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kmad 03-10-2013 10:33 PM

Actual Team Toughness?
Here's James Mirtle's blog post from January, ranking teams by average height, weight and age:


I thought average height and weight could be interesting to explore.

Obviously by themselves they're useless - can Brian McGrattan really be adding to a team's "average" size and height playing two minutes per game?

The best way to measure actual average team size would probably be to divide a player's weight and height by their TOI/60 to create weight shares and height shares, and then adding them up to form the average.

Still, not as useful as it could be. I think this data could be further manipulated to indicate actual team toughness, by using other statistics to attribute toughness values to players.

Can anyone think of a way to involve selected types of PIMs or hits or something, after calculating weight and height shares, to better indicate toughness? It's late and I'm not thinking good.

Ho Borvat 03-11-2013 12:52 AM

Obviously subjective based on referees, game context, reputation etc

But would contextualizing roughing penalties not be a good inclusion?

It would be hard to seperate the Brian McGrattans from the Wayne Simmonds of the NHL.

Ho Borvat 03-11-2013 12:59 AM

Maybe exclude players who play <9 minutes a game?

So you could come up with a weight of away hits (donno if this is available), (certain penalties like roughing, cross checking, and so on), height/weight, and weigh it against EV TOI

*Sorry not very stat savvy just spitballin.

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