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Sawdalite 03-06-2013 02:13 PM

Flyers Place in Mark Recchi's NHL Career
 
Mark Recchi is arguably a slam dunk for inclusion in the Hockey Hall shortly after his eligibility begins. He has been on three Stanley Cup winning teams and has played for seven Organizations over parts of twenty two NHL seasons. He is ranked high in the all-time list in just about every major categories and has played in 1,652 Games, scoring 577 Goals and 956 Assists for 1,533 Points in the Regular Season.

Of those stats, as a Flyer Mark has played parts of 10 Seasons (45.5%), 602 Games (36.4%), 232 Goals (40.2), 395 Assists (41.3%) and 627 points (40.9%).

It is my contention that even though Mark Recchi has not won the all important Cup as a Flyer, he has by far spent more time and scored more as a Flyer than he has with any other Organization and pushing almost half of all his stats with Philadelphia... and should be represented in The HHoF wearing a Flyers uniform.

Furthermore, since he ranks very highly in all the major all-time Flyers Organization stats, once in the HHoF he... as was the case when Mark Howe who was recently honored the Organization upon his HHoF induction... should have his Number Eight retired. Howe broke the unwritten rule and even though he did not win a Cup as a Flyer was so honored and IMO Recchi has established his legacy in all-time NHL history. Recchi has also established his legacy in the all-time Flyers Organization history and I believe should be claimed as 'ours. as soon as possible upon his HHoF induction. I understand the Flyers stance on being tough on number retirement and that Howe was recently so honored, but I believe Mark Recchi's stats deserve nothing short of this.

... Also, Mark Recchi should be inducted in the Flyers HoF this season.



Thoughts..................

JDinkalage Morgoone 03-06-2013 02:16 PM

Agreed about the HoF as a Flyer, however, iffy on the jersey retirement. Howe was a staple on the Flyers for many years, Recchi was moved a few times. I wouldn't argue with it if it happened, but I just don't see it.

LegionOfDoom91 03-06-2013 02:18 PM

Has anybody wore the number 8 since Recchi left?

I'm more curious to see if they'll put Lindros in it if he makes the HOF.

FlyingPhilly 03-06-2013 02:20 PM

Recchi was a great player. I wish the Flyers had kept him around coming out of the 2005 lockout. He also holds the Flyers record for most points in a single season with 123 points. I agree and think Recchi should go into the HOF as a Flyer. As for retiring his jersey, I wouldn't be against it, but I feel like the Flyers should retire Lindros' jersey first.

RJ8812* 03-06-2013 02:20 PM

the HHOF isnt like isnt like Cooperstown. Players arent inducted as part of teams. They go in representing all the teams they've played for

FlyingPhilly 03-06-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 61107293)
Has anybody wore the number 8 since Recchi left?

I'm more curious to see if they'll put Lindros in it if he makes the HOF.

Grossmann wears #8 now.

JDinkalage Morgoone 03-06-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 61107293)
Has anybody wore the number 8 since Recchi left?

I'm more curious to see if they'll put Lindros in it if he makes the HOF.

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Hello.

Shady McCoy 03-06-2013 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 61107293)
Has anybody wore the number 8 since Recchi left?

I'm more curious to see if they'll put Lindros in it if he makes the HOF.

That Nick Grossmann guy and Matt Walker off the top of my head.

RJ8812* 03-06-2013 02:22 PM

Walker also wore 8 IIRC

LegionOfDoom91 03-06-2013 02:23 PM

:laugh:

Yeah I don't know what the hell I was thinking on that one. It honestly didn't even enter my mind that he wears #8.

JDinkalage Morgoone 03-06-2013 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ8812 (Post 61107559)
Walker also wore 8 IIRC

Who the hell is Matt Walker?

*bangs head repeatedly to forget*

Datsyuk Prospect 03-06-2013 02:24 PM

Absolute respect for Recchi, I thank him for his services as a Hurricane and helping us reach the Stanley Cup final and hoisting Lord Stanley.

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Beef Invictus 03-06-2013 02:29 PM

It'll be interesting to see how the organization decides. I personally have no idea what they'd do. I certainly wouldn't be opposed.

CanadianFlyer88 03-06-2013 02:38 PM

Tough to say with Recchi. He certainly belongs in the Flyers HoF; I'm sceptical that he did enough while in Philly to have his jersey retired. He has 3 Cups, all with different organizations and he only had three superstar seasons (from an individual stats standpoint) with the Flyers.

The only non-Cup winners that I believed would get any consideration were Howe and Lindros... and I was pretty surprised the organization actually broke the mould to allow Howe's jersey to be retired.

