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CanadianFlyer88 03-11-2013 11:43 PM

The All-Purpose Goaltending Thread #9
 
Old thread, for reference

spudnick 03-12-2013 12:06 AM

The money is bad enough but the length of the contract is the absolute worst. Can you imagine 7 more years of this??????

JustJim 03-12-2013 12:15 AM

It IS a disaster!
 
I can't imagine Snider/Lukko and the rest of the organization would put up with this! Bryz is a very nice man, I've met him on several occasions since he's been with the Flyers, and I can say that he is his own worst critic.
I could see Bryz deciding to return to Europe permanently. He is very proud of Russia, and he is tired of living in a media fish bowl like the Philadelphia sports media has created.
It would be best if he returned to Russia, and called it a day.
Maybe then he could continue his wishes to be a cosmonault.

JustJim 03-12-2013 12:24 AM

Also, don't the Flyers lead the league in blocked shots this season?
The reason for so many blocked shots? The defense has no confidence that the goalie will make saves.
That is another reason to pursue an alternative to the Bryzgalov trouble.
His two back up goalies would be put on waivers by every other team in the league, that is why Holmgren needs to get off his arse and trade for a true starting goalie, because Bryz knows he'll be starting every game. If he had a decent goalie to give him some concentration, and make a competition for who the starting goalie is.
Not just Bryz or nault!

CS 03-12-2013 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJim (Post 61479277)
Also, don't the Flyers lead the league in blocked shots this season?
The reason for so many blocked shots? The defense has no confidence that the goalie will make saves.
That is another reason to pursue an alternative to the Bryzgalov trouble.
His two back up goalies would be put on waivers by every other team in the league, that is why Holmgren needs to get off his arse and trade for a true starting goalie, because Bryz knows he'll be starting every game. If he had a decent goalie to give him some concentration, and make a competition for who the starting goalie is.
Not just Bryz or nault!

I don't know. I see blocked shots as the defense being a strong defense and doing everything it takes to win regardless of who is between the pipes.

Bryzgalov has let this team down. He helped us stay competitive early when we were attacked with injuries, but now he is running on fumes.

We definitely need a PMD and a healthy roster, but a consistent goaltender would go a long way.

Ryker 03-12-2013 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustJim (Post 61479277)
The reason for so many blocked shots? The defense has no confidence that the goalie will make saves.

By that logic, the Rangers don't have confidence in their Vezina trophy winner.

JDinkalage Morgoone 03-12-2013 12:52 AM

Yeah, I doubt the Flyers are blocking shots because Bryz is in net.

Giroux tha Damaja 03-12-2013 12:59 AM

In the old thread someone mentioned seeing Bryz as having more upside than Niklas Backstrom. Holy smokes man. If we're talking just upside, as in their A-games, I don't think it's really a hard choice . . . at all.

When he's healthy and on his game Backstrom's flexible like Bob, but with the patience and picture perfect stance like Belfour used to have, and he plays his angles almost as well as Lundqvist only a little more agressive. Nik Backstrom on his game is a friggin wall. Granted, he's not always on his game and his team hasn't always been good, but we're talking upside here.

Giroux tha Damaja 03-12-2013 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDinklage Morgoone (Post 61480423)
Yeah, I doubt the Flyers are blocking shots because Bryz is in net.

They're blocking shots because if they let Bryz get pulled it's Leighton time.

GoneFullHextall 03-12-2013 01:02 AM

found it hilarious that some people find the Bryzgalov contract fine, but want to throw Briere under the bus.
both players underperforming, but its only acceptable with one of em to be average at best.
unreal.

Edit: I love it how the Bryzgalov supporters whine when they complain about posters and say "its easy to blame the goaltending and use that as the scapegoat" All the while they are hammering home how much Briere sucks and they want Lavy fired.
too funny.

Giroux tha Damaja 03-12-2013 01:12 AM

Briere at least has a track record of going ape **** come April.

Perhaps he's getting older now, he's got to pace himself in the regular season, slowly work up to it.

WeekendAtBernies 03-12-2013 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bernie Parent 1974
everything would be fine in goal, if only we had Smith or Quick

35 Mike Smith PHX .897
37 Jonathan Quick LAK .895


ooops

It's funny, I've asked you to rank Bryzgalov among the other goalies in the NHL about 5 times now and you've refused to do so every time, saying you were only concerned with how Bryz played for us game to game and then you go and post some garbage like this. :laugh:

Unbelievably hypocritical.

hckyplayer8 03-12-2013 03:40 AM

Very long adjustment period.

