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StellerEller 02-27-2013 02:12 AM

The Powerplay with Ryder
 
What do you think will happen with Ryder and his great shot back on the Habs?

Obviously he should proably play on the left wing to set up the one timer, but he is often in the high slot from what I remember/What I have since leaving MTL the first time. Where would you use him and would you have to change our approach on the PP with him entering the fold? What do you think MT will do?

Here's what I would do:
1st unit:
Ryder-DD-Pacioretty
Diaz-Markov

Ryder: On the left, high half-wall he is first forward option for the shot.
DD: In motion, posting up in different areas, causing problems for the PKers with his constant shifting of positions
Pacioretty: In his sweet spot, In the right corner, behind the net, and low right side for feeds, rebounds and one timers.
Markov/Diaz: Play the points and move/switch at The General's command.

2nd Unit:
Gallagher/Eller-Plekanec-Galchenyuk
Subban-Boullion/Emelin

They would all play the same roles unless Eller slots in, and then instead it work this way:

Eller: Goes in front of the net, Holmstrom style, Goes for rebounds, uses his size and great hands to pot garbage goals, jump out for the one-timer in the slot.
Plekanec: Down below the net/spotting up in the two lower walls to connect passes and move the puck
Galchenyuk: High Right wall, the AK27 spot. Uses his lazerbeam to rip shots, passes over to Subban or Plekanec for one timers.
Subban, Diaz, Emelin: Feed Galchenyuk, Subban Shoots, Subban can one time to Galchenyuk. Boullion/Emelin shoot to get puck on the net for Eller/ Plekanec, who come in for rebounds/tips, also set up Galchenyuk.

Thoughts? (Hopefully I didn't screw this up :laugh:)

EDIT: Also I was surprised to see in the GDT that we still have the 10th ranked PP. Surprising Perhaps PPs aren't doing too well this year.

EDIT: My bad about Subban one timing himself :baghead:

overlords 02-27-2013 02:17 AM

Subban can one time to subban! Can't wait to see that.

Alexdaman 02-27-2013 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StellerEller (Post 60569007)
What do you think will happen with Ryder and his great shot back on the Habs?

Obviously he should proably play on the left wing to set up the one timer, but he is often in the high slot from what I remember/What I have since leaving MTL the first time. Where would you use him and would you have to change our approach on the PP with him entering the fold? What do you think MT will do?

Here's what I would do:
1st unit:
Ryder-DD-Pacioretty
Diaz-Markov

Ryder: On the left, high half-wall he is first forward option for the shot.
DD: In motion, posting up in different areas, causing problems for the PKers with his constant shifting of positions
Pacioretty: In his sweet spot, In the right corner, behind the net, and low right side for feeds, rebounds and one timers.
Markov/Diaz: Play the points and move/switch at The General's command.

2nd Unit:
Gallagher/Eller-Plekanec-Galchenyuk
Subban-Boullion/Emelin


They would all play the same roles unless Eller slots in, and then instead it work this way:

Eller: Goes in front of the net, Holmstrom style, Goes for rebounds, uses his size and great hands to pot garbage goals, jump out for the one-timer in the slot.
Plekanec: Down below the net/spotting up in the two lower walls to connect passes and move the puck
Galchenyuk: High Right wall, the AK27 spot. Uses his lazerbeam to rip shots, passes over to Subban or Plekanec for one timers.
Subban, Diaz, Emelin: Feed Galchenyuk, Subban Shoots, Subban can one time to Subban, Galchenyuk. Boullion/Emelin shoot to get puck on the net for Eller/ Plekanec, who come in for rebounds/tips, also set up Galchenyuk.

Thoughts? (Hopefully I didn't screw this up :laugh:)

Not enough experience there they've been struggling a lot when MT does give them the opportunity.

We still need the usual Plek bunch.

But maybe MT should consider using them in games that we are leading by 3 in the 3rd.

StellerEller 02-27-2013 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 60569077)
Subban can one time to subban! Can't wait to see that.

