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Scheifele55 02-22-2013 12:49 AM

ESPN Insider: Ruff's availability could prompt more firings
 
His firing in Buffalo is proof that nobody is untouchable and a slow start comes with consequences. So where should the head coach be nervous with Ruff now available?

Here are five options:

Winnipeg
Under the current tenure of Claude Noel, there have been rumblings in Winnipeg that the team is still struggling with establishing an identity since the franchise moved north from Atlanta. Bringing in a powerful voice like Ruff would immediately change that. After struggling on the road last year, the Jets have been surprisingly weak at home (3-5) in what was one of the toughest buildings to play in last season. Ruff is a good Western Canadian, which would play well in Winnipeg.

DespoticNewt 02-22-2013 01:30 AM

It would be a better option for him to go to either Colorado, Long Island, or Columbus. Buffalo Sabres fans have been calling for Ruff's firing for the past 5 years.

King Woodballs 02-22-2013 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burmistrov08 (Post 60231663)
His firing in Buffalo is proof that nobody is untouchable and a slow start comes with consequences. So where should the head coach be nervous with Ruff now available?

Here are five options:

Winnipeg
Under the current tenure of Claude Noel, there have been rumblings in Winnipeg that the team is still struggling with establishing an identity since the franchise moved north from Atlanta. Bringing in a powerful voice like Ruff would immediately change that. After struggling on the road last year, the Jets have been surprisingly weak at home (3-5) in what was one of the toughest buildings to play in last season. Ruff is a good Western Canadian, which would play well in Winnipeg.

Where are these rumblings coming from?
I have not heard nor read anything about it

If that chunk came from the ESPN article it is worth nothing to me.
ESPN knows nothing about hockey, and have proved it numerous times over the years

cbcwpg 02-22-2013 07:35 AM

I can't see Ruff sitting on the sidelines for very long. Having him available will most likely have some team firing their coach soon.

Guerzy 02-22-2013 07:57 AM

I would be stunned if TNSE jumped ship from Noel this early. Not going to happen, in my opinion.

fitzy0019 02-22-2013 08:41 AM

true north had a total of 4 or 5 coaches in moose history, only firing one. if there was any doubt that noel wasnt here long term, he wouldnt have been hired in the first place. until the team is a legit contender and loses, he wont be going anywhere. and this jets team is still a ways from being legit.

cheswick 02-22-2013 10:41 AM

Don't see it happening, don't want it to happen either. Ruff rubs me the wrong way. He's a Ron Wilson, Torts type of coach.

WJG 02-22-2013 10:44 AM

IMO, Noel needs to go, but I don't see TNSE doing it to him.

Bob E 02-22-2013 10:50 AM

No changes this year, imo, with the Jets. But I also don't subscribe to the idea Noel is here for the next decade because TNSE is loyal or they will follow the Predators lead on how they handled their coaching staff. Trotz led an expansion team to respectability but is now feeling some heat to get them over the top and deep into the playoffs. You can only go so long without playoff success.

I think Noel will be here for another year or 2, but if there are no playoff appearances by that time, his head will roll, imo.

vBurmi 02-22-2013 07:47 PM

I think management is and should be more worried about icing a better team - i.e. a full lineup of NHL caliber players - before firing someone they've worked with for a number of years now. I don't think they expected Noel to come in and instantly know what he was doing at the NHL level and not be given a chance to grow in to the role as the team progressed. This isn't a talent-rich team that's in disarray.

IMO you don't determine the firing of a coach by who is available unless of course you were only holding off due to a lack of a decent replacement (pretty much never the case). Nor do I think Ruff is some godly coach who would have done much more than Noel did over the last 1.5 years. If those were true, a few teams would have scrambled and fired their coach by now.

BigZ65 02-22-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Woodballs (Post 60237099)
Where are these rumblings coming from?


They must have been at the game when I had two Jet Dogs. :baghead:

Reed Solomon 02-22-2013 11:07 PM

Noel is great. True North will stick with him and we will win the Stanley Cup 11 times in a row.

sully1410 02-23-2013 12:51 AM

I hear alot of people talk on this board about how loyal True North is, and how thy are loyal to the people they hire....to a fault.

Loyalty...that's an interesting notion, lets talk about that shall we?

The only loyalty that this ownership group should be worried about is its loyalty to its fans. They have a duty and a responsibility to ice the best team that they. They have a responsibility to garner results for the fan base.

Maybe Im off base, but I EXPECT this team to make the playoffs; if not this year, then next. I EXPECT this team to win a Stanley Cup in the net few years...and I EXPECT this ownership group to do what is necessary to make that happen.

If they have to fire Pearn... **** just do it already. If Noel is working out. If they have to make some big trades and tough decisions. Fine. Do what you gotta do.

I, personally, will be up in arms if this is an ownership group that is unwilling to do that.

I've maintained my thought process from the beginning. They have 3-5years to make this team successful, and if they want to keep lining their pockets with cash...this team has to win. Plain and simple.

This Jets team does not have the luxury of putting together a bunch of losing seasons in a row.

They need to win.

So if Noel isn't getting it done...I'm not saying one way or tother, then he needs to go. Just because they hired the guy does not mean that they won't fire the guy if its not working.

This team is good enough to make the playoffs. I know it is. But sooner or later, having pro hockey back in the Peg won't be enough to get 90% of the population excited anymore. That loyalty just hasn't been grown yet.

truck 02-23-2013 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sully1410 (Post 60288807)
I hear alot of people talk on this board about how loyal True North is, and how thy are loyal to the people they hire....to a fault.

Loyalty...that's an interesting notion, lets talk about that shall we?

The only loyalty that this ownership group should be worried about is its loyalty to its fans. They have a duty and a responsibility to ice the best team that they. They have a responsibility to garner results for the fan base.

Maybe Im off base, but I EXPECT this team to make the playoffs; if not this year, then next. I EXPECT this team to win a Stanley Cup in the net few years...and I EXPECT this ownership group to do what is necessary to make that happen.

If they have to fire Pearn... **** just do it already. If Noel is working out. If they have to make some big trades and tough decisions. Fine. Do what you gotta do.

I, personally, will be up in arms if this is an ownership group that is unwilling to do that.

I've maintained my thought process from the beginning. They have 3-5years to make this team successful, and if they want to keep lining their pockets with cash...this team has to win. Plain and simple.

This Jets team does not have the luxury of putting together a bunch of losing seasons in a row.

They need to win.

So if Noel isn't getting it done...I'm not saying one way or tother, then he needs to go. Just because they hired the guy does not mean that they won't fire the guy if its not working.

This team is good enough to make the playoffs. I know it is. But sooner or later, having pro hockey back in the Peg won't be enough to get 90% of the population excited anymore. That loyalty just hasn't been grown yet.

No team should be expected to win the cup.

A cup win requires a combination of elite talent and good fortune. TNSE may build a greay team, but I don't expect them to control chance.

sully1410 02-23-2013 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truck (Post 60289069)
No team should be expected to win the cup.

A cup win requires a combination of elite talent and good fortune. TNSE may build a greay team, but I don't expect them to control chance.

Then why have the team?

You do not win the Stanley Cup by "luck". You win the cup with a combination of a well built team, skill, good coaching and all that.

They do control that. And Im sorry, but I expect them to do just that.

I'm unwilling to accept mediocrity, in any way shape or form.


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