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futurcorerock 04-02-2005 12:29 AM

Plantar Fasciitis
 
So i'm curious, Anyone here suffer from Plantar Fasciitis or a permaneat condition of flat feet?

Me? Permaneat from childhood, sure plays hell on the foot, especially having to get custom orthotic inserts made and creating modest discomfort in your boot.

JeffW 04-02-2005 08:40 AM

Last year I developed the condition in my right foot just as the fall season started. It finally cleared up during the Christmas break.

When the season resumed in January I got it in the left foot. :cry:

I missed most of the season because of the severe pain. Turns out it was the Nike skates I was wearing that caused it. I switched to Mission skates and just finished a 35 game season and also on the ice twice a week as a coach and had no probs.

I'm on my feet all day at my job so to say it was pure misery for six months is an understatement.

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Habsfan 32 04-02-2005 09:32 AM

I have flat feet but I've never had problems with my skates except some minor pain when I skate for too long but the pain is real nothing bad.

ceber 04-02-2005 01:09 PM

I've got plantar fasciitis in my right foot, and both my feet are pronated. The pronation lead to knee pain (according to sports medicine folks) called patellofermoral pain syndrome (basically the knee cap gets out of alignment due to the pronation and causes knee pain). A physical therapist gave me exercises to strengthen my legs and gluts, and I haven't had any problems since. I _always_ wear orthotics in my shoes (extremely important if you've got flat feet, according to my doc), and bought some SuperFeet insoles for my skates that seem to help. I'd highly recommend seeing a sports medicine physician if you can. I saw a GP initially and while he did diagnose the problem he prescribed exercises that didn't help and possibly made it worse. The sports doc I saw discussed what was happening specifically when I was skating, and correctly diagnosed which muscles needed to be strengthened to improve my alignment problems. YMMV, of course, but I really felt like I understood what was causing the pain after I saw the sports doc.

futurcorerock 04-02-2005 01:29 PM

Same situation for me. I went from casual inserts to athletic ones as of now, due to my old insert creating sharp pains in my foot muscles. Turns out the old orthotic was made while I was still developing, and my foot widened. Sports Medicine doctor put me on some exercizes to strengthen my feet up and ofcourse took the plaster mold of my foot. In a few weeks I'll get the insert and be able to try it out.

Before, I was pretty miffed because I had gotten custom CCM's without arches so that I could have room to put the insert, but it seemd like I still had that pain.

Paxon 04-02-2005 05:01 PM

I think I might...

When I played basketball back in 7th grade I had extreme foot pain, so I went to the doctor. He took x-rays and all that jazz, diagnosed me with something and told me to get arch supports. I did but to this day my feet still hurt a lot when I do anything active. I don't know if what I have is flat feet, but I always assumed so. If I had health insurance I just may be inclined to figure this thing out.

They hurt really bad with my new skates, too. I never put supports in my skates and always figured I should; I suppose I will.

kalehr 04-02-2005 05:43 PM

I have problems with my feet as well, and wearing hockey skates only makes the situation worse. Where can you get SuperFeet insoles?

futurcorerock 04-02-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Paxon
I think I might...

When I played basketball back in 7th grade I had extreme foot pain, so I went to the doctor. He took x-rays and all that jazz, diagnosed me with something and told me to get arch supports. I did but to this day my feet still hurt a lot when I do anything active. I don't know if what I have is flat feet, but I always assumed so. If I had health insurance I just may be inclined to figure this thing out.

They hurt really bad with my new skates, too. I never put supports in my skates and always figured I should; I suppose I will.

According to some online resources, Corrective inserts are crucial to maintaining healthy knees throughout life. Rolling feet and foot pains can mess up your knees due to putting multiples of your body weight on the joint, which in turn can influence back problems as well.

I'm scared straight.

