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TMC1982 02-21-2013 08:52 PM

ESPN's John Skipper: "We are doing hockey highlights."
 
http://www.awfulannouncing.com/2013/...ighlights.html

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One of the fronts where ESPN has taken the most criticism lately is their handling of hockey, and that's understandable. The network hasn't exactly given the NHL a lot of coverage in recent years, which some would say is thanks to a serious belief inside Bristol that hockey "doesn't transfer to a national discussion." Others would argue it's because they don't have NHL broadcast rights (and competitor NBC does). Regardless of which side of that debate you fall on, it's become a prominent topic of discussion in the sports media world, and ESPN president John Skipper made some fascinating comments to Sports Illustrated's Richard Deitsch on the subject this week. Here's what he had to say (page two, item #4):

Watch for the Yeti 02-21-2013 08:58 PM

**** ESPN. They cover the NBA religiously and feel that the NBA is king outside of the NFL. ESPN isn't news, it's marketing.

WhatThePuck 02-21-2013 09:05 PM

No biggie.....Ratings are at record highs right now for the NHL in the States.....**** Espnba

krudmonk 02-21-2013 09:09 PM

hey did you guys hear what Dwight said about Kobe's shirt today?!?!?!

DJENTLEMAN 02-21-2013 09:32 PM

He's delusional if he thinks ESPN does even a marginal job at covering the NHL or hockey in general.


Ratings are through the roof and interest in the game is growing every year, proving that the NHL doesn't need ESPN. Soon ESPN will wish it had the rights to the NHL.


Sadly, ESPN is no longer about sports broadcasting as it's tailored all of it's coverage to hype to fit it's target audience and has thus relegated itself to a marketing portal.

Andrew Mack 02-21-2013 09:38 PM

I am sure it's hard to fit NHL in when you just have quotes and stories about Tim Tebow rolling 24/7.

guyincognito 02-21-2013 09:40 PM

ESPN shills their product and nothing else. They lost USMNT soccer, so what do they do? Get Mexico's english coverage and then start shilling Mexico.

Faidh ar Rud Eigin 02-21-2013 09:45 PM

What I don't understand is that after Football, they cover the NBA to death. As if it's the number one sport, when it's pretty clearly #3.

go_leafs_go02 02-21-2013 09:50 PM

Yeah right.. I was in the Dominican Republic with no internet, just ESPN on TV, and I had to wait literally 30 minutes of SportsCenter just to see the Leafs score.. ON THE TICKER.

And then 2 min of hockey highlights the very last 5 minutes of the show.

Turbofan 02-21-2013 09:53 PM

Hey, in case you guys missed it, the highlight reels tonight are going to show some 7-foot guy dunking a basketball.

yada 02-21-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CupChamps2011 (Post 60209657)
**** ESPN. They cover the NBA religiously and feel that the NBA is king outside of the NFL. ESPN isn't news, it's marketing.

pretty much how i feel on that channel. basically you get this is espn covering espns monday night coverage of nfl on espn. that channel became crap by starting to promote espn instead of mlb,, nfl, nba, or the nhl. i swear that channel thinks that those sports couldnt continue without their coverage.

guyincognito 02-21-2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Faidh ar Rud Eigin (Post 60217669)
What I don't understand is that after Football, they cover the NBA to death. As if it's the number one sport, when it's pretty clearly #3.

They own the majority of the playoff rights, that's why. They get no NFL playoff games and I don't think they get MLB playoff games anymore.

So the NBA is their big ticket now. They cover the NFL and MLB hard because they have no choice but to.

sh724 02-22-2013 12:10 AM

I just went to ESPN's website then to the NHL section and this is what I see

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ps18f8c0ae.png

Apparently there are not any games today.

If people really want to see ESPN cover more hockey than perhaps they should go randomly click on the NHL section of the website every day. If ESPN sees their hockey stuff is getting a lot of traffic they will increase it, of course it won't happen over night but over time they would increase their hockey coverage if they thought they would make more money from it

Crash Davis 02-22-2013 12:14 AM

**** ESPN. They can keep peddling their bull**** coverage. Ride the NBA, NFL long and hard. Every personality they have is a joke. I'm happy with NHL Network, NBC Sports Network

ESPN is the TMZ of sports

wildthing202 02-22-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sh724 (Post 60229791)
I just went to ESPN's website then to the NHL section and this is what I see

http://i1102.photobucket.com/albums/...ps18f8c0ae.png

Apparently there are not any games today.

If people really want to see ESPN cover more hockey than perhaps they should go randomly click on the NHL section of the website every day. If ESPN sees their hockey stuff is getting a lot of traffic they will increase it, of course it won't happen over night but over time they would increase their hockey coverage if they thought they would make more money from it

Maybe try a browser that works, I can see all of the scores fine on chrome.

MartyForVezina 02-22-2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Wings (Post 60218733)
Hey, in case you guys missed it, the highlight reels tonight are going to show some 7-foot guy dunking a basketball.

Came here to post exactly this.

Followed by Dwight Howard trade rumors.

