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AtlantaWhaler 02-27-2013 08:26 AM

Nashville Predators groom Craig Smith at center
 
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Coach Barry Trotz has used Smith as a center for the past couple of games because of center Paul Gaustad’s upper-body injury. Gaustad is scheduled to return to the lineup Wednesday at Anaheim or Saturday at San Jose, but Trotz said he’s committed to keeping Smith in the middle for the long term.
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...302260079/2079

I love it. IF he pans out, he can become the top-6 center this team sorely needs. It also shows that Trotzy is starting to see what we fans are seeing in Fisher and Leggy.

PredsV82 02-27-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaWhaler (Post 60573397)
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...302260079/2079

I love it. IF he pans out, he can become the top-6 center this team sorely needs. It also shows that Trotzy is starting to see what we fans are seeing in Fisher and Leggy.

I think the plan has always been to eventually replace Fisher and Legwand with Smith and Wilson.

triggrman 02-27-2013 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PredsV82 (Post 60573879)
I think the plan has always been to eventually replace Fisher and Legwand with Smith and Wilson.

Has Wilson played center much

I can't see Trotz going with 2 offensive centers. He'll have Spaling on the top 2 lines with Wilson as a winger.

MrJoshua 02-27-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by triggrman (Post 60575107)
Has Wilson played center much

I can't see Trotz going with 2 offensive centers. He'll have Spaling on the top 2 lines with Wilson as a winger.

The way Wilson has been playing at wing, I'm not sure I'd want to see him moved to center. Let him stay at wing where he has more freedom to focus on offense.

Nothing Is New 02-27-2013 09:28 AM

Good centers are hard to come by and if Smith has got the tools, this would be an excellent move. You get the feeling that Smith is talented and can play well in the bigs, but is just missing something - he's just not yet in the right situation. Maybe sort of like Peverley was while in Nash - except maybe this time we hold on and use Smith the right way.

deanwormer 02-27-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nothing Is New (Post 60575595)
Good centers are hard to come by and if Smith has got the tools, this would be an excellent move. You get the feeling that Smith is talented and can play well in the bigs, but is just missing something - he's just not yet in the right situation. Maybe sort of like Peverley was while in Nash - except maybe this time we hold on and use Smith the right way.

1. no chance of the preds letting smith go
2. comparing peverly to smith is like comparing leggy to crosby.

Smith centering 2 responsible and speedy wings is what his line will look like next year - maybe this one if he keeps it up and Leggy and Fish continue their collective offensive woes. Marty probably on the right, not sure yet what the left looks like - Gabby or SK I guess if we don't acquire someone, although I wouldn't mind seeing them try Leggy there.

Paranoid Android 02-27-2013 11:55 AM

What if Gaustad never got injured? Would Smith have even gotten a chance?

TootooTrain 02-27-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by triggrman (Post 60575107)
Has Wilson played center much

I can't see Trotz going with 2 offensive centers. He'll have Spaling on the top 2 lines with Wilson as a winger.

Trotz said if there had been an 82 game season this year that he would have started Wilson at center and kept him there. With the compacted season he decided against this with each game being important. So I think we can almost have Wilson as a center written in stone starting next year.

Paranoid Android 02-27-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Everlong (Post 60601345)
Trotz said if there had been an 82 game season this year that he would have started Wilson at center and kept him there. With the compacted season he decided against this with each game being important. So I think we can almost have Wilson as a center written in stone starting next year.

I think we may try Wilson at center. Whether he sticks is another question though. IMO he won't. He's been playing wing too long to go back and excel. It would set his development back to relearn another position. Not to mention he's the worst face off guy on the team. I'd love to be wrong but I don't see it.

TootooTrain 02-27-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 60602265)
I think we may try Wilson at center. Whether he sticks is another question though. IMO he won't. He's been playing wing too long to go back and excel. It would set his development back to relearn another position. Not to mention he's the worst face off guy on the team. I'd love to be wrong but I don't see it.

Wasn't he drafted as a center?

Paranoid Android 02-27-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Everlong (Post 60602669)
Wasn't he drafted as a center?

Yes, but he's played 95% of his pro career as a winger. He'd basically have to relearn the position and also learn how to take face offs. All while not regressing offensively since we need him. If he starts slumping again this year, I could see it, but not if he keeps his current level.

Preds33 02-27-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Everlong (Post 60602669)
Wasn't he drafted as a center?


His profile page lists him as a center

http://predators.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8474569

TootooTrain 02-27-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 60603029)
Yes, but he's played 95% of his pro career as a winger. He'd basically have to relearn the position and also learn how to take face offs. All while not regressing offensively since we need him. If he starts slumping again this year, I could see it, but not if he keeps his current level.

Sounds alot like Kadri in Toronto. Drafted as a center, played about 80% of his AHL career as a winger. Has a freckled NHL history the last few years where he played mostly wing. Only this year has he been given the keys to the center position and he's flourished after being kicked and booted for turnovers over the years. Faceoffs a problem obviously, but it's a learning process. There's no reason to think Wilson can't succeed at the position.

