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x Tame Impala 03-03-2013 07:44 PM

Hypothetical: Teuvo Teravainen
 
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What if last season's 1st round pick is NHL ready next season? Not only NHL ready, but staple top 6 ready?

I'm not too much of an expert on NHL scouting but i've heard it thrown around that Teuvo has the some of the best (2nd best?) offensive talent in that draft class. What if this kid is ready to contribute on the Hawks and can put up 60-70 points next year?

Again, this is all hypothetical but where would he be fitting in?

Saad-Toews-Hossa
Sharp-Bolland-Kane

The only possible place i can see for him would be bumping Saad down and if Saad keeps playing as well as he has been then he wouldn't deserve to be taken off the 1st line. Even if Saad is taken down, where do we play him then? The 4th line?

This is a fantastic problem to have but since the Hawks are playing so well there's nothing to talk about! What would a forum be without a little totally unnecessary discussion?!

Gootie 03-03-2013 07:45 PM

Saad-Toews-Kane
Sharp-TT-Hossa
Bickell/Stalberg-Bolland-Shaw

All hypothetical, of course

HockeySensible 03-03-2013 07:48 PM

I think Chicago wants/needs Teravainen to develope into a centre and because of that, I don't think we'll see him in the NHL next year. He's not that small and he's extremely talented, so I could see him doing well in the NHL next year, not 60-70 point good, but he could make an impact.

It's a difficult position to be in. Teravainen plays a game that would thrive in Chicago and IMO, from what I've seen out of him, he thinks the game at an NHL-level.. but he's still a bit physically immature (will never be a big guy) and you don't want to rush a guy that should be a big contributer to your team in 2-3 years.

DisgruntledHawkFan 03-03-2013 07:52 PM

Everything I've read about him states he's best utilized as a winger at the NHL level. Let's let the 19 year old kid slot into the situation that works best for him before moving him to pivot at the highest level.

Blackhawkswincup 03-03-2013 08:02 PM

TT is not a C ,, Trying to force him to become one is mistake

If TT pans out then it is likely we see Hossa drop to 3rd line defensive/offensive role (Ala Havlat in 08-09)

Hossa isn't getting any younger and eventually will not be top line winger with team

In an ideal world Mark McNeill makes impact as a poor mans getzlaf and slots into #2 C spot longterm

Saad-Toews-Kane
Sharp-McNeill-TT
Hayes-Danault-Hossa

We will just have to see what happens but it is too early to make plans on potential of players who may or may not pan out

digdug41982 03-03-2013 08:06 PM

I'll take him as a winger this year if ANY forward gets hurt.

Blackhawkswincup 03-03-2013 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 60895229)
I'll take him as a winger this year if ANY forward gets hurt.

He isn't coming over this year ,, Nor can he as per his contract in Europe

digdug41982 03-03-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup (Post 60894665)
TT is not a C ,, Trying to force him to become one is mistake

If TT pans out then it is likely we see Hossa drop to 3rd line defensive/offensive role (Ala Havlat in 08-09)

Hossa isn't getting any younger and eventually will not be top line winger with team

In an ideal world Mark McNeill makes impact as a poor mans getzlaf and slots into #2 C spot longterm

Saad-Toews-Kane
Sharp-McNeill-TT
Hayes-Danault-Hossa

We will just have to see what happens but it is too early to make plans on potential of players who may or may not pan out

Would rather have TT in a Stalberg role on the third line. TT will never be Hossa and I want about a full bad season from Hoss before I move him down, like 40 points or less and losing his legs.

digdug41982 03-03-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup (Post 60895397)
He isn't coming over this year ,, Nor can he as per his contract in Europe

"Kruger". It's ok when it is already your guy.

HockeySensible 03-03-2013 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 60896115)
"Kruger". It's ok when it is already your guy.

Lol.

Kruger's contract with Djurgarden expired and then he came over. Not to mention, Kruger had a contract with Chicago that he signed the prior off-season. Teravainen has yet to sign an ELC and I doubt Chicago would sign him and burn a year off of it just to have TT at the end of the season.

DisgruntledHawkFan 03-03-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 60896115)
"Kruger". It's ok when it is already your guy.

TT would more than likely be as big a black hole in the top six as Kruger was when he first came over and was gifted that role. Much less trying to explain the rationale to your kids like Jayes, Pirri and Morin that have been busting their ass to get a cup of coffee down in Rockford.

