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Beemer335 02-27-2013 04:57 PM

Garret Ross
 
Who is this dude tearing up the OHL right now? I noticed we drafted him in the 5th round this year and he was 2 years past his draft eligibility when he was picked, but if you look at his track of improvement over the last 3 years, it looks like Stan was on to something.

Do any of you know if this guy is a legit prospect or just a guy getting lucky putting up points or anything at all about him?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=122903

HockeySensible 02-27-2013 05:00 PM

He's not a legit top-6 prospect, but he is a legit bottom-6 guy, with some skill. Plays hard, plays physical and has enough skill/hockey sense/talent to be a third liner in the NHL some day. I wouldn't put too much stock into his production this year, being an overager, but he has the potential to be a very good role player in Chicago.

zytz 02-27-2013 05:15 PM

He's supposed to be comparable to Shaw right?

HockeySensible 02-27-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by zytz (Post 60599901)
He's supposed to be comparable to Shaw right?

Yes.. but, I wouldn't say he's as smart on the ice.

Bubba88 02-28-2013 12:27 AM

isn't he an overager in the OHL right now? I don't see that we would hit on another 5th round pick as we did hit Shaw

Blue Liner 03-02-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubba88 (Post 60635193)
isn't he an overager in the OHL right now? I don't see that we would hit on another 5th round pick as we did hit Shaw

Why not? This team has a track record of hitting on mid-low rounds picks. Was certainly worth the pick. Nothing to lose.

Bubba88 03-02-2013 11:23 AM

that's true, but you can't hit with every pick that looks good in juniors.

Blue Liner 03-02-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubba88 (Post 60785589)
that's true, but you can't hit with every pick that looks good in juniors.

Well of course not, no one's gonna hit on every pick from wherever they come from, but there's just as much reason to believe he could turn out to be a solid NHL player as there is to believe he wont. It's all about keeping realistic expectations for what their NHL role will be. Being a top goal scorer as an overager isn't going to likely translate to being a top NHL scorer but that doesn't mean an effective role can't be found a la Shaw, Bolland, etc.

If they had no track record of hitting on mid-low round players it'd be one thing, but they've been very successful with them in recent years so there's reason for optimism and again, with a fifth round pick there's not much to lose. Could turn out to be a steal. We'll see.

MTP 03-02-2013 12:38 PM

He also has a ton of chemistry with Saad since they were linemates last year.

HockeySensible 03-02-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MTP (Post 60790449)
He also has a ton of chemistry with Saad since they were linemates last year.

This is true.. but seeing as Saad will likely be in Chicago's top-6 (already is) and Ross will most likely find himself on Chicago's 4th line, it won't matter much. Should make Ross' transition into the NHL and lockerroom smoother.. but, the kid seems like quite a character, so I doubt he would have had much trouble anyways.

Blue Liner 03-02-2013 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HossTheBoss (Post 60790747)
This is true.. but seeing as Saad will likely be in Chicago's top-6 (already is) and Ross will most likely find himself on Chicago's 4th line, it won't matter much. Should make Ross' transition into the NHL and lockerroom smoother.. but, the kid seems like quite a character, so I doubt he would have had much trouble anyways.

Never seen the guy play, only read reports. How do you feel he'd be for a fourth liner. Is his defensive game good? Physical at all? Intelligent?

MTP 03-02-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HossTheBoss (Post 60790747)
This is true.. but seeing as Saad will likely be in Chicago's top-6 (already is) and Ross will most likely find himself on Chicago's 4th line, it won't matter much. Should make Ross' transition into the NHL and lockerroom smoother.. but, the kid seems like quite a character, so I doubt he would have had much trouble anyways.

Does Ross have any potential on special teams?

HockeySensible 03-02-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue Liner (Post 60790971)
Never seen the guy play, only read reports. How do you feel he'd be for a fourth liner. Is his defensive game good? Physical at all? Intelligent?