Paranoid Android 02-27-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Everlong (Post 60603207)
Sounds alot like Kadri in Toronto. Drafted as a center, played about 80% of his AHL career as a winger. Has a freckled NHL history the last few years where he played mostly wing. Only this year has he been given the keys to the center position and he's flourished after being kicked and booted for turnovers over the years. Faceoffs a problem obviously, but it's a learning process. There's no reason to think Wilson can't succeed at the position.

I will admit that I'm more skeptical than most with players switching positions. I've never been a fan of it, especially over the long haul. But Kadri, for example, will have played wing for over 2 years less than Wilson if the switch is made next year. I think that's a significant amount of time to have an effect. I'm not very familiar with Kadri though.

CalleJAMkrok 02-27-2013 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 60603029)
Yes, but he's played 95% of his pro career as a winger. He'd basically have to relearn the position and also learn how to take face offs. All while not regressing offensively since we need him. If he starts slumping again this year, I could see it, but not if he keeps his current level.

he could pick up being a center in no time. You dont forget how to take faceoffs. Look at erats faceoff percentage, he isnt a center but whenever he takes a faceoff he usually wins it. Last 4 games has had 2 100%, 50%, and 40% FO wins. Its just something you know how to do, like riding a bike.

sidenote: does anyone notice that recently Marty has started out as a center expecting the first person to get kicked out of the FO circle to have Fisher come in as the "2nd" faceoff guy?

Drake744 02-27-2013 07:12 PM

We have ample guys that can play center. Fisher, Legwand, Gaustad, Wilson, Smith, Spaling, etc. The true centers will be that way (Fisher and Gaustad) and the others are probably interchangable, including Leggy. If we can pick up a bonafide top-line center we can bump Fisher down to a more productive role and mix and match accordingly.

triggrman 02-27-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CantbeatzPekka (Post 60606151)
he could pick up being a center in no time. You dont forget how to take faceoffs. Look at erats faceoff percentage, he isnt a center but whenever he takes a faceoff he usually wins it. Last 4 games has had 2 100%, 50%, and 40% FO wins. Its just something you know how to do, like riding a bike.

sidenote: does anyone notice that recently Marty has started out as a center expecting the first person to get kicked out of the FO circle to have Fisher come in as the "2nd" faceoff guy?

Faceoffs are just a small part of the difference between playing center and wing, it's really a totally different position.

CalleJAMkrok 02-27-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by triggrman (Post 60615115)
Faceoffs are just a small part of the difference between playing center and wing, it's really a totally different position.

I know what each position does, ive played both. Wilson is a a natural center. People who are saying he couldnt just switch to center are wrong. We would maybe see a dip in his scoring, but that would be due to him having more responsibility as a center...

Paranoid Android 02-27-2013 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CantbeatzPekka (Post 60617495)
I know what each position does, ive played both. Wilson is a a natural center. People who are saying he couldnt just switch to center are wrong. We would maybe see a dip in his scoring, but that would be due to him having more responsibility as a center...

This is a very optimistic view. Hope you are right, but I highly doubt it. You can't just flip a switch and start playing center. Rarely ever works out in real life.

I think Trotz mainly said what he did about Wilson because he struggled last year and wanted to throw him in at center to get him going. But now that he was embraced the wing position and is playing very well, I don't think he messes with that. Don't fix what ain't broke.

CalleJAMkrok 02-27-2013 11:37 PM

Im not calling for a switch, im just saying Wilson can 100% play center if needed.

Paranoid Android 02-27-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CantbeatzPekka (Post 60632533)
Im not calling for a switch, im just saying Wilson can 100% play center if needed.

Based off of what though? How can you say that with 100% certainty when he's never successfully done it?

CalleJAMkrok 02-27-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 60633129)
Based off of what though? How can you say that with 100% certainty when he's never successfully done it?

hes never successfully done anything until this season. so that is irrelevant.

EDIT: To answer your question, he was drafted as a center, and is a NATURAL center. He successfully did it at the Collegate level, fyi

Paranoid Android 02-28-2013 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CantbeatzPekka (Post 60633805)
hes never successfully done anything until this season. so that is irrelevant.

EDIT: To answer your question, he was drafted as a center, and is a NATURAL center. He successfully did it at the Collegate level, fyi

Harsh :laugh:

And yes, I said that a few posts back. I'm well aware. Huge, HUGE difference between playing center in college and the show.

CalleJAMkrok 02-28-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Android (Post 60634765)
Harsh :laugh:

And yes, I said that a few posts back. I'm well aware. Huge, HUGE difference between playing center in college and the show.

well it is true, its hard to argue for him on that one. But yeah I was just pointing out that he has played center successfully in college and was a hobey baker finalist. The kid can play center is my only point. I am not wanting him to switch at all, yet. In the future it would be nice to have him pick it back up and us have smith and wilson down the middle. On paper it looks good :nod:

kypredsfan 03-02-2013 02:52 AM

Trotz has already publicly said Wilson will be moved to Center either late this season or next.


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