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hlaverty06 02-22-2013 09:51 PM

Vinny Prospal
 
Is he trade-able to CBJ if they are out of it at the deadline?

What would CBJ want?

Fro 02-22-2013 10:04 PM

Vinny has a handshake deal with the team that he will sign a series of 1 yr contracts with a NTC until he's ready to retire and take over a spot in the Front Office...now that was with Howson, no word if Davidson is planning to honor that deal

Cu Culann 02-22-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fro (Post 60278583)
Vinny has a handshake deal with the team that he will sign a series of 1 yr contracts with a NTC until he's ready to retire and take over a spot in the Front Office...now that was with Howson, no word if Davidson is planning to honor that deal

Link? Vancouver could use a veteran playmaker like Vinny. Lowball bid: a 3rd. Don't think there would be much more than that.

Mayor Bee 02-22-2013 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cu Culann (Post 60281185)
Link? Vancouver could use a veteran playmaker like Vinny. Lowball bid: a 3rd. Don't think there would be much more than that.

There could be as many as 25 teams looking at buy at the deadline. If someone seriously wanted Prospal, and I would expect several teams to want him, the bidding will be extremely high.

I can't imagine a GM of a team with a rapidly-closing window to contend having to tell his fans that, "We're sorry we fell short of winning a Cup and now have to rebuild. We just couldn't trade a draft pick that would be used on a guy who won't be in the NHL before 2016."

Cu Culann 02-22-2013 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayor Bee (Post 60281745)
There could be as many as 25 teams looking at buy at the deadline. If someone seriously wanted Prospal, and I would expect several teams to want him, the bidding will be extremely high.

I can't imagine a GM of a team with a rapidly-closing window to contend having to tell his fans that, "We're sorry we fell short of winning a Cup and now have to rebuild. We just couldn't trade a draft pick that would be used on a guy who won't be in the NHL before 2016."

That's fine. I can't imagine the GM of a team like Columbus would get anything other than a kings ransom. Don't think Prospal is the piece that puts us over the top, was only kicking tires. You have successfully destroyed my interest. Thanks for the offer.

Mayor Bee 02-22-2013 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cu Culann (Post 60282573)
That's fine. I can't imagine the GM of a team like Columbus would get anything other than a kings ransom. Don't think Prospal is the piece that puts us over the top, was only kicking tires. You have successfully destroyed my interest. Thanks for the offer.

I actually used my exact phrasing a couple days ago to describe San Jose, who looks to be floating around "could be great, could go all the way, or could drop to 7th and get swept in the first round" territory. And with their farm system having long-term projects but few surefire NHLers on the horizon, combined with a rapidly aging and declining NHL roster, it certainly applies to them.

Kris Chreider 02-22-2013 11:17 PM

Columbus could get a 1st+ at the deadline. Tell GMs their division rivals are outbidding them even if they aren't.

Benedict Kovalchuk 02-22-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fro (Post 60278583)
Vinny has a handshake deal with the team that he will sign a series of 1 yr contracts with a NTC until he's ready to retire and take over a spot in the Front Office...now that was with Howson, no word if Davidson is planning to honor that deal

Good! Columbus needs a veteran and leader like Prospal, he'll go a long way for them. From what I remember he was a great help last year. Plus it's nice to see Columbus set him up post-retirement like that. :handclap:

chunkbox 02-23-2013 09:54 AM

i love Vinny and value him as one of the handful of players we have that i want to keep here ...

that being said i HIGHLY doubt we could convince another GM to give up a first rounder for him ... ( not that i wouldn't love that trade )

just can't see that happening

Nikko* 02-23-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayor Bee (Post 60283017)
I actually used my exact phrasing a couple days ago to describe San Jose, who looks to be floating around "could be great, could go all the way, or could drop to 7th and get swept in the first round" territory. And with their farm system having long-term projects but few surefire NHLers on the horizon, combined with a rapidly aging and declining NHL roster, it certainly applies to them.

Well if you're talking about San Jose they they could just as easily get swept in the first round with the 1 seed.

drizzydrew22* 02-25-2013 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hlaverty06 (Post 60277765)
Is he trade-able to CBJ if they are out of it at the deadline?

What would CBJ want?

7th round from the pens to see if he could fill that LW slot on the second line with malkin and neal

SoftEuro4thLiner 02-25-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by drizzydrew22 (Post 60430609)
7th round from the pens to see if he could fill that LW slot on the second line with malkin and neal

Troll.

1st in the 20-30 range + mid tier prospect with bottom pairing/bottom 6 potential
Or
2nd + 3rd + mid tier prospect
IMO, there will be a lot of buyers.

Double-Shift Lassť 02-25-2013 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Cu Culann (Post 60281185)
Link? Vancouver could use a veteran playmaker like Vinny. Lowball bid: a 3rd. Don't think there would be much more than that.

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/...extension.html

Quote:

The deal is worth $2.5 million and includes a no-trade clause. It also includes a gentleman's agreement that when Prospal's playing days are over, he'll stay with the organization in some capacity.

"When we started talking, we asked him if he wanted to stay and be a leader, to stay here beyond playing and take a role with the organization," Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson told The Dispatch. "He really likes it here. His family likes it here. He's enjoyed his role mentoring the young players, and you've seen the energy and passion he brings to everything he does, every practice and every game."

Prospal's post-career role has not been defined. First off, nobody can say how much longer he'll play. As long as he's healthy and productive, Howson said, the two sides will work on one-year extensions.
Before anyone gets into the whole "yeah but that was with Howson" -- before thanking me for the asked-for link...

We know. There has been no public indication of whether or not current FO leadership will honor that agreement. I have to believe it's been discussed, though. I know if I were Vinny, I would have asked the question.

drizzydrew22* 02-25-2013 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SoftEuro4thLiner (Post 60431131)
Troll.

1st in the 20-30 range + mid tier prospect with bottom pairing/bottom 6 potential
Or
2nd + 3rd + mid tier prospect
IMO, there will be a lot of buyers.

i didnt mean any disrespect to that offer i just know hes a soft player and would just need a filler for the pens second line after looking closely at his stats and stuff i would prolly give it a 3rd 2013 pick and a low prospect

Mayor Bee 02-25-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by drizzydrew22 (Post 60431399)
i didnt mean any disrespect to that offer i just know hes a soft player and would just need a filler for the pens second line after looking closely at his stats and stuff i would prolly give it a 3rd 2013 pick and a low prospect

Well, then I'm sure someone else will "prolly" offer more.


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