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crack2464 02-20-2013 05:46 PM

Myers and McCormick to Edm for?
 
What would the Oilers have to give up to aquire Tyler Myers and Cody McCormick? McCormick can be had for free right now so there's obviously not going to be much value going back for him. Oilers also need to clear a roster spot soon so a 3 for 2 deal would be best for them.

Djp 02-20-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crack2464 (Post 60119539)
What would the Oilers have to give up to aquire Tyler Myers and Cody McCormick? McCormick can be had for free right now so there's obviously not going to be much value going back for him. Oilers also need to clear a roster spot soon so a 3 for 2 deal would be best for them.

Buffalo is in the same situation with roster...they cant take back more players who cant be sent down to AHL.

As for Aquiring Myers it would have to be for Eberlee or Hall

1972 02-20-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by crack2464 (Post 60119539)
What would the Oilers have to give up to aquire Tyler Myers and Cody McCormick? McCormick can be had for free right now so there's obviously not going to be much value going back for him. Oilers also need to clear a roster spot soon so a 3 for 2 deal would be best for them.

It would take a lot to get Myers,

Phion Keneuf 02-20-2013 05:54 PM

Speculation?

Sh00terMcGavin 02-20-2013 05:55 PM

You have to overpay to get a guy like Myers so you'd have to get rid of one of those talented forwards.

Vipers31 02-20-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Phion Keneuf (Post 60119923)
Speculation?

Has been corrected to represent the "value of"-request for such a move to Edmonton in the title.

Connor McDavid 02-20-2013 06:02 PM

Kesler


e: lol I can't read

jumptheshark 02-20-2013 06:11 PM

Cody McCormick is on waivers

belair 02-20-2013 06:12 PM

Edmonton fan saying "No, thank you."

He's a good kid, but paying the guy $5.5M till 2019 is a little unsettling. Especially with Justin Schultz currently on an entry-level deal.

I'd make a deal for McCormick, but I don't see him clearing waivers.

Kezia 02-20-2013 06:14 PM

Paajarvi and Marincin.

Elever 02-20-2013 06:15 PM

Schultz is good but at his best Myers is far better. He's a true no1 dman who has consistency issues.

Sabres don't have that no1, Ehrhoff is a 2-3 I'd say so their best bet is to see if a new coach will help out Myers as Ruff clearly wasn't.

9GWG9 02-20-2013 06:18 PM

Is this the same Tyler Myers that has gotten worse since signing his big deal and has had recent visits to the press box?

Roof Daddy 02-20-2013 06:20 PM

Given the cost it would take to get Myers, I don't think it would be worth it. If I knew I was getting the same Myers from that 7 game series against the Flyers 2 years ago, there'd be no hesitation (although why would Buffalo deal him if he regained that form and brought it consistently). He can dominate when 100% healthy and focused, but that doesn't describe his current play. Just doesn't look fully recovered from the injury last year.

belair 02-20-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloparren (Post 60120963)
Schultz is good but at his best Myers is far better. He's a true no1 dman who has consistency issues.

Sabres don't have that no1, Ehrhoff is a 2-3 I'd say so their best bet is to see if a new coach will help out Myers as Ruff clearly wasn't.

The funny thing is, young players tend to continue to develop. So outside of a small sample size, we can't really tell how good Schultz is two years from now in respect to Myers.

So having the bar already set at $5.5M could work against them considering they've already got Hall and Eberle at $6M starting next year.

jumptheshark 02-20-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloparren (Post 60120963)
Schultz is good but at his best Myers is far better. He's a true no1 dman who has consistency issues.

Sabres don't have that no1, Ehrhoff is a 2-3 I'd say so their best bet is to see if a new coach will help out Myers as Ruff clearly wasn't.

lets look back on this opinion in two years

tsujimoto74 02-20-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny FTW (Post 60120919)
Paajarvi and Marincin.

For McCormick? Done.

jumptheshark 02-20-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 (Post 60124549)
For McCormick? Done.

gitta love waiver players

Havok89 02-20-2013 07:16 PM

I'd like to see how he plays without Lindy Ruff.

Kezia 02-20-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tsujimoto74 (Post 60124549)
For McCormick? Done.

For the huge contract bottom pairing dman. Myers looks lost and has been awful the last 2 seasons.

Lessy 02-20-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kloparren (Post 60120963)
Schultz is good but at his best Myers is far better. He's a true no1 dman who has consistency issues.

Sabres don't have that no1, Ehrhoff is a 2-3 I'd say so their best bet is to see if a new coach will help out Myers as Ruff clearly wasn't.

True no1 dmen don't have consistency issues. If Myers didn't have consistency issues he wouldn't be discussed as a trade target.

With the way Myers has looked over the past year there's no chance the Oilers move one of the big 4 for him and the Sabres would understandably want one of them although that's a pipe dream for them at this stage.

1972 02-20-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny FTW (Post 60129915)
For the huge contract bottom pairing dman. Myers looks lost and has been awful the last 2 seasons.

Wrong, he has been awful for about 40 games in the last 2 years, a lot of it had to do with injury. He will be a top pair guy again before the end of the season.

1972 02-20-2013 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lessy (Post 60131121)
True no1 dmen don't have consistency issues.

Doughty, Keith, Weber, Suter, and others beg to differ

Shinsuke Nakamura 02-20-2013 09:23 PM

McCormick would cost nothing.

Myers would undoubtedly cost one of the big four up front.

Eskimo44 02-20-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Darcy Regier (Post 60132019)
Doughty, Keith, Weber, Suter, and others beg to differ

Myers isn't anywhere close to that level. I think he's still a young guy developing and a quality player but those players are always their teams best defensive players and they bring good offense. All those guys are always terrific even if they aren't at their best.

New Sabres Captain 02-20-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny FTW (Post 60129915)
For the huge contract bottom pairing dman. Myers looks lost and has been awful the last 2 seasons.

Yet it seems every week someone's posting a proposal to get him...

Myers with a new coach might do better...the potential is still there. More than anything he has consistency problems...some times he looks great, others he looks lost. Even over the past 2 seasons, there have been stretches where he's been great (though not getting the offensive numbers). For whatever reason, other than his rookie year he's started every season horribly...but by the end of the season he looks more like the Myers we know he can be. It's just you get labeled as a bust in the first 20 games that nobody bothers to pay attention to the last 60. Myers played great towards the end of last year after coming back from his injury--and that was a big part of the Sabres going from dead last to 9th place...and then when he got hurt at the end of the season the whole thing fell apart.

If Myers would just play at the beginning of the year like he does at the end, there would be no question he's a #1 D.


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