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CAPITAL PUNISHMENT 02-25-2013 11:48 AM

Erskine re-signed: 2 years, $3.925 million
 
http://wshca.ps/13JK8AD

IkeaMonkey* 02-25-2013 11:49 AM

joke thread?

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT 02-25-2013 11:50 AM

check the link..

Liberati0n* 02-25-2013 11:52 AM

Wow. Horrible contract.

BobRouse 02-25-2013 11:52 AM

I have zero problem with this. Great to see Erskine rewarded and knowing he will be on board for the next couple seasons.

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT 02-25-2013 11:54 AM

seems a bit high for the coming Salary Cap drop, but I'd rather have him in the lineup than some of the other D fillers we have.

Hivemind 02-25-2013 11:58 AM

Nearly $2M a year for a 32 year old #6 defenseman who has trouble staying ahead of Jeff Schutlz on the depth chart. What could possibly go wrong?

Awful deal, McPhee. I realize the Caps need some bodies on defense next year, but this is not the price the Caps should be paying for Erskine with the salary cap coming down.

BobRouse 02-25-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewwegand (Post 60441825)
seems a bit high for the coming Salary Cap drop, but I'd rather have him in the lineup than some of the other D fillers we have.

He would have got that and more as a UFA from some other team guaranteed. UFAs (for instance his replacement should we have let him walk) are the ones who get hyper inflated contracts. Joel Ward is an example.

I love Brandon Prust..but he is not a true enforcer and is a very very good 4th liner. He got 10 million over 4 years as a UFA. There are many many more examples of overpaid UFAs that have contracts FAR worse than this.

If you want a reasonable contract then you either keep your own, use a young player you drafted or give up assets in a trade for one.

Liberati0n* 02-25-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystlyfe (Post 60442023)
Nearly $2M a year for a 32 year old #6 defenseman who has trouble staying ahead of Jeff Schutlz on the depth chart. What could possibly go wrong?

Awful deal, McPhee. I realize the Caps need some bodies on defense next year, but this is not the price the Caps should be paying for Erskine with the salary cap coming down.

It's absolutely terrible. There's no way Erskine was in a position to demand a ~33% raise.

More important, in the face of a clear need for more mobile defensemen, McPhee signed an immobile player who should be the #6-7 to a contract that suggests he should at least be an everyday player. It makes no sense.

Brad Tolliver 02-25-2013 12:10 PM

GMGM probably got blueballs from having to wait almost half a year to overpay another role player in both money and term. Erskine playing on the 2nd pairing for a few games just happened to give him an excuse to blow his wad.

Not even 3 years ago they would rather trust Tyler Sloan than Erskine as an injury replacement against the Habs. Erskine was still the same player then.

BobRouse 02-25-2013 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberati0n (Post 60442499)
It's absolutely terrible. There's no way Erskine was in a position to demand a ~33% raise.

More important, in the face of a clear need for more mobile defensemen, McPhee signed a player who should be the #6-7 to a contract that suggests he should at least be an everyday player. It makes no sense.

Wrong. If he hit the UFA market there would be several teams in line for his services and he would have made north of $2 mil per for at least 1 more year.

Many seem to certainly underestimate him here. The guy is absolutely a legit heavy weight who can PLAY in this new NHL. Thats a pretty rare combo. He hits, fights, gives 100% and clears the crease.

Reminds me of 2 of my personal favorite Caps in Bob Rouse and Mark Tinordi. Limited skaters who gave 100%, hit everything in sight, had no hesitation to drop the gloves and competed with intensity.

BiPolar Caps 02-25-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberati0n (Post 60442499)
It's absolutely terrible. There's no way Erskine was in a position to demand a ~33% raise.

More important, in the face of a clear need for more mobile defensemen, McPhee signed an immobile player who should be the #6-7 to a contract that suggests he should at least be an everyday player. It makes no sense.

You want to keep your mobile defensemen on the ice along with some others, then you need a John Erskine out there as well to keep the opponent honest. Matt Hendricks can only have his helmet pummeled so many times.

strungout 02-25-2013 12:13 PM

No problem at all with this contact.

Schultz? Always been a problem.

