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Mats Zuccarelli 02-21-2013 09:24 PM

Brad Richards
 
Anyone want him? Give us your best offer!


Leafs fans, what about Richards for Kessel?

Juxtaposer 02-21-2013 09:34 PM

He has to have a nagging groin injury or something. That's the impression I get from how he looks on the ice.

kernel 02-21-2013 09:39 PM

Honestly Rangers fans WTF is up with that guy... His hockey IQ seems really poor now for such a good player could it be the Rags system?

Kershaw 02-21-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kernel (Post 60216921)
Honestly Rangers fans WTF is up with that guy... His hockey IQ seems really poor now is it just the system

Both of the later two. Stupid decision making for sure.

TBLHoser 02-21-2013 09:46 PM

Nobody's going to take him for that salary hit.

TheRightWay 02-21-2013 09:52 PM

Oh cool, it's that time of the day again where we get to overreact to small sample sizes!

Mats Zuccarelli 02-21-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRightWay (Post 60218523)
Oh cool, it's that time of the day again where we get to overreact to small sample sizes!

Small? The guy has sucked since the second half of last year

Deen 02-21-2013 09:57 PM

Bouwmeester for Richards?

TheRightWay 02-21-2013 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sick Rash (Post 60218713)
Small? The guy has sucked since the second half of last year

Huh? His best month of the season was in March and he was probably our best forward in the playoffs. This concept of putting everyone with a bad stretch on the trade block is getting tiresome. In recent years Rangers fans have done it with Girardi and Gaborik after full seasons of underachieving, and in hindsight it looks incredibly stupid. So forgive me if I think that a bad month or two is not enough for me to give up on Richards.

bobafettish* 02-21-2013 09:58 PM

why dont the ranger do what they do. buy him out.

Rivet52 02-21-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sick Rash (Post 60218713)
Small? The guy has sucked since the second half of last year

Come on now. He had 15 points in 20 playoff games last year. At least make an attempt to inform yourself before posting something like that.

He has 11 points in 16 GP this season. I realize only two of them are goals but come on. It's not like the guy is failing to produce and I certainly wouldn't call the signing a failure at this point.

Besides, if the Rangers trade him, who mans the first line? Derek Stepan is the only other true top-six center on the team.

TheRightWay 02-21-2013 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rivet52 (Post 60219587)
Come on now. He had 15 points in 20 playoff games last year.

He has 11 points in 16 GP this season. I realize only two of them are goals but come on. It's not like the guy is failing to produce and I certainly wouldn't call the signing a failure at this point.

Besides, if the Rangers trade him, who mans the first line? Derek Stepan is the only other true top-six center on the team.

Until Stepan has a rough patch and everyone turns on him. Then it will be JT Miller. And then the same will happen with him. It's the same crap over and over again, and I don't know why I expect any different.

Dark Knight 02-21-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sick Rash (Post 60214767)
Anyone want him? Give us your best offer!


Leafs fans, what about Richards for Kessel?

No.

How is it that every single contract you guys sign is awful, but you guys always manage to dodge a bullet by getting rid of it.

That contract has more than 8 or so years left and premium dollar.

What do you realistically expect for him?

TheRightWay 02-21-2013 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight (Post 60219987)
No.

How is it that every single contract you guys sign is awful, but you guys always manage to dodge a bullet by getting rid of it.

That contract has more than 8 or so years left and premium dollar.

What do you realistically expect for him?

Nothing because we're not trying to move him. Move on everyone, nothing to see here.

Joey Bones 02-21-2013 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobafettish (Post 60219305)
why dont the ranger do what they do. buy him out.

No. We can definitely find something significant from him.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivet52 (Post 60219587)
Come on now. He had 15 points in 20 playoff games last year. At least make an attempt to inform yourself before posting something like that.

He has 11 points in 16 GP this season. I realize only two of them are goals but come on. It's not like the guy is failing to produce and I certainly wouldn't call the signing a failure at this point.

Besides, if the Rangers trade him, who mans the first line? Derek Stepan is the only other true top-six center on the team.

True, I wouldn't call this a bust or failure signing because he was all right last year. However, even though he has 11 points in 16 games, his inconsistency to make a play and coughing the puck up almost every time he has it is really not helping the Rangers whatsoever. He needs to either get the ball rolling or tell your story walking because we have built a team to win it this year (& that still has yet to be seen). So look for NYR to be active during trade deadline.

Lundsanity30 02-21-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sick Rash (Post 60214767)
Anyone want him? Give us your best offer!


Leafs fans, what about Richards for Kessel?

a buy out.

Joey Bones 02-21-2013 10:18 PM

To answer this thread, I would say definitely a 2013 1st + one or two more things, but I can't put my finger on what....

What if we got Prust back? :sarcasm: :handclap:

Or Dubinsky and Anisimov? :sarcasm: :handclap:

Burlington Bomb 26 02-21-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sick Rash (Post 60218713)
Small? The guy has sucked since the second half of last year

2nd half of the season last year the only person to have more points is Evgeni Malkin

Brooklanders* 02-21-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sick Rash (Post 60214767)
Anyone want him? Give us your best offer!


Leafs fans, what about Richards for Kessel?

Erik Cole and Travis Moen

FrailSwan 02-21-2013 10:26 PM

Dallas would looooooooooooove a return.

BPD 02-21-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rivet52 (Post 60219587)
Come on now. He had 15 points in 20 playoff games last year. At least make an attempt to inform yourself before posting something like that.

He has 11 points in 16 GP this season. I realize only two of them are goals but come on. It's not like the guy is failing to produce and I certainly wouldn't call the signing a failure at this point.

Besides, if the Rangers trade him, who mans the first line? Derek Stepan is the only other true top-six center on the team.

Stop. Please, just stop. You can't use the scoresheet here - 2/3 of his points have been phantom or nonchalantly getting a stick on a puck en route to Gaborik or Nash. It's not like he's making plays - he's getting luck assists.

He's not "producing" anything. He touches the puck and it's like his teammates don't exist. He dances around like Jeff Skinners home videos and creates a turnover or drops the puck for nobody and turns it over. He's absolutely LOST out there right now.

This isn't an overreaction. This isn't a panic move - Richards is BEYOND slumping right now. He doesn't look at all engaged in the game.

Joey Bones 02-21-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FrailSwan (Post 60221905)
Dallas would looooooooooooove a return.

Can't tell if sarcastic or not? :sarcasm:

MountainGoat 02-21-2013 10:33 PM

don't think the Rangers can trade him unless they get a #1 C back, it would be like losing a right arm

CaptainCally 02-21-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FrailSwan (Post 60221905)
Dallas would looooooooooooove a return.

Since I'm in a good mood we won't steal your top prospect in that trade. We'll just take Jamie Benn, fair deal? Good, see ya. :sarcasm:

Never underestimate Sather :naughty:, and I think you got Gainey in your organization. The same guy that traded McDonagh away for 1 goal Gomez :laugh:. And IIRC your GM Nieuwendyk isn't the best trader... so it wouldn't be impossible :sarcasm:

Just One Cup 02-21-2013 10:40 PM

He has not looked like a team guy this season yet, not much chemistry from him on that line I think. He tries to do too much and ends up turning over pucks but I don't think you trade him now, just let him work through it.


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