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MooseOllini 02-26-2013 02:20 PM

Nhl realignment includes four divisions, wild card teams
 
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=416887

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/lnh/la-r%C3...forme-1.589684

Red wings in our division !

Habtchum* 02-26-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BobBarker (Post 60513917)

16 teams in the East and only 14 in the West ?

Does it mean that IF there is an expansion or relocation, two new teams will be out west (Seattle, KC ???) ? No Quebec City with 16 teams in the East.

MooseOllini 02-26-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Habtchum (Post 60514519)
16 teams in the East and only 14 in the West ?

Does it mean that IF there is an expansion or relocation, two new teams will be out west (Seattle, KC ???) ? No Quebec City with 16 teams in the East.

No. My guess is they would relocate the wings and/or the jackets in the west.

dkdanielkli 02-26-2013 02:41 PM

The dumbest system I've seen so far.
What I'd do is cancel all Conferences and Divisions. I'd make a league where each team would face all other teams once at home and once away which makes it 29*2=58 game only. Then the 3rd game between both teams will be drawn (its location). At the end we'll have 87 games per team per season. TOP 16 teams make the playoffs when 1vs16, 2vs15 etc..

Agnostic 02-26-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Habtchum (Post 60514519)
16 teams in the East and only 14 in the West ?

Does it mean that IF there is an expansion or relocation, two new teams will be out west (Seattle, KC ???) ? No Quebec City with 16 teams in the East.

At first glance i like the Habs division from excitement standpoint.
At second glance it looks like it just got harder for the Habs to make the playoffs by comparison to west teams.

la25ecoupe 02-26-2013 02:50 PM

****, more playoff within division.. man boring.. we would never see Habs Detroit for stanley cup finals.. nor Habs vs Boston.. nor Habs vs Leafs..

Man, would be nice to face Chicago, first round, Vancouver 2nd round, Anaheim 3rd round and Detroit 4th round for a change no?

Miller Time 02-26-2013 02:58 PM

do not like the playoff format at all...

should be a conference-wide playoffs from the first round.


and don't like that we're stuck with 16 teams to compete with for 8 playoff spots, whereas the western conference gets 8 spots from 14 teams... wild card spots should be league wide, not 2 from each conference.

nilan30 02-26-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by la25ecoupe (Post 60515543)
****, more playoff within division.. man boring.. we would never see Habs Detroit for stanley cup finals.. nor Habs vs Boston.. nor Habs vs Leafs..

Man, would be nice to face Chicago, first round, Vancouver 2nd round, Anaheim 3rd round and Detroit 4th round for a change no?

A change would be making it past the 2nd or 3rd round. Personally I love in divison playoffs each year.

Pigems* 02-26-2013 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Habtchum (Post 60514519)
16 teams in the East and only 14 in the West ?

Does it mean that IF there is an expansion or relocation, two new teams will be out west (Seattle, KC ???) ? No Quebec City with 16 teams in the East.

There were two proposals one had West 14 teams, East 16 or West 16 teams, East 14 teams and the second had 15 teams in each leaving option to add one team to each or two teams to one or the other depending on where the new teams will be located they could use any other the three options.

llamateizer 02-26-2013 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dkdanielkli (Post 60515043)
The dumbest system I've seen so far.
What I'd do is cancel all Conferences and Divisions. I'd make a league where each team would face all other teams once at home and once away which makes it 29*2=58 game only. Then the 3rd game between both teams will be drawn (its location). At the end we'll have 87 games per team per season. TOP 16 teams make the playoffs when 1vs16, 2vs15 etc..

wut.
you are proposing is more games and more flight distance?

I love the idea, but its not feasible

Habitants 02-26-2013 03:19 PM

and what happens when phx has to move to QC?

Fish on The Sand 02-26-2013 03:38 PM

why is our division called the Central? Swap Tampa and Florida with Columbus and Carolina and call ours the North-East

llamateizer 02-26-2013 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand (Post 60518507)
why is our division called the Central? Swap Tampa and Florida with Columbus and Carolina and call ours the North-East

Maybe its because there is a higher attendance when the canadiens are in florida state.

sheed36 02-26-2013 03:45 PM

Not a fan of the divisional playoff format proposed at all. Keep it a conference playoff format where #1 plays #8, #2 plays #7, etc.. I like that there's a chance the Habs could play teams like the Flyers, Pens, Rangers in round 1. Why can't the NHL just leave well enough alone and keep the current playoff format as is.