Erskine. No problem.

tycoonheart 02-25-2013 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strungout (Post 60442879)
No problem at all with this contact.

Schultz? Always been a problem.

Erskine. No problem.

Word.

Stewie G 02-25-2013 12:20 PM

Ooof. It's like Brooks Laich all over again. They're in no man's land. Erskine isn't good enough to be a regular #4, but is a decent #6 plus heavy. Just like Laich isn't a 2C or, in my book, a quality 2LW. Spend the extra bucks and get a true #4. Don't try to shoehorn the guy into a spot and pay him nearly full price.

Liberati0n* 02-25-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ref9 (Post 60442855)
You want to keep your mobile defensemen on the ice along with some others, then you need a John Erskine out there as well to keep the opponent honest. Matt Hendricks can only have his helmet pummeled so many times.

Did I say I wanted Erskine off the team?

I want him on the team, in the role he's suited for, which is the #7.

swimmer77 02-25-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ref9 (Post 60442855)
You want to keep your mobile defensemen on the ice along with some others, then you need a John Erskine out there as well to keep the opponent honest. Matt Hendricks can only have his helmet pummeled so many times.

And Erskine's presence prevented Green from getting injured how?

Can't really comment one way or the other about Erskine until I see how the rest of the D is constructed for next year. Then I'll decide whether it's a waste or a good move. Definitely better than Schultz though.

Erskine has been okay. Just weird how one coach virtually saw no value and another has him playing top 4 minutes. I hope his shoulder holds out for the long haul though.

NobodyBeatsTheWiz 02-25-2013 12:25 PM

Alzner-Green/new RD
LD-Carlson
Erskine-Orlov

I can deal with that defensive group. Trade Kundratek+ to get a real LD for the top-4.

G3 LesPaul 02-25-2013 12:27 PM

All the hate while erskine has been are best d-man all year.

Yet we still have green and Carlson turning the puck over every second

BobRouse 02-25-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimmer77 (Post 60443325)
And Erskine's presence prevented Green from getting injured how?

Can't really comment one way or the other about Erskine until I see how the rest of the D is constructed for next year. Then I'll decide whether it's a waste or a good move. Definitely better than Schultz though.

Erskine has been okay. Just weird how one coach virtually saw no value and another has him playing top 4 minutes. I hope his shoulder holds out for the long haul though.

BB liked Erskine and Hanlon used him too. For some reason Hunter didn't like him.

But then again..Hunter absolutely LOVED him some Dennis Wideman and put Keith Aucoin on PP1 over Semin.

RandyHolt 02-25-2013 12:33 PM

Erskine is moving on up. A modern day Bob Rouse class D man.

Hammer and Poti should be gone. Sarge, no way in hell.

Alzner Green | Erskine Carlson | Sarge Kundratek
Hillen

brs03 02-25-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G3 LesPaul (Post 60443585)
All the hate while erskine has been are best d-man all year.

Yet we still have green and Carlson turning the puck over every second

Erskine hasn't been the Caps' best Dman at all this year. In terms of chance differential he's been their worst, in fact (well, ahead of Hillen but he had like 3 shifts so I don't know if he should count). Caps get more shots for and fewer shots against when he's not on the ice.

Granted, he's used in moderately tough minutes so I won't say he's been their worst or anything, and I like the other aspects of his game. But no, he hasn't been their best Dman this season. :laugh:

Hivemind 02-25-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobRouse (Post 60442799)
Wrong. If he hit the UFA market there would be several teams in line for his services and he would have made north of $2 mil per for at least 1 more year.

Matt Carkner got 3 years x $1.5M.
Cory Sarich got 2 years x $2M.
Shane O'Brien got 3 years x $2M.

And those were in a $70M salary cap. I don't see how Erskine was going to command more than what we gave him in free agency. McPhee paid full market price for him.

Zoidberg Jesus 02-25-2013 12:34 PM

Just another patented GMGM "good soldier" contract. I can live with it if it means Schultz is gone.

CapitalsCupFantasy 02-25-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoidberg Jesus (Post 60443953)
Just another patented GMGM "good soldier" contract. I can live with it if it means Schultz is gone.

This....


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