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Crafton 02-21-2013 08:12 PM

Winger Acquisition Thread | Part V: Wingers in the Hands of an Angry (Hockey) God
 
WINGERZ

lets keep all winger acquisition talk here.

Player
Shoots
Age
Current Team
Playoffs
Cap Hit
Signed Till
Role
Attainability
Corey Perry
RW/RHS
27
Anaheim
In Contention
$5,325,000
2012-13
Crosby's Dream
Pending UFA
Bobby Ryan
RW/RHS
25
Anaheim
In Contention
$5,100,000
2014-15
Crosby's Dream
Pure Fantasy
Thomas Vanek
LW/RHS
29
Buffalo
On the Bubble
$7,142,857
2013-14
Crosby's Sniper
ein Mann Verbrennung
Drew Stafford
RW/RHS
27
Buffalo
On the Bubble
$4,000,000
2014-15
Crosby's School-Chum
Playing on Third Line
Alex Semin
RW/RHS
28
Carolina
In Contention
$7,000,000
2012-13
Crosby's Hired Gun
Pending UFA
RJ Umberger
LW/LHS
30
Columbus
Not Likely
$4,600,000
2016-17
Malkin's Kunitz?
Burdensome Contract?
Alex Tanguay
LW/LHS
33
Calgary
Not Likely
$3,500,000
2015-16
Crosby's Third Wheel
Impending Youth Movement?
Curtis Glencross
LW/LHS
30
Calgary
No Likely
$2,550,000
2014-15
Crosby's Third Wheel
Hockey Trade?
Jarome Iginla
RW/RHS
35
Calgary
Not Likely
$7,000,000
2012-13
Crosby's Olympian
Pending UFA, Bourque-ing
Lee Stempniak
RW/RHS
30
Calgary
Not Likely
$2,500,000
2013-14
Crosby's Lee Remick
Impending Youth Movement?
Viktor Stålberg
RW/LHS
27
Chicago
In Contention
$875,000
2012-13
Crosby's TFK?
Ample Forward Depth?
Jamie McGinn
LW/LHS
24
Colorado
Not Likely
$1,750,000
2013-14
Crosby's Kunitz
Ample Forward Depth?
David Jones
RW/RHS
28
Colorado
Not Likely
$4,000,000
2015-16
Crosby's Pop-Star
Ample Forward Depth?
Ray Whitney
LW/RHS
40
Dallas
In Contention
$4,500,000
2013-14
Crosby's Wizard
Ample Forward Depth?
Brenden Morrow
LW/LHS
34
Dallas
In Contention
$4,100,000
2012-13
Crosby's Guerin
busted down and worn out
Jaromír Jágr
RW/LHS
40
Dallas
In Contention
$4,550,000
2012-13
Crosby's Troll
Pending UFA, Nostalgia
Michael Ryder
RW/RHS
32
Dallas
In Contention
$3,500,000
2012-13
Crosby's Sniper
Traded to MTL
Johan Franzen
RW/LHS
33
Detroit
In Contention
$3,954,545
2019-20
Crosby's Mule
Dat Contract, Dat Inconsistency
Aleš Hemský
RW/RHS
29
Edmonton
On the Bubble
$5,000,000
2013-14
Crosby's Playmaker
Youth Movement?
Magnus Pääjärvi
LW/LHS
21
Edmonton
On the Bubble
$1,525,000
2012-13
Malkin's Kunitz?
Ample Forward Depth?
Alexei Kovalev
RW/LHS
39
Florida
Not Likely
$1,450,000
2012-13
TDL Seller?
Peter Mueller
RW/RHS
24
Florida
Not Likely
$1,725,000
2012-13
Crosby's Running Mate
TDL Seller?
Simon Gagné
LW/LHS
32
Los Angeles
In Contention
$4,500,000
2012-13
Sýkora-esque?
Traded to PHI
Charlie Coyle
RW/RHS
20
Minnesota
On the Bubble
$975,000
2014-15
Crosby's Neal
Ample Forward Depth?
Dany Heatley
LW/LHS
32
Minnesota
On the Bubble
$7,500,000
2013-14
Not Crosby's Driver
Burdensome Contract?
PM Bouchard
LW/LHS
28
Minnesota
On the Bubble
$4,080,000
2012-13
Crosby's Quiet Room Bud
Pending UFA
Devin Setoguchi
RW/RHS
26
Minnesota
On the Bubble
$3,000,000
2013-14
Crosby's Neal
Hockey Trade?
Brian Gionta
RW/RHS
34
Montréal
In Contention
$5,000,000
2013-14
Crosby's Midget
Overpriced Veteran
Colin Wilson
LW/LHS
23
Nashville
In Contention
$2,000,000
2014-15
Crosby's Neal
Hockey Trade?
Patric Hörnqvist
RW/RHS
26
Nashville
In Contention
$3,083,333
2012-13
Crosby's Net-Front Screen
Pending RFA
Nino Niederreiter
RW/LHS
20
NY Islanders
On the Bubble
$2,795,000
2013-14
Crosby's Neal
Katie Strang Report
Radim Vrbata
RW/RHS
31
Phoenix
In Contention
$3,000,000
2013-14
Crosby's Sniper
Hockey Trade?
Ryane Clowe
LW/LHS
30
San Jose
In Contention
$3,625,000
2012-13
Crosby's Kunitz
Pending UFA
Chris Stewart
RW/RHS
25
St. Louis
In Contention
$3,000,000
2012-13
Crosby's Neal
dream, dream, dream
Ryan Malone
LW/LHS
33
Tampa Bay
In Contention
$4,500,000
2014-15
Overpaid Veteran
Clarke MacArthur
LW/LHS
27
Toronto
In Contention
$3,250,000
2012-13
Crosby's Big Chief
Underwhelming Performance, UFA
Николай Кулёмин
LW/LHS
26
Toronto
In Contention
$2,800,000
2013-14
Malkin's BFF
Underwhelming Performance
Blake Wheeler
RW/RHS
26
Winnipeg
Not Likely
$2,550,000
2012-13
Crosby's Tyger
Little Hope, Pending RFA