Reclamation Project 02-22-2013 12:40 AM

As bad as ESPN is on TV, their radio coverage is horrendous. Switched to Fox Sports Radio and LOVE it! Especially here in LA. ESPN is a joke.

danishh 02-22-2013 01:00 AM

they havnt done it in a while, but i find deadspin's "bristolmetrics" articles are a pretty good indication of how much attention ESPN gives to each sport (and team).

http://deadspin.com/bristolmetrics/

here's the last relevant one for hockey:
The LA kings won the stanley cup on june 11th. Bristolmetrics from june 8th-14th shows:

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TIME DEVOTED TO INDIVIDUAL SPORTS
NBA: 190.5 minutes (48.1%) (last week: 57.1%)
MLB: 61 (15.4%) (last week: 16.7%)
SportsCenter staples (things like the "Top 10," "Encore," "What 2 Watch 4," etc.): 42 (10.6%) (last week: 9.1%)
NHL: 31 (7.8%) (last week: 6.1%)
Golf: 28.5 (7.1%) (last week: 2.7%)
Other sports: 12.25 (3.1%) (last week: 3%)
Soccer: 10.75 (2.7%)
NFL: 7.25 (1.8%) (last week: 2.3%)
College Baseball: 5.5 (1.4%)
NASCAR: 3.75 (1%) (last week: 1.7%)
College football: 3 (0.8%) (last week: 0%)
College basketball: 0 (0%) (last week: 0%)

MOST-COVERED TEAMS BY SPORT
Miami Heat (NBA): 144 minutes (36.4%)
Los Angeles Kings (NHL): 29 (7.3%)
San Francisco Giants (MLB): 11.75 (3%)
Auburn Tigers (college football): 2.25 (0.6%)
New England Patriots (NFL): 2 (0.5%)

MOST-MENTIONED SPORTS FIGURES
Rather than break down the amount of time a specific athlete or figure was covered, we counted how frequently names were mentioned in the transcripts from the week. The 15 most-mentioned sports people for June 8-14:

LeBron James: 266
Kevin Durant: 152
Dwyane Wade: 117
Chris Bosh: 95
Russell Westbrook: 54
Shane Battier: 51
Tiger Woods: 44
Martin Brodeur: 33
Matt Cain: 30
Rajon Rondo: 25
Phil Mickelson: 21
Mario Chalmers: 21
Bubba Watson: 20
Paul Pierce: 18
Erik Spoelstra: 17

CUMULATIVE STATISTICS: JAN. 7-JUNE 14
Total time: 10384.25 minutes
Time (minus commercials): 7833.75

NBA: 2,293 minutes (29.3%)
NFL: 1,122.25 (14.3%)
SportsCenter staples: 1,112.5 (14.2%)
MLB: 1035.75. (13.2%)
College basketball: 1035 (13.2%)
Other: 589.5 (8.3%)
NHL: 441 (5.6%)
College football: 144 (1.8%)
so dont try to tell me that ESPN isnt biased against the NHL and towards the NBA. The NBA's ratings in the USA are not 6x the NHL's.

wildthing202 02-22-2013 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by danishh (Post 60232037)
they havnt done it in a while, but i find deadspin's "bristolmetrics" articles are a pretty good indication of how much attention ESPN gives to each sport (and team).

http://deadspin.com/bristolmetrics/

here's the last relevant one for hockey:
The LA kings won the stanley cup on june 11th. Bristolmetrics from june 8th-14th shows:



so dont try to tell me that ESPN isnt biased against the NHL and towards the NBA. The NBA's ratings in the USA are not 6x the NHL's.

If it weren't for the LA Kings then yeah it probably would of been 6x. Nobody would of watched a Coyotes-Devils finals. Not to mention the NBA had a lot more superstars playing than the NHL did.

Melrose Munch 02-22-2013 07:30 AM

I like the other sports so this does not bother me at all.

berklon 02-22-2013 07:54 AM

I'm having a good laugh at all the anti-ESPN comments.

ESPN is covering what the viewers want them to cover, otherwise no one would be watching ESPN. Simple supply and demand.

Gobias Industries 02-22-2013 08:02 AM

Counterpoint from a Canadian NBA fan:

TSN is probably guilty of the opposite, only to a higher degree.

Crease 02-22-2013 08:08 AM

NHL and NBA national and local TV ratings are not as far apart as ESPN's news coverage of NHL and NBA.

ESPN has a TV deal with NBA. Through 2015-2016, ESPN and ESPN2 air 75 regular season games per season as well one of the conference finals. ABC airs 15 regular season games per season and the entire NBA finals. Beyond ratings for Sportscenter, PTI, and Around the Horn, ESPN sells ad time during their NBA broadcasts. It's in their financial interest to use their shows to boost interest in upcoming NBA games. Obviously they don't have this double-pronged motivation with the NHL. That said, they didn't do the best job promoting the game while they did have NHL broadcasting rights. So who knows.

Inkling 02-22-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by berklon (Post 60237855)
I'm having a good laugh at all the anti-ESPN comments.

ESPN is covering what the viewers want them to cover, otherwise no one would be watching ESPN. Simple supply and demand.

They don't exist to satisfy viewers or to cover what "viewers want them to cover", they exist to make money. The viewers are as much the product as the customer. If they don't have the rights to cover the NHL and they do have the rights to cover the NBA and they feel that it's beneficial overall to use Sportscenter to cross-promote their other shows, that's what they'll do. You're right that "it's just business", but don't confuse that with simply showing what viewers are demanding them to show.

IceAce 02-22-2013 08:13 AM

Even taking hockey out the equation, being a HUGE football and baseball fan, ESPN's programming is completely insufferable to watch unless they're broadcasting an actual game.


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