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SLAPSHOT723 03-16-2013 04:26 PM

Kichton rejects contract, likely to re-enter NHL draft (Drafted by WPG 190th overall)
 
Per Staple.

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“@StapeNewsday: Also have heard that D Brenden Kichton, #Isles 5th-round pick in 2011, has rejected contract offer and is likely to reenter draft in June.”
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“@StapeNewsday: Kichton currently 22-61-83 for Spokane, leads WHL Dmen in scoring. Feels he can go higher than 5th round this time. #Isles”

OrangeZebra 03-16-2013 04:30 PM

So, he wants to just get picked higher than the fifth round, and that's why he isn't signing? Maybe it was a goo idea to not sign him then...

InformTheMasses 03-16-2013 04:30 PM

im sure he would go higher than the 5th round, but for that to even be an issue must mean the islanders are only offering 5th round money.

Draft status is irrelevant at this point, its all about money now. Isles may have low-balled him. Could mean they can improve the offer.... Could also mean he's a goner.

Would hate to see him go because of low-ball offers.

Tavares2TheRescue 03-16-2013 04:30 PM

Even though he probably won't ever become anything in the NHL, its still discouraging that we can't even get a 5th rounder to sign.

Strickland 03-16-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tavares2TheRescue (Post 61779121)
Even though he probably won't ever become anything in the NHL, its still discouraging that we can't even get a 5th rounder to sign.

Why? It's not like the team has issues with signing prospects. Maybe they don't think he's worth what he wants.

This is a team, BTW, that gave Brock Nelson an OBSCENE amount of money on an ELC to leave UND early.

Seph 03-16-2013 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeZebra (Post 61779097)
So, he wants to just get picked higher than the fifth round, and that's why he isn't signing? Maybe it was a goo idea to not sign him then...

It also may not have been the Islanders idea to not sign him over the summer.

Wanderson 03-16-2013 04:33 PM

Draft him again.

CREW99AW 03-16-2013 04:33 PM

Crap. I hate seeing the isles lose prospects who are developing well.

I wonder if this contract was offered last season or recently because someone posted comments of Kitchon's, where he said he was disappointed he wasn't playing in Bridgeport this season.

Maybe if Snow had made the offer last summer, it would have been accepted.

Degeneration Rex 03-16-2013 04:35 PM

Just from listening to Kichton recently on The Pipeline show he wasn't happy about not playing in Bridgeport. If they tried to sign him last summer it would have been an easy signing.

boredmale 03-16-2013 04:35 PM

I personally get why Kitchon wasn't invited to play in Bridgeport. We already had De Haan, Ness and Donovan there taking that small PMD role, but once De Haan got injured they should had been calling Kitchon right away to fill his spot.

InformTheMasses 03-16-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by boredmale (Post 61779485)
I personally get why Kitchon wasn't invited to play in Bridgeport. We already had De Haan, Ness and Donovan there taking that small PMD role, but once De Haan got injured they should had been calling Kitchon right away to fill his spot.

Ness is such a bust, and was never anything close to the player Kichton has been at Spokane. Ness is faster... Kichton is infinitely better at everything else.

Beastrt 03-16-2013 04:41 PM

I wonder if its about amount of contracts. Maybe the islanders up there offer if guys like lee or mayfield don't sign this year. Also, the islanders may not feel he is a top 2 pairing d-man with all the guys in the system.

Paulinho 03-16-2013 04:42 PM

Draft him again & low ball him again. :)

boredmale 03-16-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by InformTheMasses (Post 61779759)
Ness is such a bust, and was never anything close to the player Kichton has been at Spokane. Ness is faster... Kichton is infinitely better at everything else.

I think it comes down to one was drafted in the 2nd round and the other was a 5th rounder so when deciding who to try develop better the bias for most teams goes to the higher drafted guy

A Pointed Stick 03-16-2013 04:53 PM

How many prospects does this make now? If Snow is building a young core why aren't they lining up to jump in?

