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Sky04 03-13-2013 02:49 PM

Matthew Carle
 
How many of you guys can stand to watch this guy play here for 6 more years? He's been down right atrocious with and without the puck this year.

If we could move him for a bag of pucks I'd take the deal and run, since we cant, is there any sort of deal that could take him off our hands? Does he have a NTC/NMC?

Anyway we could get J-bow for Carle without adding to much?

LightningStrikes 03-13-2013 03:31 PM

Just like most of our players he's been struggling lately. At the beginning of the season after the first couple of games I thought he wasn't flashy but he gets the job done. His shot is soft as **** though.

I also think using him on the left side on the PP is a mistake. Last night he was on the right and looked a lot better.

As for a NMC/NTC:
Quote:

KNOWN CLAUSES (note: if player has been traded, clauses may no longer apply): Modified NTC
http://www.capgeek.com/player/750

jg39 03-13-2013 03:41 PM

Carle is frustrating. He's REALLY frustrating at $5.5m, and even moreso when he's paired with Eric "who put concrete in my skates?" Brewer. The turnovers are constant, and a lot of his issues seem like they are easily fixed by not playing lazy.

As far as NTC/NMC, I don't know of any, and couldn't find it in the articles when he was signed as a FA from philly. Edit: Good find LightningStikes. I'm wrong.

Would a move to Ottawa make sense b/c of the Karlsson injury? Do they have cap space/the ability to shift things around for a guy like him? I'm not sure moving him is the answer, but the guy has to do something different, and soon. Also, he could stand to take shooting lessons from Salo.

HoseEmDown 03-13-2013 04:07 PM

With that contract we are most likely stuck with him for at least 4 more years. The sad thing is even with how bad he's been he's still our third best defenseman, that's how bad our D has been.

stryfe604 03-13-2013 04:21 PM

Why hasn't any of the coaches or trainers have him do nothing but wrist workouts? Between the flaccid shot and limp wristed giveaways on trying to receive a pass, someone has to say something.

MattM92 03-13-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by HoseEmDown (Post 61589229)
With that contract we are most likely stuck with him for at least 4 more years. The sad thing is even with how bad he's been he's still our third best defenseman, that's how bad our D has been.

Hedman, Salo, Aulie and Gudas (I know it's a small sample size, but I liked what I saw) have all been better than him. I would argue that Brewer and Lee have been slightly better at times too. They at least play the body sometimes and don't have the muscle structure of wet linguine. I would personally say that Carle has been our WORST defenseman this year.

Felonious Python 03-13-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stryfe604 (Post 61589951)
Why hasn't any of the coaches or trainers have him do nothing but wrist workouts? Between the flaccid shot and limp wristed giveaways on trying to receive a pass, someone has to say something.

Apparently wrists aren't really worked on.

Mike Heika wrote a thing on Jagr's training techniques. One of which was using weights on his stick to strengthen his wrists and forearms.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dal...oung-stars.ece

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Stars winger Jaromir Jagr just turned 41, but his unique take on training methods is spreading throughout the team. Here are three things he likes to do that teammates have followed:

Weighted stick: Jagr takes a barbell weight and places it on the blade of his stick, then works the stick back and forth to build strength in his wrists and forearms. Player reaction: “My wrists hurt after a minute, so I’m sure it works.” — defenseman Brenden Dillon.
Brendan Dillon is also really good at hockey. I wish TB would have gotten him.

Marek vs. Wyshynski had Heika on about two weeks back where he gave some more details on it.

I Am Beat You 03-13-2013 04:50 PM

Carle has been pretty much the player I expected him to be, which is unfortunate given his ridiculous contract.

Maelmoor 03-13-2013 05:07 PM

I wrote this when we signed him

Quote:

I never liked Carle but I hope he will prove me wrong, just every time I've seen him play he makes some stupid mistake!
Sadly that statement still stands :(

Vasilevski 03-13-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by I Am Beat You (Post 61591321)
Carle has been pretty much the player I expected him to be, which is unfortunate given his ridiculous contract.

