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HoseEmAllAround 03-03-2013 06:34 PM

Jones: Trade Lecavalier
 
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/hocke...-trade/1277133

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Steven Stamkos is untouchable. Marty St. Louis, 37, is too old. Ryan Malone is too injury-prone, and Teddy Purcell is too inconsistent to attract much interest. The Lightning doesn't have enough depth to deal one of its better defensemen. It could deal a fourth-liner or a second-tier defenseman, but what would that get it in return?

That pretty much leaves Lecavalier, who turns 33 in April and would have to waive a no-trade clause. The Lightning would love to shed his contract, which still has seven years remaining with an annual cap hit of $7.72 million. Frankly, that's also the reason he is difficult — and maybe even impossible — to trade.

Then again, if you're ever going to get someone to bite on Lecavalier during a season, it's this one. Practically every team is in the hunt and might believe Lecavalier will put it over the top. The guy can still play at a high level.
Thoughts?

dbieon12 03-03-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Colonel Klinkhammer (Post 60884859)

If it can be done. Done, good riddance.

If Montreal is willing: not sure what we get? Looks like Habs would have to dump salary at some point, but I believe we would prefer defense or picks.

Tampacuseforever 03-03-2013 07:11 PM

No one is crazy enough to take that contract.

snowden 03-03-2013 07:51 PM

Jones is a hack on par with Deumig.

BoHorvatFan 03-03-2013 07:52 PM

You guys can keep a portion of his salary. I think at 5 million you could get a lot for Vinny.

jg39 03-03-2013 08:41 PM

Ridiculous. The only thing I feel like I have heard more than "Vinny to Montreal" is the phrase that usually follows it "but this season, it actually makes sense."

Hockeyfan02 03-03-2013 08:44 PM

It's been proven long before this but Tom Jones is an idiot. I'm not completely against trading Vinny but nothing is going to happen because he has a NMC.

TBLbrian 03-03-2013 09:31 PM

Vinny will retire here.

Glide5 03-03-2013 09:32 PM

While Vinny's contract is terrible, trading him wouldnt help us at all either. Short term or long term. You cant replace what he means too this franchise, and this city. If he goes, you would loose a significant portion of the fanbase.

crunchrulz 03-03-2013 09:45 PM

As much as I would hate to see the Captain go, Cbus traded Nash and still have a franchise (for now) so anything is possible.

TheDaysOf 04 03-04-2013 01:15 AM

Really dumb if you ask me, while EE and DC write about Yzerman staying patient. I'm pretty surprised a writer out of Tampa would start the Trade Vinny to Montreal mumbo jumbo. I don't always see Jones with quotes in his articles, so I guess he doesn't go into the locker rooms at all.

snowden 03-04-2013 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDaysOf 04 (Post 60922717)
Really dumb if you ask me, while EE and DC write about Yzerman staying patient. I'm pretty surprised a writer out of Tampa would start the Trade Vinny to Montreal mumbo jumbo. I don't always see Jones with quotes in his articles, so I guess he doesn't go into the locker rooms at all.

Nope, he doesn't. He knows jack **** about hockey and has mentioned before that he's not a Lightning fan. This is just him throwing **** against the wall to see what might stick and generate hits/attention. He's a terrible writer.

InjuredChoker 03-04-2013 04:19 AM

With the new CBA, I don't see that contract getting traded. That ship has sailed. Vinny will remain life-long Tampa. Let's just hope he stays relatively healthy.

ThunderAlleyNomad 03-04-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDaysOf 04 (Post 60922717)
Really dumb if you ask me, while EE and DC write about Yzerman staying patient. I'm pretty surprised a writer out of Tampa would start the Trade Vinny to Montreal mumbo jumbo. I don't always see Jones with quotes in his articles, so I guess he doesn't go into the locker rooms at all.

Read this on BP but have never heard it myself, so take it for what it's worth.

Apparently Jones has never made any bones about not being a Lightning fan, in a column and that he is a Pittsburgh guy. He writes about the Lightning because he's sports editor for one of the local daily papers. He has too. He has to talk about them on his radio show (who the hell keeps giving these idiots air time?) because Bolts fans keep calling in asking questions. So yeah, he really doesn't give a ****, but he knows trade Vinny talk brings out the listeners, readers and hits for the website.

lost puck 03-04-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hockeyfan02 (Post 60901717)
.... he has a NMC.

This is end of story to me. Vinny is seeded in the community. Why on earth would he waive the NMC?

sonny side up 03-04-2013 07:15 PM

The only thing I can see happening with this contract not counting toward the books is if he takes an amnesty buyout like Redden (isn't that what happened?) then signs something like a X year deal for <$1m per (not sure that is even legal with the new CBA). Either way, he's in Tampa Bay for a long long long long time.

Stammer Time 03-04-2013 07:48 PM

He will be bought out or retire here. He lives here full time, his kids live and were born here and no state income tax, he'll never waive his NMC.

Halak Ness Monster 03-04-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Allaboard (Post 60888541)
No one is crazy enough to take that contract.

The Amnesty buyout would help.

However, you wouldn't get much for him considering he'd be a free agent in July if you do plan on using the amnesty buyout.

As a Blues fan and HUGE Lecavalier fan, I want him on the Blues. However, we'd have to buy him out and then re-sign him for a really cheap deal for me to want to give up much value.

Although admittedly I'm not entirely sure how the buyout works. I know the cap hit is erased. How much of the remaining money do the players get?

JFleegs 03-04-2013 09:25 PM

I never thought I would say this, but maybe it is time to start a move in a different direction? or maybe its just the depression talking.:cry:

ThunderAlleyNomad 03-04-2013 09:36 PM

He's got to be hurt. I mean I've been ready to ditch the guy for three years. Then I changed my mind with the way he started off this season. Now bad Vinny is back. You don't just fall off like that without an injury.

Lecavilier_4 03-04-2013 09:45 PM

I thought Lecavalier was one of our strongest players at the beginning of the year. He was quietly doing the right things and was putting up points. When the team fell apart, so did he. I don't think trading/buying him out is the right thing to do.

He is still an important part to the team.

chasespace 03-04-2013 09:46 PM

Are we allowed to buy him out then immediately turn around and sign him to a better contract?

HoseEmAllAround 03-04-2013 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lecavilier_4 (Post 60981195)
I thought Lecavalier was one of our strongest players at the beginning of the year. He was quietly doing the right things and was putting up points. When the team fell apart, so did he. I don't think trading/buying him out is the right thing to do.

He is still an important part to the team.

I find I agree with you a lot.

dbieon12 03-04-2013 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lecavilier_4 (Post 60981195)
I thought Lecavalier was one of our strongest players at the beginning of the year. He was quietly doing the right things and was putting up points. When the team fell apart, so did he. I don't think trading/buying him out is the right thing to do.

He is still an important part to the team.

I think the team fell apart when he fell apart, if order matters.

Trading him would definitely end this season's chances. The team would fall even more apart without a 'captain'. But if there's going to be a team-wide change - it's not going to be from Boucher, Yzerman, Stamkos, St. Louis, Killorn, Palat, Desjardins - it's going to come from Lecavalier.

Mr Underhill 03-04-2013 09:50 PM

Dude is absolutely awful right now. Looks like he doesn't even give a crap.


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