Paxon 04-02-2005 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by futurcorerock
According to some online resources, Corrective inserts are crucial to maintaining healthy knees throughout life. Rolling feet and foot pains can mess up your knees due to putting multiples of your body weight on the joint, which in turn can influence back problems as well.

I'm scared straight.

Well, that explains my back problems then.

futurcorerock 04-02-2005 07:22 PM

Anyone know of NHLers with pre-existing foot problems who play through them, such as PF?

fcbarcelona 04-03-2005 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ceber
I'd highly recommend seeing a sports medicine physician if you can. I saw a GP initially and while he did diagnose the problem he prescribed exercises that didn't help and possibly made it worse. The sports doc I saw discussed what was happening specifically when I was skating, and correctly diagnosed which muscles needed to be strengthened to improve my alignment problems. YMMV, of course, but I really felt like I understood what was causing the pain after I saw the sports doc.

That's an interesting read, though not surprising. Sports med docs have an extra year or two of specialization that GPs don't get. As well, GPs are concerned with a host of other problems involving other systems of the body. There's too much for them to know. So, as a consequence, they look stupid compared to specialists and are often talked down during consultations.

ceber 04-03-2005 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jericholic19
That's an interesting read, though not surprising. Sports med docs have an extra year or two of specialization that GPs don't get. As well, GPs are concerned with a host of other problems involving other systems of the body. There's too much for them to know. So, as a consequence, they look stupid compared to specialists and are often talked down during consultations.

The sports doc I saw was visiting a GP's office. The GP had her come in once a week specifically to deal with sports-related injuries. I first met with an intern, and she told me that while something like 30% of the problems GP's saw were muscle/joint problems, they only received a brief amount of schooling on them, which is why this office brought in the sports doc once a week for help and training. So what you say is dead on, there's just too much material for the GP to cover.

mksee 04-04-2005 10:04 AM

I got it about 6 years ago from playing too much basketball. I was playing 2hours a day 5 days a week. After about 10 months of that my right foot popped. Talking to Pt and Dr I realized that I had been experiancing small tears for months, followed by the big one. I rested 3 weeks wrapped my foot with extra arch supports and first day back, my left foot popped. I was unable to run,jog or play bball for 6+ months. If I play basketball now, my feet hurt for 3-4 days after.. I had NO problem with my skates and missed no ice time. Streatching, and propper support make it bearable.

Wild Thing 04-04-2005 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kalehr
I have problems with my feet as well, and wearing hockey skates only makes the situation worse. Where can you get SuperFeet insoles?

I get mine at the outdoor store that I buy most of my hiking and camping equipment at, Midwest Mountaineering in Minneapolis. I highly recommend them. I use them in every hiking boot, and I can walk 10 or 15 miles a day without any problems. Take the insert out, and I'm crippled by plantar's fascitis within a quarter mile.

I've never used them in skates before, because I've never had plantar's fascitis with hockey skates. I use CCMs, and they've never been a problem. But I just took up rollerblading this weekend, and started having problems already. I've got Salomon inlines, and I'm picking up a pair of Superfeet tonight so I can skate tomorrow. Could hardly walk last night after skating only a half hour.

kalehr 04-04-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Thing
I get mine at the outdoor store that I buy most of my hiking and camping equipment at, Midwest Mountaineering in Minneapolis. I highly recommend them. I use them in every hiking boot, and I can walk 10 or 15 miles a day without any problems. Take the insert out, and I'm crippled by plantar's fascitis within a quarter mile.

I've never used them in skates before, because I've never had plantar's fascitis with hockey skates. I use CCMs, and they've never been a problem. But I just took up rollerblading this weekend, and started having problems already. I've got Salomon inlines, and I'm picking up a pair of Superfeet tonight so I can skate tomorrow. Could hardly walk last night after skating only a half hour.

Thanks for the location, that is pretty much right across the street where I have most of my classes at the U and a 20-minute walk from my home. :D I tried to skate on Saturday and only lasted about 20 minutes before my feet were really sore and I had to get off the ice and out of my skates ASAP. That had never happened before, so I guess I'll be stopping in for a visit @ Midwest Mountaineering in the VERY near future...

