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Cory Trevor 02-23-2013 03:32 AM

Who is the 5th best NHL player of all time?
 
I saw an article the other day about the top five players and someone had Tretiak. I was thinking in terms of just the NHL though. Sorry, another one of these threads but a friend of mine were having a childish fight about it :laugh:. Top four in no order are the obvious ones, Gretz, Mario, Orr, Howe. That fifth slot to me seems TBD.

MapleLeafs9 02-23-2013 03:34 AM

Mark Messier?

Senor Catface 02-23-2013 03:37 AM

Maurice Richard, Bobby Hull, Jean Beliveau all pop to mind.

MoobMoob 02-23-2013 03:37 AM

Maurice

Nanabijou 02-23-2013 03:38 AM

The Rocket.

http://www.ericksontribune.com/wp-co...ketrichard.jpg

jojoh07* 02-23-2013 03:47 AM

yzerman is up there if you ask me

jBuds 02-23-2013 03:54 AM

Mo rocket and mess are the first names that come to mind

Kegsey 02-23-2013 03:57 AM

Why not a goalie? What Brodeur has done for NJ is legendary.

wunderpanda 02-23-2013 04:00 AM

Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th

Syckle78 02-23-2013 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegsey (Post 60291313)
Why not a goalie? What Brodeur has done for NJ is legendary.

If it's a goalie it's definitely not Broduer. He might be fifth best goalie, but not player.

HF007 02-23-2013 04:02 AM

Bobby hull

Syckle78 02-23-2013 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wunderpanda (Post 60291345)
Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th

I'm, wow. That's definitely some unique rankings.

mrhockey193195 02-23-2013 04:30 AM

This is a question that has been covered numerous times on the History of Hockey board, so you can find answers with a great level of detail and effort behind them over there. To keep it short, my answer is Bobby Hull...but you can find valid arguments for guys like Richard, Beliveau, Shore, and Harvey.

Imlach a cup 02-23-2013 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syckle78 (Post 60291357)
If it's a goalie it's definitely not Broduer. He might be fifth best goalie, but not player.

I'll throw my chips for Hasek as number 5 :)

If not him Maurice Richard or Eddie Shore

unknown33 02-23-2013 04:39 AM

Bobby Hull, Jean Beliveau or Doug Harvey.

bluetib 02-23-2013 04:47 AM

Phil Esposito

RomersWorld* 02-23-2013 04:48 AM

http://llnw.wbez.org/blog/insert-ima...bobby-hull.jpg

Cory Trevor 02-23-2013 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrhockey193195 (Post 60291519)
This is a question that has been covered numerous times on the History of Hockey board, so you can find answers with a great level of detail and effort behind them over there. To keep it short, my answer is Bobby Hull...but you can find valid arguments for guys like Richard, Beliveau, Shore, and Harvey.

I did search it and there were plenty of arguments either way however sometimes it was difficult to make heads or tails of it. Figured on this side we might get a different, if anything a more exposed opinion of what the collective minds of hockey junkies think.

Dysentery 02-23-2013 04:57 AM

The Rocket.

Count Von Grabo* 02-23-2013 05:18 AM

Bobby Hull

DamonDRW 02-23-2013 05:23 AM

Bobby Hull. Counting his WHA career he scored more than 900 goals implying that he had a chance to be the first in scoring.

He can also be cosidered as best of all time.

PS Didn't see luch of Orr tapes compared to, say, Hull but something tells me he is a bit overhyped. It is American culture to love one single moment not the whole career.

fashi13 02-23-2013 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wunderpanda (Post 60291345)
Gretzky, Orr, Howe i agree with but I rank Messier and Chelios above Mario. Maybe Lidstrom 5th and Mario 6th

No way, as a lifelong Caps fan who absolutely hated/hates the penguins, Mario is the most talented/dominate hockey player ever. He should never be lower than 2.

SilverSeven 02-23-2013 05:48 AM

Messier, even though this board cant stand him.

Syckle78 02-23-2013 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamonDRW (Post 60291859)
Bobby Hull. Counting his WHA career he scored more than 900 goals implying that he had a chance to be the first in scoring.

He can also be cosidered as best of all time.

PS Didn't see luch of Orr tapes compared to, say, Hull but something tells me he is a bit overhyped. It is American culture to love one single moment not the whole career.

Ignoring the fact that it's a goofy assertion to claim what Americans like and it's not usually Americans ranking players. What's the single moment that over hypes Orr?

BTW it's pretty much the entirety of Howes career that makes him a legend. So that flies in the face of your theory.

Regal 02-23-2013 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamonDRW (Post 60291859)
Bobby Hull. Counting his WHA career he scored more than 900 goals implying that he had a chance to be the first in scoring.

He can also be cosidered as best of all time.

PS Didn't see luch of Orr tapes compared to, say, Hull but something tells me he is a bit overhyped. It is American culture to love one single moment not the whole career.

I think he's one of those guys where the romanticism of what he could do gets a bit out of hand at times, but he won eight consecutive Norris trophies, two Art Ross trophies as a defenseman, and statistically dominated GF/GA numbers when he was on the ice. There's questions about the competition level of the era he played in, but what he was able to do was amazing beyond a single moment.


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