Whoops
:laugh:

rockjngo 02-27-2013 02:43 AM

Galchenyuk-Eller-Ryder
Prust-Plekanec-Gionta
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Moen-White-Armstrong

DekeLikeYouMeanIt 02-27-2013 03:24 AM

We need a body upfront. DD screening is okay but I'd rather he shows off his passing behind the net or half wall like Joe Thornton.

Patch-DD-Eller/Gallagher
Subban-Markov

Ryder-Plek-Chucky
Emelin-Diaz

Eller, Gally and Alex can screen the goalie.

PricePkPatch 02-27-2013 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 60569077)
Subban can one time to subban! Can't wait to see that.

He's that good

Dont Poke Subban 02-27-2013 03:44 AM

As much as we hate seeing gionta out there, we will still see him out there on every powerplay we get. So just accept it! :laugh:

So for 1st unit, i'd have
Gionta on the left side, bourque (when he comes back) screening the goalie and pleks on the right side with diaz/markov

For 2nd unit,
Ryder left side, i think maxpac needs to be the one screening the goalie then dd on the right side with subban/bouillon

The kids will only get pp chances if we're up by 2-3 goals, what i think. No pp ice time during close games.

HTTP 400 Bad Request 02-27-2013 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekeLikeYouMeanIt (Post 60569753)
We need a body upfront. DD screening is okay but I'd rather he shows off his passing behind the net or half wall like Joe Thornton.

Patch-DD-Eller/Gallagher
Subban-Markov

Ryder-Plek-Chucky
Emelin-Diaz

Eller, Gally and Alex can screen the goalie.

This. I fail to see why DD is always the one screening the goalie! :laugh:

Madam Kadri 02-27-2013 08:06 AM

Therrien must have too little time on his hands because he just tosses out the regular lines on every ****ing power play.

The best thing you can hope for is that Ryder replaces "The Black Hole" next to Plekanec because "The Black Hole" is a 0-dimensional player.

coolasprICE 02-27-2013 08:10 AM

The best part of Ryder is the possibility of Gionta playing his last shift on the PP

If he still gets a regular shift on the PP ................... gonna protest.

That Habs Fan 02-27-2013 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 60569077)
Subban can one time to subban! Can't wait to see that.

might be possible in a few years considering how many picks we now have for this upcoming draft :handclap:

Playmaker09 02-27-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolasprICE (Post 60572901)
The best part of Ryder is the possibility of Gionta playing his last shift on the PP

If he still gets a regular shift on the PP ................... gonna protest.

What exactly makes you think that he'd be taken off now if he wasn't taken off earlier? Ryder will just replace Cole (shocking, I know).

Zeroknowledge* 02-27-2013 01:03 PM

For our power play's sake I think we should just use Diaz, Markov and Subban while double shifting one of them on every single power play. Having Bouillon on the power play is a liability.

overlords 02-27-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Playmaker09 (Post 60585423)
What exactly makes you think that he'd be taken off now if he wasn't taken off earlier? Ryder will just replace Cole (shocking, I know).

Whoever runs the PP needs to get it through his thick skull that he's not required to play the ES lines as the PP lines.

YMCMBeaulieu 02-27-2013 01:05 PM

Ryder - Desharnais - Pacioretty
Markov - Subban

Gallagher - Plekanec - Galchenyuk
Diaz - Markov/Subban

la25ecoupe 02-27-2013 01:10 PM

Why did Eller took over Galchenyuk for center position?

Playmaker09 02-27-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 60585881)
Whoever runs the PP needs to get it through his thick skull that he's not required to play the ES lines as the PP lines.

But the point is he/they do. I don't get why people are expecting otherwise. That's not to say I wouldn't like to see a change, but it is what it is.

Et le But 02-27-2013 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by la25ecoupe (Post 60586169)
Why did Eller took over Galchenyuk for center position?

Therrien explained he wanted to lessen Gally's defensive responsibilities.

shamrun 02-27-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 60569077)
Subban can one time to subban! Can't wait to see that.

when i read this i thought of......




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