Same, I think Brewer and Lee have been worse than him though, he's fine as #4 D-man, the problem is the contract

stryfe604 03-13-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felonious Python (Post 61590565)
Apparently wrists aren't really worked on.

Mike Heika wrote a thing on Jagr's training techniques. One of which was using weights on his stick to strengthen his wrists and forearms.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/dal...oung-stars.ece



Brendan Dillon is also really good at hockey. I wish TB would have gotten him.

Marek vs. Wyshynski had Heika on about two weeks back where he gave some more details on it.

This needs to be implemented more. Especially with Carle, most of his turnovers and mistakes come from his noodle wrists. That shot of his looks beer league.

CC321 03-13-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by stryfe604 (Post 61589951)
Why hasn't any of the coaches or trainers have him do nothing but wrist workouts? Between the flaccid shot and limp wristed giveaways on trying to receive a pass, someone has to say something.

Carle is married. For some reason, single guys have much stronger wrists.:sarcasm:

Allaboard 03-13-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CC321 (Post 61599665)
Carle is married. For some reason, single guys have much stronger wrists.:sarcasm:

:handclap:

bester vaive 03-13-2013 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC321 (Post 61599665)
Carle is married. For some reason, single guys have much stronger wrists.:sarcasm:

Wrist or wrists? ;)

Felonious Python 03-13-2013 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bester vaive (Post 61600389)
Wrist or wrists? ;)

wrist. let's not get carried away here.

CoopThereItIs 03-13-2013 09:18 PM

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...addelivers.jpg

DarrylshutzSydor 03-15-2013 11:55 AM

"O'reilly for Carle straight up. or even sweeten the deal and give Colorado a 2nd rounder to make sure it gets done.

Then call up Barberio."

my post a few weeks ago from the Ryan Oreilly thread, and have to love the reply I got! ;-)

DekeR 03-18-2013 07:33 AM

A serviceable 3-4 Dman, but with that contract(LMAO) he is useless and we are probably stuck with him. Although Gomez was able to be moved so there is hope. Never liked him though, I don't see his skills being able to overtake his lack of stature/physicality.

TurboBrick 03-18-2013 03:06 PM

We could use one of our compliance buyouts on him this summer if we need to get rid of him.

Steve Yzerman 03-18-2013 03:38 PM

It's too early to think about buying out Matt Carle. We can use one of the compliance buyouts in the summer following next season, so I think it's almost guaranteed Matt Carle will at least get one more season in a Lightning uniform.

Beef Invictus 03-19-2013 02:20 PM

I gave him a few years and defended him for a while before giving up in exasperation.

And yes, his shot is horrific. It's just the worst. It got to the point in Philly where they'd clog the shooting lanes and hope he'd shoot, and nobody had the slightest fear of blocking his shots. It was like watching people intercept a pass, given how much they'd carry it out of the zone afterwards. When he had the puck, nobody was worried about his shot, and it's probably the reason the Flyers produced less offense all year while he was on the ice; he was easy to defend.

Does he still skate straight backwards into the crease, letting opposing players drive in for a better shot? Do opposing players still have no problem dancing around him if he attempts to be aggressive? Does he still get beaten along the boards because he doesn't do anything?

BoltSTH 03-19-2013 02:29 PM

I actually saw him hit someone last night. You heard right, Matt Carle hit someone, a solid check along the boards!!!!!!

Maybe The Beard had words on the bench.

Tripod 04-18-2013 11:49 AM

looks like Tampa will be regreting this signing for awhile

Jacko95 04-18-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tripod (Post 64177907)
looks like Tampa will be regreting this signing for awhile

He plays actually a lot better since Cooper took over as coach. Still not worth 5.5m, but at least he gets points now.

Crabby Williams 04-18-2013 03:05 PM

iCarle


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