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dbhislife 02-22-2013 01:37 PM

Calder Discussion thread
 
So last night was the 1/3 mark of the NHL season. As of now, who are your top 5 for the calder? Conacher leads in points, but Huberdeau surged into 1st in goals and +/- as of late. Is Fasth eligible? Can he put together enough of a resume to make a run at an award that's normally an offensive players to lose?

Shoryuken 02-22-2013 01:42 PM

Fasth is not eligible.

Dellstrom 02-22-2013 01:42 PM

Tarasenko, Conacher, Huberdeau, Hamilton, Schultz in no order. Haven't seen any of them besides Hamilton and Tarasenko enough to make a good judgement. I feel like I'm missing someone, too.

Fasth is 30 so he isn't eligible.

WilliamNylander 02-22-2013 01:43 PM

Huberdeau or conacher

dbhislife 02-22-2013 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dellstrom (Post 60255215)
Tarasenko, Conacher, Huberdeau, Hamilton, Schultz in no order. Haven't seen any of them besides Hamilton and Tarasenko enough to make a good judgement. I feel like I'm missing someone, too.

Fasth is 30 so he isn't eligible.

Damn I didn't realize he was that old. Should have googled that before posting.... oh wells.

I like the list. The only thing about the two kid D-men, is that both are minus right now. While +/- is certainly not the "be all, end all" of stats, you would want a D-man to be plus IMO to win the award. With Schultz it may be excusable because the team's +/- is comparably low, but Hamilton is a -3 on a team thats +8... I think I would have Gally ahead of him personally from the Habs.

Huberdeau's stats impress me more and more as I dive into them (I will admit that I am a Florida fan however). His shooting percentage is over 23%, and he's a plus player on a team thats a combined -18 right now. He also leads the team in goals besides just leading all rookies. I think he gets my vote (but again, I am bias).

sharks9 02-22-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dellstrom (Post 60255215)
Tarasenko, Conacher, Huberdeau, Hamilton, Schultz in no order. Haven't seen any of them besides Hamilton and Tarasenko enough to make a good judgement. I feel like I'm missing someone, too.

Fasth is 30 so he isn't eligible.

I'd say you're missing Galchenyuk out of that group.

And Galchenyuk has a better +/- than Huberdeau, +8 compared to +3.

Brendan Gallagher could also be in the discussion for the Calder too.

bdawg1989* 02-22-2013 01:53 PM

Kadri AINEC.

Bluesman91 02-22-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dellstrom (Post 60255215)
Tarasenko, Conacher, Huberdeau, Hamilton, Schultz in no order. Haven't seen any of them besides Hamilton and Tarasenko enough to make a good judgement. I feel like I'm missing someone, too.

Fasth is 30 so he isn't eligible.

Tarasenko will most likely be out of commission for enough time to remove him from the Calder race. Anyways for me it's between Huberdeau and Concacher. No knock on Galechenyuk but because of how well the Canadiens are playing as a team makes him look sort of invisible and because of how much center depth Montreal has. Flordia isn't that great of a team and Huberdeau already looks like one of the best players on the team already.

bdawg1989* 02-22-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman91 (Post 60256077)
Tarasenko will most likely be out of commission for enough time to remove him from the Calder race. Anyways for me it's between Huberdeau and Concacher. No knock on Galechenyuk but because of how well the Canadiens are playing as a team makes him look sort of invisible and because of how much center depth Montreal has. Flordia isn't that great of a team and Huberdeau already looks like one of the best players on the team already.

That doesnt make any sense. If anything, this should boost Galchenyuk's chances.

He is only a few points behind (I think it's 3) and plays 10/11 min per match on the third line...

Meanwhile, Huberdeau and Conacher have 1st line minutes (Conacher plays with Vinny, Stamkos, St-Louis) and even get PP time and still are only a few points ahead of him.

Bluesman91 02-22-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bdawg1989 (Post 60256183)
That doesnt make any sense. If anything, this should boost Galchenyuk's chances.

He is only a few points behind (I think it's 3) and plays 10/11 min per match on the third line...

Meanwhile, Huberdeau and Conacher have 1st line minutes (Conacher plays with Vinny, Stamkos, St-Louis) and even get PP time and still are only a few points ahead of him.

Thats the thing with these kind of awards though. Because Galechenyuk isn't playing first line right away, it gets made look like he isn't good enough. Which he certainly is but as I said, you guys have too much center depth lol.

radapex 02-22-2013 02:03 PM

I'd give the edge to Huberdeau right now. Leading all rookies in goals and second in points despite being on one of the lowest scoring teams in the league.