Predshockey17 04-04-2005 04:04 PM

I was born with extremely wide feet. They look like a macaroni box. I have no arch whatsoever. No army service or such for me :yo:

clefty 04-04-2005 07:18 PM

My feet are simply irregular, and I can't walk for more than 30 mins in street shoes before they start to hurt. After every game, its excrutiatingly painful to remove my skates, and I have to remain barefooted for quite some time after they're off to let some of the swelling go down. Nine times out of ten, I leave the rink without wearing my shoes, it just hurts too much to wear them.

I used to take them off between periods, but my feet would be all swollen and it would be painful as hell putting my skates back on, and my feet would hurt like hell when I finally get my skates back on, mostly around my ankles, arches and heels. I really should probably go to a podiatrist or something sometime.

Wild Thing 04-05-2005 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalehr
Thanks for the location, that is pretty much right across the street where I have most of my classes at the U and a 20-minute walk from my home. :D I tried to skate on Saturday and only lasted about 20 minutes before my feet were really sore and I had to get off the ice and out of my skates ASAP. That had never happened before, so I guess I'll be stopping in for a visit @ Midwest Mountaineering in the VERY near future...

You've gotta be kidding - you're in the Cities? I had no idea what part of the planet you were posting from! That's perfect. Just walk in the front door, bear slightly to your left, and they're over by the hiking boots. They're about 30 bucks a pair, but well worth it. I think they have a money back guarantee, too, in case they don't work out. Good luck.

Bythe way, where do you skate around there? Augsburg? I'm looking for some summertime rinks around the West Bank area.

kalehr 04-05-2005 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild Thing
You've gotta be kidding - you're in the Cities? I had no idea what part of the planet you were posting from! That's perfect. Just walk in the front door, bear slightly to your left, and they're over by the hiking boots. They're about 30 bucks a pair, but well worth it. I think they have a money back guarantee, too, in case they don't work out. Good luck.

Bythe way, where do you skate around there? Augsburg? I'm looking for some summertime rinks around the West Bank area.

Yup, just moved to Minneapolis in January for grad school. I've been taking my skating classes out at Braemar and Bloomington Ice Gardens, they aren't really that far away from campus, only about a 20 drive (at least, that's how long it takes ME to get to those two rinks :D ). If you want something closer to campus, you are correct that Augsburg is your best bet. You can also try Parade or maybe even Victory Memorial (which isn't really that near the U, but it is in the NE part of Minneapolis), hopefully you'll find what you need at one of those places. BTW, if you find out about any rinks in the Twin Cities that offer summer adult skating classes on the weekends or in the evening, please let me know. I'm trying to get my skating up to the point where I can start playing beginner hockey and possibly go through one of the refereeing certification clinics in the fall.

futurcorerock 04-06-2005 05:58 PM

About those insoles... I had a game the other night where my foot actually did swell up and was near impossible to walk on post-game. Would such an insole combined with my arch support help combat this?

FangFingers 04-07-2005 07:54 AM

I developed plantar fasciitis in both feet in the military - with all the marching. Felt like someone had taken a sledgehammer to my feet. The Army hospital even crafted custom insoples and supports, but it didnt help. I must have spent $200 on different Dr. Shoals Foot thingys.

The only thing that fixed it was getting off of them for 6 months.

GoBoltz56 04-11-2005 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffW
I missed most of the season because of the severe pain. Turns out it was the Nike skates I was wearing that caused it. I switched to Mission skates and just finished a 35 game season and also on the ice twice a week as a coach and had no probs.

Thats ironic..i have been playing hockey for almost 20 years, and never had foot pains..but i got the nike v12's and have horrible pains after i take my skates off...the skates themselves are comfortable and feel like a slipper, but it must be something about the width that causes the sides of my feet to cramp up.


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