Crafton 02-21-2013 08:13 PM

thread title comes from the Jonathan Edwards sermon.

this board's desire for some wingers to play with Crosby and Malkin is "like the great waters that are dammed for the present; [the desire] increase[s] more and more, and rise[s] higher and higher, till an outlet is given; and the longer the stream is stopped, the more rapid and mighty is its course, when once it is let loose."

KIRK 02-21-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crafton (Post 60200473)
thread title comes from the Jonathan Edwards sermon.

this board's desire for some wingers to play with Crosby and Malkin is "like the great waters that are dammed for the present; [the desire] increase[s] more and more, and rise[s] higher and higher, till an outlet is given; and the longer the stream is stopped, the more rapid and mighty is its course, when once it is let loose."

Does that mean Ray Shero and his precious defensive prospects are the dam? :laugh:

So, let's see where we're at . . .

Tarasenko injury means forget about Stewart/mpp9 on suicide watch.

Iginla will cost a ton, might not re-sign, might play old in three years if he does.

Kulemin is worth TK and a 2nd, adds a different third line guy for Malkin and Neal who likely will have marginal if any impact.

Malone gets injured, not worth 4.5M, if Tampa eats a third of the cap hit, then he's worth TK and a 2nd.

Perry is a wet dream.

Anyone care to add? :D

EDIT: Forgot one . . . Shero so infatuated with perfection of James Neal trade that it has become his threshold for what represents an acceptable risk.

Darth Vitale 02-21-2013 08:23 PM

Stewart is actually crossed off even though it doesn't look like it. :sarcasm:

KIRK 02-21-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chancellor Vitale (Post 60201925)
Stewart is actually crossed off even though it doesn't look like it. :sarcasm:

Don't let mpp9 see this post. :shakehead

volcom 02-21-2013 08:27 PM

if shero somehow pulled off a miracle and got perry to the pens, it would solve all of our problems

Captain Hook 02-21-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordie
But that would require good coaching and at least some healthy fear of what happen to you if you hurt the team by straying away from a quality game plan, you know like it was here when Michel Therrien was in charge. Can't help but be jealous of Hab's fans these days.
Montreal, 16gp, 105 total penalties
Pittsburgh, 17gp, 89 total penalties.

Crafton 02-21-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chancellor Vitale (Post 60201925)
Stewart is actually crossed off even though it doesn't look like it. :sarcasm:

The Everly Brothers don't **** around. they call it like they see it. Stewart is now a fantasy (with sweet vocal harmonies!!!)

Crafton 02-21-2013 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRK (Post 60201755)
Does that mean Ray Shero and his precious defensive prospects are the dam? :laugh:

well the sermon does make a reference to outlet passing. :laugh:

as to Shero's cautiousness, i think we'll reach nine or ten of these winger threads before a move is made. that'll be 10000 posts and the title will probably be "Winger Acquisition Thread | Part X: Winger is a Band (and I've Run Out of Literary References)"

Rocket of Russia 02-21-2013 08:34 PM

Mueller having a solid game tonight/restoring sanity after puke-worthy loss.

gordie 02-21-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Hook (Post 60202987)
Montreal, 16gp, 105 total penalties
Pittsburgh, 17gp, 89 total penalties.

