tall and lanky out there, with big, cumbersome strides, but he can make quick and decisive turns when he doesn't run into someone.

As a power forward, coming up in the Swedish system, I think it will take him a lot longer to mature than a Canadian who has been playing that style over here.

But his potential is in that vein, rather than as a skilled finesse forward.

Andre Benoit Bawls 02-20-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NyQuil (Post 60113321)
He's a strange blend of attributes.

He can skate relatively quickly, but very awkwardly, and he loses his balance often.

He has a great shot, but doesn't retain puck possession all that well and his stick-handling isn't great.

He has good reach, but he's not big enough to hold guys off with his physical bulk yet.

He reminds me a bit of an unrefined Jordan Staal.

Some people have been harping on his hockey IQ, but I think it's actually pretty decent. He has good vision and can find guys with good passes.

He appears tall and lanky out there, with big, cumbersome strides, but he can make quick and decisive turns when he doesn't run into someone.

As a power forward, coming up in the Swedish system, I think it will take him a lot longer to mature than a Canadian who has been playing that style over here.

But his potential is in that vein, rather than as a skilled finesse forward.

Pretty damn accurate.

Gil Gunderson 02-20-2013 04:23 PM

I'd be happy with a Fisher-like player.

IHWR 02-20-2013 06:50 PM

There's times where he reminds me of Marian Hossa...and there's times when he doesn't.

Kiss My Rask 02-20-2013 06:51 PM

has a nice shot from the one game i remember him playing (preseason game from last season - BOS-OTT)

capfit9 02-20-2013 07:04 PM

Mike Fisher

Security Guard Chang* 02-20-2013 07:58 PM

I think his stick handling isn't that bad. I see clear top 6 offensive skills in him.

DKQ 02-20-2013 08:31 PM

His development hasn't been terrible, but I think he gets a negative perception due to how well a lot of prospects drafted after him have developed (Hamilton, Couturier, Brodin, Baertschi, Klefbom, etc)

NEWFowler 02-20-2013 09:25 PM

I like the Mike Fisher comparison. Good call on whoever said that.

zeke 02-20-2013 10:06 PM

Tlusty

nitz 02-20-2013 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gil Gunderson (Post 60115161)
I'd be happy with a Fisher-like player.

A 3rd line centre from a lottery pick? I wouldn't be happy with that.

Minister of Offence 02-20-2013 10:39 PM

Better than Nino.

I see him being a little better than most seem to think. Got a lot of raw abilities that can be honed over time. Gonna be a big guy with a powerful stride and a array of heavy shots. He's also not as incompetent as everyone thought as far IQ goes.

Wouldn't be surprised if he's a better winger than Michalek..just think it takes more time.

Cujomi 02-20-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by nitz (Post 60143017)
A 3rd line centre from a lottery pick? I wouldn't be happy with that.

Look at the past 10 drafts and tell me how well most 6th overall picks have done? I'd be very happy with a Fisher. Fisher is a very good player.

Anyway...right now I'm concerned about him. I don't think he was the optimal pick at his position and I've always been sceptical of the pick. He has all the tools -- a great shot, speed, hands, size...but he just doesn't seem to have the head to go with it. There's a chance that a switch turns on, but with all the issues he's had so far in his career I'm thinking it's much more likely that he has the upside of a good 2nd line winger that could score 25 goals and bring good defence and energy to the team.

He'll be a valuable player I think, but I don't think he has that elite top end that should come from a lottery pick. I do think he's a safe bet to be a long time NHL player though.

nitz 02-20-2013 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cujomi (Post 60146319)
Look at the past 10 drafts and tell me how well most 6th overall picks have done? I'd be very happy with a Fisher. Fisher is a very good player.

Anyway...right now I'm concerned about him. I don't think he was the optimal pick at his position and I've always been sceptical of the pick. He has all the tools -- a great shot, speed, hands, size...but he just doesn't seem to have the head to go with it. There's a chance that a switch turns on, but with all the issues he's had so far in his career I'm thinking it's much more likely that he has the upside of a good 2nd line winger that could score 25 goals and bring good defence and energy to the team.

He'll be a valuable player I think, but I don't think he has that elite top end that should come from a lottery pick. I do think he's a safe bet to be a long time NHL player though.

You don't shoot for a 3rd line centre with the #6 overall pick. End of discussion.

Edmonton is having the same thing happen with Paajarvi right now. Certainly not living up to draft expectations, and I, for one, have been very disappointed with him.

Oberyn 02-21-2013 12:06 AM

If Sens are hoping for a Mike Fisher with a 6th overall pick, they have to rethink they're drafting strategy.

tfong 02-21-2013 12:09 AM

Flames/Wings fan comment.

The single game I saw him...I thought, hey its Franzen.

Good/bad you can take it as you will. But I mean hes 19, you're not really seeing a completely developed product yet.

Andre Benoit Bawls 02-21-2013 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfong (Post 60148725)
Flames/Wings fan comment.

The single game I saw him...I thought, hey its Franzen.

Good/bad you can take it as you will. But I mean hes 19, you're not really seeing a completely developed product yet.

I'd be pretty damn happy with a Johan Franzen. I think Zibanejad is faster and better defensively though.

tfong 02-21-2013 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The OttoMan Lion (Post 60148813)
I'd be pretty damn happy with a Johan Franzen. I think Zibanejad is faster and better defensively though.

Franzen's speed is deceptive, he just never happens to really travel in a straight line and his work ethic isn't 100% all the time now either.

Andre Benoit Bawls 02-21-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfong (Post 60149239)
Franzen's speed is deceptive, he just never happens to really travel in a straight line and his work ethic isn't 100% all the time now either.

Franzen isn't as slow as some say but Zibanejad is straight speedy


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