StarsFan74 02-22-2013 02:04 PM

Galchenyuk and Kadri have to be in the mix too.

DuckEatinShark 02-22-2013 02:04 PM

It sucks that Fasth isn't eligible. He would win this contest hands down right now.

Damien Brunner has been good. So has Conacher and Gally.

I think I'll give it to Hubs though.

dbhislife 02-22-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdawg1989 (Post 60256183)
That doesnt make any sense. If anything, this should boost Galchenyuk's chances.

He is only a few points behind (I think it's 3) and plays 10/11 min per match on the third line...

Meanwhile, Huberdeau and Conacher have 1st line minutes (Conacher plays with Vinny, Stamkos, St-Louis) and even get PP time and still are only a few points ahead of him.

Huberdeau does not play on the top line. In fact both he and Conacher only average a minute or so more ice time a game than Gally does. So yeah... there goes that.

KPower 02-22-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 60256479)
Galchenyuk and Kadri have to be in the mix too.

Kadri is not eligible.

Bluesman91 02-22-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 60256479)
Galchenyuk and Kadri have to be in the mix too.

Kadri hasn't been eligible since 2010 when he played 15 games. Since then he's played 69 NHL games

dbhislife 02-22-2013 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StarsFan74 (Post 60256479)
Galchenyuk and Kadri have to be in the mix too.

Kadri isn't eligible is he? When you filter NHL.com for rookie scoring he gets omitted...

Linden* 02-22-2013 02:12 PM

conacher, Schultz, or Hubredeau

dark horse is Galchenyuk for me

amnesiac 02-22-2013 02:14 PM

You all forgot Jonas Brodin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluesman91 (Post 60256665)
Kadri hasn't been eligible since 2010 when he played 15 games. Since then he's played 69 NHL games

youre not eligible after 25 NHL games...

he played 1 game in 09-10, and 29 in 10-11

PariseSuterKoivu 02-22-2013 02:21 PM

Brodin won't have the numbers, but's he's playing as good as any rookie.

hatterson 02-22-2013 02:22 PM

To review the requirements:

- 25 or younger on September 15th 2012
- No more than 25 regular season games played in any single previous season
- No more than 6 regular season games played in any 2 previous seasons.
- No limit on cumulative games played as long as the previous conditions are met.

Theoretically a player could play 61 games spread over 8 seasons and still be eligible for the calder in his 8th season by going 6 (age 18), 6, 6, 6, 6, 6 (age 23), 25 (age 24), Eligible in age 25 season

Bluesman91 02-22-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by intylerwetrust (Post 60257125)
You all forgot Jonas Brodin



youre not eligible after 25 NHL games...

he played 1 game in 09-10, and 29 in 10-11

Sorry that I was 10 games off. Still ineligible. Even after those 2 seasons.

Jacko95 02-22-2013 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdawg1989 (Post 60256183)
That doesnt make any sense. If anything, this should boost Galchenyuk's chances.

He is only a few points behind (I think it's 3) and plays 10/11 min per match on the third line...

Meanwhile, Huberdeau and Conacher have 1st line minutes (Conacher plays with Vinny, Stamkos, St-Louis) and even get PP time and still are only a few points ahead of him.

As said before Conacher and Huberdeau play only a minute more than Galchenyuk.

At first Tampa has no linesystem, the only "line" existing on a regular basis is the Hedman-Salo duo.
Conacher has already played alongside pretty much every Tampa forward (except Hall and Crombeen maybe) I think it's quit an accomplishment for his great play to play with Stammer and MSL most of the time. And he fits perfectly to the two. He plays in the dirty areas and battles for the puck, something Stammer doesn't do that often and it isn't MSL favorite job as well.

Ghetto Sangria 02-22-2013 02:33 PM

Galchenyuk shouldn't be in the running imo. He's been the best 2012 draftee old this season, but compared to Huberdeau and Conacher who are putting up better numbers playing tougher minutes, he shouldn't be in the running. Gallagher is more likely to be in the running but I still see Hamilton surging late.

Huberdeau, Conacher, hamilton for me

EDIT: just realized Hamiton and hubs are 19... I meant Gally has been the best 2012 draftee

LSnow 02-22-2013 02:42 PM

Galchenyuk leads all Montreal players on EV production and +-. That is pretty impressive considering his ice-time and Montreal being 1st of the east.


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