That shows the talent discrepancy that Michel Therrien has to overcome in Montreal unlike our resident whistle blower has too here in Pittsburgh but Thanks! for pointing it out.

SprootsMasterFlex 02-21-2013 08:40 PM

Now here's something that'll heat up this thread...

Sorry guys but I can't post it using my tablet... Check out Russo's Twitter. He mentions chatting with Don Waddell who is scouting Minny & Edmonton tonight and currently on a super long scouting trip. So far, based on tonight game, interesting how it involves 2 teams we won't play this year who have surplus of forwards and looking for help on D.

SprootsMasterFlex 02-21-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket of Russia (Post 60204545)
Mueller having a solid game tonight/restoring sanity after puke-worthy loss.

I always liked Mueller's potential. He'd look great on our team know he can prove that he's completely over his concussion concerns.

DoctrSteveBrule 02-21-2013 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordie (Post 60204919)
That shows the talent discrepancy that Michel Therrien has to overcome in Montreal unlike our resident whistle blower has too here in Pittsburgh but Thanks! for pointing it out.

:shakehead

don't let facts get in the way of the truth, i guess

sexyllama 02-21-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SprootsMasterFlex (Post 60205875)
Now here's something that'll heat up this thread...

Sorry guys but I can't post it using my tablet... Check out Russo's Twitter. He mentions chatting with Don Waddell who is scouting Minny & Edmonton tonight and currently on a super long scouting trip. So far, based on tonight game, interesting how it involves 2 teams we won't play this year who have surplus of forwards and looking for help on D.

How does a Winger stop this one-trick pony breakout that when countered consistently leaves a 3v2 or 4v2 vs our goalie? (or my favorite cherry pick of the season Paul Martin 1 v 4 while the rest of team skates away...)

Saints11 02-21-2013 09:00 PM

Hope all this Shero's talking to the Avs is not about ROR, but rather David Jones. He could be Geno's or Sid's Left wing.

Captain Hook 02-21-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gordie (Post 60204919)
That shows the talent discrepancy that Michel Therrien has to overcome in Montreal unlike our resident whistle blower has too here in Pittsburgh but Thanks! for pointing it out.

You can get back to endlessly whining about the coach if you want. I just posted it because I found it interesting. We tend to think we were more disciplined under MT and we probably were in some ways because of his style but the numbers really don't support it.

Bylsma's first two full seasons
936 total penalties

MT's first two full seasons
963 total penalties

DB has had one more full year than MT and his 3 year total was 1306.

I threw out the seasons that there were coaching changes from Edzo to MT and MT to Bylsma.

This year Calgary actually has the fewest penalties in the league and that's followed by Minnesota and Winnipeg. Not exactly stacked teams. St. Louis and their disciplinarian coach Hitchcock have a comparable number of penalties to us at 85. Babcock's Wings are at 84 in the same number of games.

Penguinzilla 02-21-2013 09:04 PM

Malkin for Ovechkin. Malkin becomes #1 guy, Crosby gets his winger

pens877158 02-21-2013 09:28 PM

What about Stafford?, if the sabres keep falling like they are

SprootsMasterFlex 02-21-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocket of Russia (Post 60204545)
Mueller having a solid game tonight/restoring sanity after puke-worthy loss.

I always liked Mueller's potential. He'd look great on our team know he can prove that he's completely over his concussion concerns.

Le Magnifique 66 02-21-2013 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pens877158 (Post 60215375)
What about Stafford?, if the sabres keep falling like they are

He is one player I'd love to have here

AgentM 02-21-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SprootsMasterFlex (Post 60205875)
Now here's something that'll heat up this thread...

Sorry guys but I can't post it using my tablet... Check out Russo's Twitter. He mentions chatting with Don Waddell who is scouting Minny & Edmonton tonight and currently on a super long scouting trip. So far, based on tonight game, interesting how it involves 2 teams we won't play this year who have surplus of forwards and looking for help on D.

We must be getting really close on Cullen! Waddell can't let him get out of his sight!!!

pens877158 02-21-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Magnifique 66 (Post 60216325)
He is one player I'd love to have here

What would we be willing to give up? Mid prospect, 2nd?

domaug* 02-21-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pens877158 (Post 60217181)
What would we be willing to give up? Mid prospect, 2nd?

Buffalo fans would want something big, like Despres or Morrow.

i'm not sure there's a deal to be had there with Stafford's value at an all-time low

sexyllama 02-21-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pens877158 (Post 60215375)
What about Stafford?, if the sabres keep falling like they are

Stafford seems more realistic than the other names we've seen. I guess Dupuis would move to 3rd Line then TK can wash cars?

Now all we need is a coach.


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