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Paralyzer008 03-11-2013 05:06 PM

Brian Campbell
 
His name has recently been rumored to be part of the Florida fire sale.

Question 1: What's his value?

Question 2: What's his value if Florida retained some salary?

officeglen 03-11-2013 05:09 PM

His current value is -17

oh wait, that's his league low +/-

he seems to not be the same player, but perhaps is playing with an injury or a bad coach

SchennSational1022* 03-11-2013 05:09 PM

Id give up more than any other team would. The obvious person is Briere but he makes no sense for them and probably wouldnt waive for a non playoff team.

If 2 million of his cap hit is kept by Florida hes among one of the best puck movers in league. He is so good and underrated but his contract is bad. What would Florida want from us for Campbell with about 2-2.5 retained?

Beezeral 03-11-2013 05:11 PM

It's not happening.

Ricky Bobby 03-11-2013 05:13 PM

Edmonton should make a major run for him.

They've got the cap space, lots of picks/prospects to deal and desperately need an impact Dman.

SchennSational1022* 03-11-2013 05:13 PM

FWIW eklund just posted saying Flyers and Detroit are in on him. Hes very credible with Flyers rumors so I dont doubt it.

BlackRedYellow 03-11-2013 05:24 PM

Vancouver? They need a puck moving d-man

deckercky 03-11-2013 05:28 PM

Phillie and Detroit would seem to be the two main potential buyers who have cap space. I could see either paying a solid amount for Campbell *if Florida felt like trading him*.

Vancouver can't come anywhere near affording him (and he's mainly a left handed defenceman).

Djp 03-11-2013 06:39 PM

Campbell after this year still has 3 ys and $21M left. In order for him to be moved Florida probably needs to lower campbells cost down to something like $4.0M-$4.5M.

If they promote that price tag it will drive more bidders, thus they could get something more in return.

The amount they eat may be lesssened if they eat someone elses overpaid contract.

zytz 03-11-2013 07:09 PM

If Florida keeps back $3M of cap space we will send you Olesz :)

Laus723 03-11-2013 07:32 PM

He's stayin put.

Injuries have wrecked the team this season, as well as some guys playing poorly.

Who brings up +\- to show a player's worth when his team's GAA is that high?

officeglen 03-11-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 61464323)
... Who brings up +\- to show a player's worth when his team's GAA is that high?

I do when he is a lot ahead of most of his team. Put in other terms, why is he playing like poop?

Laus723 03-11-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 61464535)
I do when he is a lot ahead of most of his team. Put in other terms, why is he playing like poop?

Watch the games. :shakehead

officeglen 03-11-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 61465893)
Watch the games

sure, that shows how is playing, but why?

Laus723 03-11-2013 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 61466013)
sure, that shows how is playing, but why?

That's all yer getting from me. He's not. Isn't playing like he did last season, but most guys aren't. If you really want to know watch the games. +/-, lol.

projexns 03-11-2013 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 61464535)
I do when he is a lot ahead of most of his team. Put in other terms, why is he playing like poop?

From the few Panthers games I've watched Campbell was easily Florida's best player, and as usual when the puck was on his stick he would usually gain center-ice or make good outlet passes.

He's -17 on a team that has been outscored by 34, which is about right for a d-man who plays almost half the game. If anything his share of ice-time comes matched up against better forwards rather than 3rd-4th liners.

In the back-and-forth of plus/minus he's getting minuses thanks to starting goaltenders with save percentages of .893 and .852 turning routine saves into goals against.

Conversely the pluses that should be off-setting the minuses aren't coming when your presumed top forward (Weiss) has one goal in 17 games before a season-ending injury and the forwards getting the most ice-time on your team are named Fleishmann, Goc and Kopecky who are a notch or seven below any NHL team's top forwards...........

officeglen 03-11-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laus723 (Post 61466197)
That's all yer getting from me. He's not. Isn't playing like he did last season ...

okay, you don't know why he is not playing like last season

Here's some news from the net:
"Florida Panthers Need Better Defense Out Of Brian Campbell"
"Stats we didn't see coming: 4. Florida Panthers defenseman Brian Campbell's minus 17 rating"
"Here is another highly-skilled, highly-paid puck rusher capable of posting dreadful plus-minus rankings. He is pulling a shade more than $7.1 million under 2016, so a bidding team will really, really need an upgrade for their power play."

spot a trend here? try re-watching the games

Beezeral 03-11-2013 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 61466013)
sure, that shows how is playing, but why?

because it would take less than 30 minutes to realize he is the last man standing on a defensive unit that has been decimated by injuries. They have 3 of their intended top 6 playing and havent played a single game with the top 6 all playing.

officeglen 03-11-2013 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projexns (Post 61466327)
From the few Panthers games I've watched Campbell was easily Florida's best player ...

the best player is Huberdeau, I guess watch more games?

projexns 03-11-2013 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by officeglen (Post 61466587)
the best player is Huberdeau, I guess watch more games?

Nope, the games I watched Campbell was their best player. Huberdeau is a very exciting rookie with a penchant for scoring goals, but he is not yet a better player than Campbell.

officeglen 03-11-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beezeral (Post 61466515)
because it would take less than 30 minutes to realize he is the last man standing on a defensive unit that has been decimated by injuries. They have 3 of their intended top 6 playing and havent played a single game with the top 6 all playing.

Campbell vs. Kuba

Campbell 26 games, 10 hits, 38 blocked shots, 19 missed shots, 15 giveways, 10 takeaways
Kuba 24 games, 14 hits, 39 blocked shots, 9 missed shots, 6 giveaways, 7 takeaways

Campbell vs. Campbell
11-12 Campbell, 82 games, 46 hits, 118 blocked shots, 56 missed shots, 46 giveways, 29 takeaways

officeglen 03-11-2013 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projexns (Post 61466843)
Nope, the games I watched Campbell was their best player. Huberdeau is a very exciting rookie with a penchant for scoring goals, but he is not yet a better player than Campbell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FP
Jonathan Huberdeau, centre, Panthers: With the Panthers decimated by injuries hes taken over this team and is their best player. He scored his 11th on a penalty shot and is the Calder Trophy favourite right now.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/spo...195505901.html

avsfansince95 03-11-2013 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SchennSational1022 (Post 61456131)
FWIW eklund just posted saying Flyers and Detroit are in on him. Hes very credible with Flyers rumors so I dont doubt it.

Eklund is not credible in any sense of the word. He said Perry would sign and Gelzlaf wouldn't the next day Getzlaf signed

avsfansince95 03-11-2013 08:23 PM

Could Stastny be a piece for a campbell trade?

416Leafer 03-11-2013 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by avsfansince95 (Post 61467565)
Could Stastny be a piece for a campbell trade?

Hmm.. maybe. I can see why it would make sense from Colorados perspective. Not too sure about from Floridas end though.


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