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fibonacci* 02-26-2013 11:37 AM

Getting Kronwalled
 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk3qIjz5EDM

is it just me or does he leave his feet on over half those hits?

Dr Gonzo 02-26-2013 11:41 AM

There's a difference between jumping before a hit, and succumbing to Newton's third law of motion once the hit is initiated.

PRNuck 02-26-2013 11:42 AM

Gotta keep your head up.

Mr Tarkanian 02-26-2013 11:45 AM

:nopity: Keep your head up, it is a contact sport after all.

Meob 02-26-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gonzo (Post 60505501)
There's a difference between jumping before a hit, and succumbing to Newton's third law of motion once the hit is initiated.

newton's third law doesn't force you to go up. he is rising in most of the hits. the second hit near the beginning, he is clearly in the air before any contact.

Burke the Legend 02-26-2013 11:56 AM

Kronwall is a cheapshot artist, opportunist, high hitter.

Dr Gonzo 02-26-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Meob (Post 60505753)
newton's third law doesn't force you to go up. he is rising in most of the hits. the second hit near the beginning, he is clearly in the air before any contact.

Not necessarily, but as is evidenced by roughly 90% (made up number) of all big hits, the hitter ends up airborne after the point of contact.

Gustav Nyquist 02-26-2013 12:02 PM

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure he's given up on hitting altogether.

Syckle78 02-26-2013 12:04 PM

Kronwall is reviled. Stevens is revered. Never stop being you, hfboards.

Devilspuppet666 02-26-2013 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fibonacci (Post 60505307)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk3qIjz5EDM

is it just me or does he leave his feet on over half those hits?

i only really noticed one that was questionable but even then

birddog* 02-26-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Gonzo (Post 60505501)
There's a difference between jumping before a hit, and succumbing to Newton's third law of motion once the hit is initiated.

There are a few he's jumps. Slow it down for yourself.

Bob Probert Owns You 02-26-2013 12:20 PM

What a beautiful video.

Geo73 02-26-2013 12:20 PM

He leaves his feet on #3, 8 & 9 of the top 10. No issue with any of the rest of them. You can explode upwards into a hit without your skates coming off the ice, but those three he definitely jumps into in my view.

CloneHakanPlease* 02-26-2013 12:33 PM

As a Detroit fan I wish he was half the cheap shot artist as you guys claim. Maybe then he'd lay a hit once every 15 games instead of every 30.

Edit: I'm not saying the hits aren't dirty, since some of them are borderline, but the amount of discussion this guy gets in comparison to amount of dangerous plays he commits is ridiculous. Kronwall is NOT a physical defensemen in most cases. Laying a moderately borderline illegal highlight level hit every half season is no where near as damaging as players with "truculence" who spear and do less noticeable instances every single game.

Frozen Fiend 02-26-2013 12:45 PM

You learn very early on if you skate up with your head down you're gonna get run. Every player knows it. Kronwall plays right along the edge. That's what makes him a great hitter.

He hasn't laid any big hits this season though, so the timing of this thread makes me laugh.

Kovifan27 02-26-2013 12:47 PM

I really hate Detroit but the most he's guilty of is maybe charging.

Every once and awhile he leaves the ice before a hit but its so rare.

GrandChelems 02-26-2013 12:48 PM

I'm neither here nor there if this is a debate, but do find it odd that he checks with his back so much. I'd imagine his kidneys'd be in a dumpster behind a rink by the time he was 16 if he tried developing that technique in Canada as a youngster.

probertrules24 02-26-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandChelems (Post 60508845)
I'm neither here nor there if this is a debate, but do find it odd that he checks with his back so much. I'd imagine his kidneys'd be in a dumpster behind a rink by the time he was 16 if he tried developing that technique in Canada as a youngster.

You noticed him switch to that style of hitting when a lot of guys started getting called for elbows and targeting the head. A lot of the time its a judgment call of the ref and by leading with your backside there is no way your elbowing or sticking your shoulder into a players head.

birddog* 02-26-2013 01:00 PM

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He jumps...lots more like this.

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Epsilon 02-26-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by birddog (Post 60509547)
He jumps...lots more like this.

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Holy misleading screenshots, Batman!

elias026 02-26-2013 01:04 PM

The only thing the OP video proved was that Kronwall could be the one if not the best open ice hitter in the NHL

TheSituation 02-26-2013 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Gonzo (Post 60505501)
There's a difference between jumping before a hit, and succumbing to Newton's third law of motion once the hit is initiated.

On the and Miettinen and Heatley hits, he definitely left his feed before contact. The Havlat hit is questionable.

tarheelhockey 02-26-2013 01:18 PM

He's basically the modern day Ulf Samuelsson. Everyone can see that he's jumping into his hits. If he wasn't doing it, there wouldn't be a constant issue over it.

And no, a screenshot of him with the tips of his blades making slight contact with the ice does not prove that he had both feet "planted firmly" at the time of the hit.

joseph_kerr 02-26-2013 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syckle78 (Post 60506605)
Kronwall is reviled. Stevens is revered. Never stop being you, hfboards.

Stevens was a tough guy that backed up his play with his fists. Kornwall just wants to play a tough guy on tv.

I love hitting but I think if you want to run around smearing people you need to answer the bell. That's as much a part of hockey as hitting to me.

Or even better get rid of a lot of this armor the Kronwalls and Ulfs have always hid behind. Lose the turtle shells and see who wants to take the damage.

icKx 02-26-2013 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tarheelhockey (Post 60510583)
Everyone can see that he's jumping into his hits. If he wasn't doing it, there wouldn't be a constant issue over it.

Yeah, because internet ******** is some kind of irrefutable evidence :laugh:


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