Qyburn 03-06-2013 02:43 PM

And Sanderson...and Fitzpatrick...

I think it has to be the Flyers. It certainly won't be the habs, which leaves Pittsburgh.

He had a really phenomenal playoff getting to their first cup, but then was shipped out at the deadline before they won the second one. I can't explain why, but that seems like it should matter. He had to watch from the golf course while the core he came up with celebrated their second in a row.

He set a Flyers record in the first run and was Lindros' right hand man in one of his most memorable seasons. His second run was very solid, 5+ productive seasons where he never missed significant time. Along with 2 memorable conference finals.

I wouldn't retire the jersey though. I'm kind of surprised people are seriously even considering that.

Sawdalite 03-06-2013 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDinklage Morgoone (Post 61107163)
Agreed about the HoF as a Flyer, however, iffy on the jersey retirement. Howe was a staple on the Flyers for many years, Recchi was moved a few times. I wouldn't argue with it if it happened, but I just don't see it.

Parts of ten seasons in O&B.

Sawdalite 03-06-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ8812 (Post 61107397)
the HHOF isnt like isnt like Cooperstown. Players arent inducted as part of teams. They go in representing all the teams they've played for

I understand that, but their website depicts them in a jersey... For example, Phil Esposito wears a Bruins uniform.

FreshPerspective 03-06-2013 07:15 PM

The Flyers should ask Recchi if he will come out of retirement and play for them.....I bet he would be more productive than Gagne and Knuble combined. Knuble has already started being benched and Gagne apart from the adrenaline of his first game back hasn't really impressed me just yet...

FlyingPhilly 03-06-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccupySouthBroadSt (Post 61122805)
The Flyers should ask Recchi if he will come out of retirement and play for them.....I bet he would be more productive than Gagne and Knuble combined. Knuble has already started being benched and Gagne apart from the adrenaline of his first game back hasn't really impressed me just yet...

While Homer is at that, he should ask Foppa to come back too.

Sawdalite 03-06-2013 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccupySouthBroadSt (Post 61122805)
The Flyers should ask Recchi if he will come out of retirement and play for them.....I bet he would be more productive than Gagne and Knuble combined. Knuble has already started being benched and Gagne apart from the adrenaline of his first game back hasn't really impressed me just yet...

The way I see it, the sad point with Knuble is actually that he doesn't have the fast skating ability that is needed for the lower role players in Lavy's System... That said, he looked okay as a fourth line winger who with Feds and Rinaldo in the Energy Line role. He has always been a grinder and is defensively responsible... it's just that Lavy prefers young fast legs. Knuble IMO though is a real good low priced depth winger who can plug in on various roles when injury calls for one. He has been used on the PK as well as PP and as a second and third line winger and as the extra man when the goalie is pulled at the end of a game. IMO he can be important over the course of the season and in the PlayOffs... if needed. It's just a shame he doesn't have the speed... but he never really did. haha

Cyborg LeClair 03-06-2013 10:03 PM

I'm all for his induction into the Flyers Hall of Fame, but I think retiring his number isn't necessary. There have been other great #8's for the Flyers, plus Recchi never won a cup here yet has 3 elsewhere. I'm not saying I'd be against it, in fact i'd be ecstatic because he's one of my all time favorite Flyers, but I don't see the organization doing it.

Of all Flyers, I'd think Lindros has the best chance to have his number retired and that's only if he gets into the HHOF. What do y'all think Gagne's chance is at having 12 retired for him? Again, I think there can be similar arguments made as the one for Recchi (other great #12's like Kerr and Dornhoefer)

freakydallas13 03-06-2013 11:11 PM

I agree Mark should go into the HHoF as a flyer jersey, but we should keep his number un-reitred in Philadelphia.

Qyburn 03-06-2013 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyborg LeClair (Post 61137949)
What do y'all think Gagne's chance is at having 12 retired for him? Again, I think there can be similar arguments made as the one for Recchi (other great #12's like Kerr and Dornhoefer)

I also think the argument is the same as the one for Recchi, but it's not that argument.

Neither of them did enough for long enough. That's all.

Even if Gagne spent his entire career here it wouldn't be enough. It wouldn't be special enough. If anyone thinks it was, may I suggest they might not be thinking that much further past their 20-25 years.

dbr2 03-07-2013 12:24 AM

If the Flyers don't retire 27 for Leach, Recchi's number 8 doesn't retire. I would love for him to be placed into the Flyers' HOF, however.

GoneFullHextall 03-07-2013 12:47 AM

loved Rex when he was here, but I gotta say no on jersey retirement.
No problem putting him in the Flyers HOF tho.


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