UsernameWasTaken 03-03-2013 08:18 PM

the finnish posters on the board seem to think he'll have to stay on wing to be effective.

i haven't seen anything to indicate he'll be nhl ready at any position next year.

UsernameWasTaken 03-03-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisgruntledHawkFan (Post 60896703)
TT would more than likely be as big a black hole in the top six as Kruger was when he first came over and was gifted that role. Much less trying to explain the rationale to your kids like Jayes, Pirri and Morin that have been busting their ass to get a cup of coffee down in Rockford.

what does that have to do with anything? saad skipped to the front of the queue.

digdug41982 03-03-2013 08:23 PM

I think it's reasonable that he could replace Vik or BB if an injury occurred.

DisgruntledHawkFan 03-03-2013 08:25 PM

Saad has proven himself on North American ice and played in an admittedly short training camp but nonetheless a training camp.

UsernameWasTaken 03-03-2013 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisgruntledHawkFan (Post 60898235)
Saad has proven himself on North American ice and played in an admittedly short training camp but nonetheless a training camp.

if the hawks decided teuvo was ready for the nhl (which he doesn't appear to be) then he should play...it's stupid to send him to the AHL just because someone else hasn't had a chance to play in the NHL.

DisgruntledHawkFan 03-03-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UsernameWasTaken (Post 60899921)
if the hawks decided teuvo was ready for the nhl (which he doesn't appear to be) then he should play...it's stupid to send him to the AHL just because someone else hasn't had a chance to play in the NHL.

I'm not saying keep him down because Flick hasn't had a cup of coffee yet. I'm saying TT has proven far less on NA ice and unless he's clearly ahead of them that guys like Morin, Jayes, Pirri, and Smith - all guys who have shown something at the NHL level to varying degrees - would be who I'd give a look first.

stingo 03-03-2013 08:38 PM

I can't see TT being ready next year, but likely the year after, with any luck.

Nothingman* 03-03-2013 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingo (Post 60900839)
I can't see TT being ready next year, but likely the year after, with any luck.

I agree. I was thinking along the lines of 2 years from now. Because he will be in Finland next year I am pretty sure and come over the year after for Rockford. Something like that.

HockeySensible 03-03-2013 08:47 PM

When TT comes over, he'll be ready to step into Chicago's top-9. That's not even a concern. You just don't want to rush him.

DisgruntledHawkFan 03-03-2013 08:49 PM

I'll fully admit to having seen little of him live. Certainly excited by his offensive potential, but if I need to win a NHL game tomorrow, I take the guy that's shown something in the pro's over the roll of the dice.

Hawks82 03-03-2013 08:53 PM

I'd sure be happy if TT ends up being the solution as the 2nd line C. I don't think there's a question with his talent at all. Give him a couple more seasons to keep developing physically.

Nothingman* 03-03-2013 08:53 PM

Depends on the cap issue. And we are showing we can integrate one young person a year into the lineup well.

x Tame Impala 03-03-2013 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stingo (Post 60900839)
I can't see TT being ready next year, but likely the year after, with any luck.

This is a hypothetical. HYPOTHETICALLY if Teravainen is ready next season

EbonyRaptor 03-03-2013 09:58 PM

The OP stated hypothetically that TT is ready for a top-6 role. Elaborating on that hypothetical a bit, TT comes to rookie camp and is hands down the best player on the ice. Then he joins other prospects like Morin, JHayes, Pirri and others at training camp and is again the hands down best prospect at camp. In fact so much so that the Hawks decide he is ready to play in the NHL and he makes the opening day roster. None of the other prospects would have any room to complain because TT just outplayed every one of them.

Let's also assume that Olesz and Montador will be bought out and Frolik will be traded as a salary dump allowing enough cap space to resign free agent forwards Kruger, Stalberg and Bickell.

Maybe TT will play center in the NHL some day, but very doubtful next year. So most likely he will play where he has been playing this year in Finland - LW.

Here is my hypothetical lineup:

Saad-Toews-Hossa
Sharp-Bolland-Kane
Teravainen-Shaw-Stalberg
Bickell-Kruger-Carcillo

Toews, Kane and Teravainen - the three best play makers on three different lines.


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