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Schenn Bros Pizza* 02-24-2013 05:09 AM

Scott Hartnell
 
I know he will not be moved, etc.

Just want to know his value.

I've always been a huge fan of Jamie Benn. Who would have to add ?

Lord Flacko* 02-24-2013 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kangiroux (Post 60364721)
I know he will not be moved, etc.

Just want to know his value.

I've always been a huge fan of Jamie Benn. Who would have to add ?

It's pretty obvious who would have to add if Benn was getting traded for Hartnell.

markisonfire 02-24-2013 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JATT187 (Post 60364755)
It's pretty obvious who would have to add if Benn was getting traded for Hartnell.

And the answer is that the Flyers would have to add, because Benn is a much better player than Hartnell... and seven years younger.

KEEROLE Vatanen 02-24-2013 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangiroux (Post 60364721)
I know he will not be moved, etc.

Just want to know his value.

I've always been a huge fan of Jamie Benn. Who would have to add ?

Flyers better be adding Schenn or Coutourier

Sasso09 02-24-2013 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OccupySheen (Post 60365259)
Flyers better be adding Schenn or Coutourier

Flyers definitely add to Hartnell to get Benn, but they're certainly not adding Schenn or Couturier.

Captain Smurf 02-24-2013 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasso09 (Post 60365949)
Flyers definitely add to Hartnell to get Benn, but they're certainly not adding Schenn or Couturier.

They'd have to if they want the Stars to move their Franchise player. Not saying the Flyers wouldn't be overpaying, but they'd have to if they want Benn.

ayshplaysh 02-24-2013 08:26 AM

Jamie Benn? I guess the Flyers could use another center.

19NYSports91 02-24-2013 08:28 AM

Why would the Flyers want to trade for a center when they have Sean "The Superstar" Couturier?

supert 02-24-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangiroux (Post 60364721)
I know he will not be moved, etc.

Just want to know his value.

I've always been a huge fan of Jamie Benn. Who would have to add ?

What do the Flyer want for him . As an Oiler fan I would pay alot . Whitney , to use for the rest of the year . A D prospect and our 2 rd pick maybe both of our second rd +

Hockeypete49 02-24-2013 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 19NYSports91 (Post 60366397)
Why would the Flyers want to trade for a center when they have Sean "The Superstar" Couturier?

He would sure help the "Hartless" rangers.

orange is better 02-24-2013 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 19NYSports91 (Post 60366397)
Why would the Flyers want to trade for a center when they have Sean "The Superstar" Couturier?

Yeah, you're right. Not every team has a Chris "will score 40 goals next season" Kreider

PayItForward 02-24-2013 12:06 PM

Dallas isn't trading Benn.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hockeypete49 (Post 60366633)
He would sure help the "Hartless" rangers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange is better (Post 60374037)
Yeah, you're right. Not every team has a Chris "will score 40 goals next season" Kreider

Nice comebacks against an Islanders fan.

blinds 02-24-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayItForward (Post 60374383)
Dallas isn't trading Benn.





Nice comebacks against an Islanders fan.

Oh.. Islanders.. Does anything else need to be said?

I don't think this trade could ever happen, but if it did flyers would need to add. Hartnell + Laughton + 2nd?

Sasso09 02-24-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blinds (Post 60377117)
Oh.. Islanders.. Does anything else need to be said?

I don't think this trade could ever happen, but if it did flyers would need to add. Hartnell + Laughton + 2nd?

I don't think Dallas does it... But it's even value IMO... Very even. It'll take overpayment for Benn

Mr Misty 02-24-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasso09 (Post 60379131)
I don't think Dallas does it... But it's even value IMO... Very even. It'll take overpayment for Benn

Dallas doesn't, won't trade Benn, and that isn't even close to value.

Sasso09 02-24-2013 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Misty (Post 60379191)
Dallas doesn't, won't trade Benn, and that isn't even close to value.

It certainly is

Psycho Papa Joe 02-24-2013 01:58 PM

If the Flyers called about Benn, if I'm Dallas I ask for one of two packages:

A) Giroux
B) Schenn and Couturier.

When the flyers decline, and offer up Hartnell+ instead, I hang up the phone.

HooliganX2 02-24-2013 02:12 PM

Hartnell is a good player that most teams would love to add for a cup run. That being said he is not the type of player a team will trade a young core player for. Him being the center piece for a player like Benn just will never happen. Hartnell is the type of player a team competing for the cup now trades for. He'd most likely get a 1st from a contender and a good but not Blue chip Prospect or maybe a young 3rd liner with some upside.

Pretty much the answer to your question is Hartnell could never be the center piece to trade for a player like Benn.

Mr Misty 02-24-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sasso09 (Post 60379499)
It certainly is

A complementary winger, a center prospect, and a 2nd? Benn isn't a young core player, he is THE young core. What a joke.

Schenn Bros Pizza* 02-24-2013 03:31 PM

This thread wasnt about Benn, it was just an example Ive had in mine.

Basically, what would you offer for Scotty H?

LandofLincoln 02-25-2013 01:11 AM

A mid first and mid 2nd round pick

XO 02-25-2013 01:15 AM

Jesus, people are undervaluing Benn big time..

WeekendAtBernies 02-25-2013 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supert (Post 60366599)
What do the Flyer want for him . As an Oiler fan I would pay alot . Whitney , to use for the rest of the year . A D prospect and our 2 rd pick maybe both of our second rd +

A bunch of trash for a 35 goal scorer isn't "alot"

Whitney is useless right now, he's been a healthy scratch how many times?

2nd round picks are throw ins used to even up value

The only potentially good thing would be one of your D prospects, but that's simply not enough.

Avs44 02-25-2013 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasso09 (Post 60379499)
It certainly is

No, it really is not.



Benn is a 23 year old top young forward, who will only get better, and he is Dallas' franchise player on top of that.


A 30 year old Hartnell, a good prospect, and a 2nd, is not fair value for Benn.

WeekendAtBernies 02-25-2013 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sasso09 (Post 60379131)
I don't think Dallas does it... But it's even value IMO... Very even. It'll take overpayment for Benn

First off, it's ridiculous to discuss because Benn is the franchise, he's not moving out of Dallas after they got the contract issue resolved.

Second off, I don't think Hartnell + Laughton + 2nd is too far off, but I still think it's a little light for Benn (and I'm a Flyers fan). "Fair" value is probably Hartnell + Laughton + 1st. But honestly, that trade makes no sense for either team.

I agree with you though that Hartnell + Couturier or Hartnell + Schenn is far too much and is ridiculous. Schenn alone is on track to meet/surpass Benn's 2nd season in the league.


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