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MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 02:54 PM

In-Game Differences With New Coach?
 
- End of Hecht in the top 6?
- Leopold never dresses again?
- Vanek smiles?

Rasmus Reichel 02-20-2013 02:56 PM

I'm intrigued to see the effect this has in vanek, more minutes? Less getting beat up in front of the net?

Myllz 02-20-2013 02:56 PM

Pominville off the point on the powerplay.

smitter88 02-20-2013 02:57 PM

Hecht ~12:00 TOI

ImpressedDAHagent 02-20-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Myllz (Post 60109787)
Pominville off the point on the powerplay.

Yeah I'd like to see this. They just don't have enough forwards down low and we are loaded with power play defensemen

kirby11 02-20-2013 02:59 PM

VHP as a PP unit with Ehrhoff/? on the back end
Grigs either gets sent down (preferably) or gets a chance to play with some decent talent for at least part of a game(Grigs-Enzo-Staff line?)
Myers-Regehr and Myers-Leo are never again used as pairings once sekera's back

BuiltTagonTough 02-20-2013 03:00 PM

It'll be interesting to see if Vanek gets put on the PK. Maybe we will see 50 goals from him yet.

Zip15 02-20-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucky Gleason (Post 60109643)
- End of Hecht in the top 6?
- Leopold never dresses again?
- Vanek smiles?

Jochen Hecht is not in the top-6. He's 8th among forwards in ice time. Top-9? Yes. Top-6? No.

vcv 02-20-2013 03:03 PM

Ehrhoff on the first PP where he belongs.
Grigorenko given more chances to succeed.

Zip15 02-20-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSchoolMaster (Post 60110107)
It'll be interesting to see if Vanek gets put on the PK. Maybe we will see 50 goals from him yet.

Why do people want the team's top forward blocking shots with his shins, his skates, and the rest of his body? I've never understood the fascination with people wanting Vanek on the PK. Because he may score a shortie once in a blue moon? Great. Lotta consolation that'll be when he breaks a bone blocking a shot.

Oan 02-20-2013 03:05 PM

Leino roaring back when he is given more liberties.



If he just was healthy.

MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 60110293)
Jochen Hecht is not in the top-6. He's 8th among forwards in ice time. Top-9? Yes. Top-6? No.

He's had his shifts there.

Myllz 02-20-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Oan (Post 60110485)
Leino roaring back when he is given more liberties.



If he just was healthy.

This should be: "Leino all of a sudden becomes healthy."

:laugh:

Zip15 02-20-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucky Gleason (Post 60110489)
He's had his shifts there.

At this point, who hasn't on this roster? Maybe Scott and McCormick and Ellis. That's about it.

MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 60110579)
At this point, who hasn't on this roster? Maybe Scott and McCormick and Ellis. That's about it.

I'd argue the guy they waived this morning deserved it more this year than Jochen.

Rasmus Reichel 02-20-2013 03:12 PM

Roy re-signs and gets 90 points :laugh:

Royisgone 02-20-2013 03:15 PM

I'll be shocked if we don't see an immediate jump in energy, attitude, and to use a word I hate, "COMPETE".

BuiltTagonTough 02-20-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 60110429)
Why do people want the team's top forward blocking shots with his shins, his skates, and the rest of his body? I've never understood the fascination with people wanting Vanek on the PK. Because he may score a shortie once in a blue moon? Great. Lotta consolation that'll be when he breaks a bone blocking a shot.

Not exactly campaigning for it.

Just said it would be interesting.

Zip15 02-20-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucky Gleason (Post 60110675)
I'd argue the guy they waived this morning deserved it more this year than Jochen.

He was on the ice for goal-prevention. In that regard, he's been fine. Far be it from me to stare down the HF echo chamber, though.

MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 60111659)
He was on the ice for goal-prevention. In that regard, he's been fine. Far be it from me to stare down the HF echo chamber, though.

I'd say he hasn't, but that's me. I have no gripe about Hecht as a serviceable 3rd line center. He's no longer an effective two-way player, though, and not good enough defensively to make up for that.

Zip15 02-20-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bucky Gleason (Post 60112069)
I'd say he hasn't, but that's me. I have no gripe about Hecht as a serviceable 3rd line center. He's no longer an effective two-way player, though, and not good enough defensively to make up for that.

And yet, for one reason or another, teams aren't scoring with him on the ice. Perhaps there's a reason for that. Perhaps it's a wonderful coincidence. But that's what the numbers are saying.

MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 03:32 PM

Certainly his QoC has nothing to do with that

Zip15 02-20-2013 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucky Gleason (Post 60112343)
Certainly his QoC has nothing to do with that

6th of 11 forwards in qualcomp (min. 10 games)
2nd lowest percentage of O-zone starts to Kaleta

He's not good in the offensive end, but he's been effective on a defensive line with Ott.

MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 03:42 PM

It's disingenuous to set the 10 game minimum when 8 games counts as half of a full season played :laugh:.

Even so, I have him coming up further down the list. Are we checking different sources?


He's not a defensive liability like a good number of our forwards are, but he's hardly the driving force behind defensive success on his line.

MARCUS FOLlGNO PHD 02-20-2013 03:48 PM

Anyway, that's ancillary to the main point, which was that Hecht in a greater role would not help the team win games as much as other players on the roster. I feel fairly comfortable in that assessment.


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