He'd be a great 4th liner. He works hard, is phsyical, wins battles along the boards and in the corners and has enough skill and hockey sense that I could see him being a quality third liner in the NHL. As far as his two-way game, I don't think it's there quite yet.. but he's a smart player and he won't hurt you defensively, IMO. He doesn't have off-the-charts smarts/hockey sense, but he's not merely a grunt. He can think and make plays.

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Originally Posted by MTP (Post 60791569)
Does Ross have any potential on special teams?

Tough to say. I wouldn't have thought Shaw would and now he's on Chicago's PP. Ross is bigger than Shaw and I don't think he'd have a problem being a net presense, so in that way I think he could be, otherwise, likely not. He can contribute to a PK though.

Blue Liner 03-02-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HossTheBoss (Post 60793103)
He'd be a great 4th liner. He works hard, is phsyical, wins battles along the boards and in the corners and has enough skill and hockey sense that I could see him being a quality third liner in the NHL. As far as his two-way game, I don't think it's there quite yet.. but he's a smart player and he won't hurt you defensively, IMO. He doesn't have off-the-charts smarts/hockey sense, but he's not merely a grunt. He can think and make plays.



Tough to say. I wouldn't have thought Shaw would and now he's on Chicago's PP. Ross is bigger than Shaw and I don't think he'd have a problem being a net presense, so in that way I think he could be, otherwise, likely not. He can contribute to a PK though.

Thanks, sounds like he was worth taking a shot on.

Marotte Marauder 03-02-2013 05:29 PM

We took a similar player in the 1st round a few years ago, with discipline issues. :laugh:

UsernameWasTaken 03-22-2016 09:33 AM

He has been charged with disseminating "revenge porn"

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/re...-revenge-porn/

MurrayBannerman 03-22-2016 09:38 AM

**** this guy.

CourtneyDagger50 03-22-2016 09:41 AM

I am so mad right now

BK 03-22-2016 09:50 AM

If he is guilty cut him.

clydesdale line 03-22-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BK Lounge (Post 115746919)
If he is guilty cut him.

Considering the Hogs have scratched him the last two games, I'm sure it's inevitable. McDonough is a pretty no nonsense guy unless your a star (more leeway).

As I said in the prospects thread, Ross just hasn't been the same player he was last season.

Hawks And More Hawks 03-22-2016 09:57 AM

Although, as far as I can tell, he's only been charged...so let's wait to see how this plays out. Admittedly though, I wasn't exactly clear on what "revenge porn" was...so as they say "you learn something new everyday."

BK 03-22-2016 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by clydesdale line (Post 115747091)
Considering the Hogs have scratched him the last two games, I'm sure it's inevitable. McDonough is a pretty no nonsense guy unless your a star (more leeway).

As I said in the prospects thread, Ross just hasn't been the same player he was last season.

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Originally Posted by Hawks And More Hawks (Post 115747145)
Although, as far as I can tell, he's only been charged...so let's wait to see how this plays out. Admittedly though, I wasn't exactly clear on what "revenge porn" was...so as they say "you learn something new everyday."

Letting the process play out is not a bad thing but if you talk to the player and he does not deny the charge then you cut him. I think people forget you are innocent until proven guilty in the US (not directed at anyone) and if JM would have reacted quickly with Kane he would be on a different team. Swift justice is not always the best justice.

hockeydoug 03-22-2016 12:07 PM

Can't wait to find out if McDonough knew of the allegations over the summer or if he was just waiting until the charges were filed.

Esq 03-22-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BK Lounge (Post 115747321)
Letting the process play out is not a bad thing but if you talk to the player and he does not deny the charge then you cut him.

Why? It's perfectly fine for Ross to not comment on the matter, even privately to the team. Those conversations aren't privileged. McD only had the conversation with Kane because the latter wanted to have it.

Esq 03-22-2016 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman (Post 115746503)
**** this guy.

Glad we're not rushing to judgment... :shakehead


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