PWJunior 03-16-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by A Pointed Stick (Post 61780809)
How many prospects does this make now? If Snow is building a young core why aren't they lining up to jump in?

Well, the players that left were all mid and late round picks. It's going to happen with so many draft picks over the years.

Would have been nice to get Kichton,it's too bad.

19NYSports91 03-16-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by InformTheMasses (Post 61779759)
Ness is such a bust, and was never anything close to the player Kichton has been at Spokane. Ness is faster... Kichton is infinitely better at everything else.

Ness and Hickey imo are pretty similar players.

InformTheMasses 03-16-2013 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 19NYSports91 (Post 61781383)
Ness and Hickey imo are pretty similar players.

Maybe similar in style, but not in effectiveness. Hickey has accomplished a lot more and plays much better, though not sure it's anything above third pairing NHL defenceman.

To me Ness doesn't have a chance at being at Hickeys level. WHich means AHL lifer (if he's lucky).

He is brutally bad defensively and gets burned/thrown off the puck at will. Hickey was better than adequate in his own zone during his AHL tenure.

bsrisles1971 03-16-2013 05:17 PM

Sign Brendan Kichton!(and others)
 
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
Also have heard that D Brenden Kichton, #Isles 5th-round pick in 2011, has rejected contract offer and is likely to reenter draft in June.

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
Kichton currently 22-61-83 for Spokane, leads WHL Dmen in scoring. Feels he can go higher than 5th round this time

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday
#Isles also keeping an eye on NCAA hockey postseason -- hope to sign Anders Lee of ND and Scott Mayfield of Denver when their seasons end.



This is so typical of how the Isles operate. They can not sign top UFA'S so at least sign your own prospects Garth!

Barry

TeamKidd 03-16-2013 05:18 PM

meh who cares. sounds like a negotiating ploy. cant see how he benefits from going into the draft again. I feel like there should be some sort of compensation system or arbitration system that binds draft picks to teams. We shouldnt come up with nothing just cause he doesnt wanna sign with us...we offered him a contract...

StrongIslanders90 03-16-2013 05:20 PM

i can see him going in the 2nd....There has to be more to it then he just thinks he could go higher....wtf...This team/franchise can never catch a break

CREW99AW 03-16-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamKidd (Post 61781975)
meh who cares. sounds like a negotiating ploy. cant see how he benefits from going into the draft again. I feel like there should be some sort of compensation system or arbitration system that binds draft picks to teams. We shouldnt come up with nothing just cause he doesnt wanna sign with us...we offered him a contract...

After the Justin Schultz mess, I'd hoped the new cba would address teams losing prospects, who they'd offered contracts to.

There ought to be some compensation to the team.

Islander Prophet 03-16-2013 05:34 PM

oh well...too bad for him if he puts so much importance on where he is drafted, I don't think the Isles care too much, we have a lot of better prospects on defense out there

StrongIslanders90 03-16-2013 05:42 PM

sucks that we are going to lose Kitchton and Lee.....If he re entered I would wast another pick on him, even if it was a 7th....

Renbarg 03-16-2013 06:11 PM

He's not going to the draft. FA time. Staple has this really wrong. Remember that Kitchon was drafted a year after he first became eligible.

Players who are drafted as 18 year olds can re-enter the draft. 19 year olds can become FAs after their 2 years are up. The Islanders have enough leverage to get him signed if he was to re-enter the draft. But if he is to become a FA, they lose the leverage. This is the same as the NCAA "loophole" (which I argue is not a loophole at all).

If the Chiefs get knocked out early, the Islanders gain some leverage because they can then sign Kitchon and burn a year off of his ELC. If they go deep into the playoffs, its going to be hard to sign Kitchon. This isn't over yet, I have a hard time believing Staple when he is wrong on such an obvious fact. All he heard is that Kitchon rejected the ELC. He couldn't of heard that Kitchon will re-enter draft, or thinks he can go higher when that is not possible.


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