Ive been saying this for awhile now but here it goes again...

When we suffer another humiliating defeat to the NJD this Wed, perhaps it will be the final nail in the coffin to Peter Laviolettes Philly legacy.

Also it would be a good time to officially release the MFL.

BillDineen 03-12-2013 03:44 AM

The quest for 1000 posts and 1000 excuses continues ...

CS 03-12-2013 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillDineen (Post 61484063)
The quest for 1000 posts and 1000 excuses continues ...

This is thread 9 though.

Aren't we seeking 9,000 excuses?

Also, 9 happens to be the number of years we signed him to.

WeekendAtBernies 03-12-2013 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Shafer (Post 61484275)
This is thread 9 though.

Aren't we seeking 9,000 excuses?

Also, 9 happens to be the number of years we signed him to.

Does that mean that he has to be amnestied by the time we reach the end of thread 9?

BillDineen 03-12-2013 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Shafer (Post 61484275)
This is thread 9 though.

Aren't we seeking 9,000 excuses?

Also, 9 happens to be the number of years we signed him to.

Oh ya, so many I couldn't count properly.

JXC 03-12-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryker (Post 61480401)
By that logic, the Rangers don't have confidence in their Vezina trophy winner.

Callahan is among the worst offenders.

JXC 03-12-2013 07:28 AM

Wow BP1974:


everything would be fine in goal, if only we had Smith or Quick

35 Mike Smith PHX .897
37 Jonathan Quick LAK .895


ooops

JXC 03-12-2013 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillDineen (Post 61484063)
The quest for 1000 posts and 1000 excuses continues ...

Haha yeah a ninth thread about NOT totally blaming someone just sayin' he's PART of the problem.

:-)

BillDineen 03-12-2013 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JXC (Post 61485647)
Haha yeah a ninth thread about NOT totally blaming someone just sayin' he's PART of the problem.

:-)

That isn't what this thread has been about at all. It is about Bryz not being better than an average goalie and not worth the cap hit.

FreshPerspective 03-12-2013 11:07 AM

Meltzer today in his blog post gives a pretty honest assessment of Bryz IMO..

Quote:

GOALTENDING -- Not meeting expectations

I was on the fence with this one. Despite a poor early won-loss record, Ilya Bryzgalov was the Flyers most consistently good player for the first three or four weeks of the season. Ever since then, he has been a very ordinary goaltender who has not been part of the solution. Ultimately, his .899 save percentage on the season is unacceptable, regardless of defensive breakdowns in front of him.

There haven't been a lot of games this season where Bryzgalov has truly been awful. There has not been an inordinate number of outright soft goals allowed, but the number of potentially stoppable shots that have gotten through (with Bryzgalov looking bad on the play) have increased. But over the last six weeks or so, there haven't been very many where he's been all that good, either.

I cover the Dallas Stars as well as the Flyers, and I can most assuredly tell you that the Dallas team defense is every bit as prone to horrific breakdowns as the Flyers, arguably even more so. Yet somehow Kari Lehtonen has still managed to be one of the top goaltenders in the NHL over the last few years, including a 2.23 GAA and .929 save percentage this year.

By comparison, Dallas backup goalies Richard Bachman (3.92 GAA, .848 save percentage in six appearances) and Cristopher Nilstorp (3.03 GAA, .897 SV% in five appearances) have been unable to make clutch saves and Bachman especially has compounded the problem with untimely soft goals. When one of those guys has been in net, it has become painfully clear just how vulnerable the Stars are defensively.

On many nights, Lehtonen singlehandedly lifts the Stars to a higher level of competitiveness. It CAN be done if a goalie is locked in. If Lehtonen can do it, Bryzgalov can as well. That is what the Flyers expect -- and need -- of Bryzgalov, and he doesn't even have to do it as frequently as Lehtonen does in Dallas.

Continue: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...Games/45/49916

RJ8812 03-12-2013 11:09 AM

Bryz has played like **** for the past few weeks and will probably never feel comfortable in Philly. End of story

/thread

SolidSnakeUS 03-12-2013 11:15 AM

I will say though, I have a really horrible, horrible feeling that IF we do amnesty Bryz, he will go to a team we usually play and he will dominate us. It's something I just can't shake.

Mr Black 03-12-2013 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS (Post 61491007)
I will say though, I have a really horrible, horrible feeling that IF we do amnesty Bryz, he will go to a team we usually play and he will dominate us. It's something I just can't shake.

I thought we didn't play KHL teams. :)


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