I wouldn't even mind if they changed it to a 1 vs 16, 2 vs 15 type format which could see east vs west teams in round 1. Just imagine a Habs vs Bruins or Habs vs Leafs Stanley Cup final. With the divisional or conference playoff format that can never happen.

Darth Joker 02-26-2013 03:45 PM

Columbus or Nashville should have been moved into Atlanta's old spot.

Then Winnipeg can be moved into Columbus/Nashville's spot.

There, done.


The current NHL division/conference format is perfectly fine the way it is. It's way better than this realignment proposal.

Madam Kadri 02-26-2013 03:45 PM

Wow, but I LOVE our division (sans Florida). You got the old school rivalries and the francophone laden Tampa Bay Lightning.

hardcorehabs 02-26-2013 03:57 PM

all about the money for the nhl. garbage. high market teams with sunshine state.
stupid.

905tech 02-26-2013 04:24 PM

So dumb. Boston, Miami and Tampa are much closer to The Atlantic ocean than Pittsburgh or Columbus.

Like someone else suggested, put Nashville in the Southeast, Winnipeg in the Central - DONE DEAL!

Pigems* 02-26-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth Joker (Post 60518921)
Columbus or Nashville should have been moved into Atlanta's old spot.

Then Winnipeg can be moved into Columbus/Nashville's spot.

There, done.


The current NHL division/conference format is perfectly fine the way it is. It's way better than this realignment proposal.

Works for me

schumway2 02-26-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by techfox (Post 60521193)
So dumb. Boston, Miami and Tampa are much closer to The Atlantic ocean than Pittsburgh or Columbus.

Like someone else suggested, put Nashville in the Southeast, Winnipeg in the Central - DONE DEAL!

This is not simply a Winnipeg issue. Teams like Detroit have been asking for realignment for quite some time. The travel for teams in the mid-west is quite horrific. Plus a lot of their games are played at 9:00 pm local time which isn't great for viewership.

la25ecoupe 02-26-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nilan30 (Post 60516555)
A change would be making it past the 2nd or 3rd round. Personally I love in divison playoffs each year.

Yah but it's getting boring..

Mike8 02-26-2013 06:31 PM

This would be great. Detroit in the same division would be a lot of fun. BOS, TOR, DET, MTL makes for great rivalries. Terrific fanbases, and the bar is set high in this division with DET there.

Also a big fan of divisional playoffs. That's how rivalries are made. The two most entertaining rivalries of the past couple of decades have been: DET-COL (and, by extension, with DAL, and to a lesser extent STL), and MTL-BOS. Those all came about through rivalry.

And, sure, in the late '90s, DET, COL, DAL, STL and NJ probably formed the best 5 in the league. 4 of those 5 came from the West, so it meant each year those 4 would be battling it out. Now, STL was always a step below the others, but they were a decent thorn in the side of DET. It meant that those four clubs would battle it out and would never see each other in the Finals. But this doesn't matter: it ensured high quality, heated hockey from early on in the playoffs. It was beautiful to watch. That only comes with repeated playoff appearances against the same clubs.

LyricalLyricist 02-26-2013 06:33 PM

I HATE the playoff format. It annoys me tremendously. It's a MAJOR turn off. I don't want to be force fed rivalries.

WeeBey 02-26-2013 06:50 PM

The six division format is the only one that makes sense. They could actually make pretty good divisions if they went horizontally OR stopped trying to create a feud between Vancouver and the Alberta teams.

Cupmonger 02-26-2013 10:23 PM

Don't like the playoff format. Seems too messed up.

So, for examples' sake, our division would have us, bruins, sens, leafs and Wings in the playoffs. We'd basically have to play more games in order to reach to the conference finals? Or does one of the wild cards get sent to another division? If so, that means an "intruder" team from another division could win the division title? Seems too messed up... Makes no sense.

Or maybe, the idea would be, if there's 5 teams in the division going into the playoffs. It would 2nd vs 5th, 3rd vs 4th, and 1st waits? No doesn't work, still ends up with odd number teams. Or do we send 3rd to another division for the playoffs?? Ugh...


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