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NYR Viper 03-21-2013 07:56 AM

Rangers Depth
 
I am wondering if there are any teams who would be interested in these guys? All have a year left, Pyatt @ 1.55, Boyle @ 1.7, Asham @ 1 and Powe @ 1.066

Would be looking for replacements or young players/picks. The mix just hasn't worked out well in the bottom-6 for the Rangers.

SprDaVE 03-21-2013 08:09 AM

Brian Boyle for prospect Jamie Devane and a 2013 3rd round pick? Devane is a future fourth liner bruiser. A project though right now.

I think Boyle would be a good fit for Toronto on their bottom 6 lines.

joestevens29 03-21-2013 08:13 AM

Oilers could use Boyle. Petrell and a pick/prospect?

Petrell is a solid 4th liner who plays PK, but we need another center.

NYR Viper 03-21-2013 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SprDaVE (Post 62091029)
Brian Boyle for prospect Jamie Devane and a 2013 3rd round pick?

I think he'd be a good fit for Toronto on their bottom 6 lines.

Would Biggs be available? By looking at his stats, he had a bit of an underwhelming year in the OHL.

SprDaVE 03-21-2013 08:16 AM

I doubt Biggs will be traded anytime soon, not for a player like Brian Boyle anyway.

As much as he didn't flourish offensively in the OHL, the Leafs are pretty high on him.

NYR Viper 03-21-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by joestevens29 (Post 62091167)
Oilers could use Boyle. Petrell and a pick/prospect?

Petrell is a solid 4th liner who plays PK, but we need another center.

Would Rieder be available?

NYR Viper 03-21-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SprDaVE (Post 62091247)
I doubt Biggs will be traded anytime soon, not for a player like Brian Boyle anyway.

As much as he didn't flourish offensively in the OHL, the Leafs are pretty high on him.

Fair enough, had to ask. What about a lower-line more sure-fire tough prospect. I am sure the Leafs have a few of those guys around with Burke being the ex-GM. Maybe that type of player + 3rd (as the Rangers are trying to collect all the 3rd's this year :laugh:)

cwgatti 03-21-2013 08:20 AM

I'd keep Powe and maybe Pyatt. Asham and Boyle are already dead to me. They are also dead to everyone else in the NHL. I'd trade Boyle for a pick and waive Asham. Both are useless.

joestevens29 03-21-2013 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 62091261)
Would Rieder be available?

I'm sure he is available, just not sure if in a deal for Boyle.

NYR Viper 03-21-2013 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by joestevens29 (Post 62091431)
I'm sure he is available, just not sure if in a deal for Boyle.

Ok fair enough. I was thinking Rieder + 5th or something like that for Boyle.

joestevens29 03-21-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 62091631)
Ok fair enough. I was thinking Rieder + 5th or something like that for Boyle.

Who knows the GM could be all over that. I doubt most oiler fans would be as he is kinda the new flash in the pan ripping up the minors prospect.

Ghetto Sangria 03-21-2013 08:53 AM

Perhaps a Boyle for Moen swap? Moen has been great for the habs every season and every playoffs since signing before this year! I'm sure it's just a blip in his career, much like boyle. I think a change in scenery for the both of them may benefit and get the best out of them.

Plus maybe playing with Prusty will rekindle a fire in Boyle's play.

NYR Viper 03-21-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Danglez (Post 62092381)
Perhaps a Boyle for Moen swap? Moen has been great for the habs every season and every playoffs since signing before this year! I'm sure it's just a blip in his career, much like boyle. I think a change in scenery for the both of them may benefit and get the best out of them.

Plus maybe playing with Prusty will rekindle a fire in Boyle's play.

I like Moen, but I don't like that contract and for a player who plays that style it's a bit longer than I would like. How down is the organization on LeBlanc? What about someone like Thrower?

Vitto79 03-21-2013 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joestevens29 (Post 62091167)
Oilers could use Boyle. Petrell and a pick/prospect?

Petrell is a solid 4th liner who plays PK, but we need another center.

Some Ranger fans are in sell mode for young guys but lets be honest that is not going to happen.

If they move a guy like Boyle to Edmonton they are going to want someone to help now so say a Ryan Whitney on D and a UFa winger like Jones. It would be a multi player ,pick deal

they are not going to trade Asham they just signed him and he's been hurt the last bunch of games.

Pyatt, sure they may move him but again they need a replacement now.

Captain Wolverine 03-21-2013 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 62092621)
I like Moen, but I don't like that contract and for a player who plays that style it's a bit longer than I would like. How down is the organization on LeBlanc? What about someone like Thrower?

Leblanc has struggled with injuries and terrible coaching in Hamilton, but the Org isn't going to give up on him yet. He's still the Centennial season 1st rounder and Montreal will give him time to find his game. Thrower got passed on the Blades depth chart by another Habs prospect (Dietz), but he just got drafted. Doubt Montreal moves either for Boyle, who's contract ain't so great either.

The Amity Affliction 03-21-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Boyler87 (Post 62090665)
I am wondering if there are any teams who would be interested in these guys? All have a year left, Pyatt @ 1.55, Boyle @ 1.7, Asham @ 1 and Powe @ 1.066

Would be looking for replacements or young players/picks. The mix just hasn't worked out well in the bottom-6 for the Rangers.

I can't see this happening at all right now. In the offseason, I think all of those guys with the exception of Powe are gone.

SingnBluesOnBroadway 03-21-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitto79 (Post 62092883)
Some Ranger fans are in sell mode for young guys but lets be honest that is not going to happen.

Why exactly?


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Originally Posted by Vitto79 (Post 62092883)
they are not going to trade Asham they just signed him and he's been hurt the last bunch of games.

Pyatt, sure they may move him but again they need a replacement now.

They won't trade Asham because they just signed him but they will trade Pyatt (who they just signed as well)? And Pyatt's replace is a guy named Kreider.

Anthony Eclair 03-21-2013 10:01 AM

I'd rather not get rid of Powe or Boyle at this point really. Powe and Boyle may not be putting up numbers for the Rangers but in terms of awareness and Hockey IQ they have been doing pretty well. I think they just need more time to develop. And Asham is our only Tough-guy/Fighter. We need more intimidating players because honestly, letting Prust go was probably our worst decision in the offseason last year, believe it or not. He added a lot of time on the PK (Which is still looking good) and he got the team anxious to score some goals which he puts up good numbers with from time to time. Our chemistry was perfect and now, we just need to keep with our team until they regroup themselves and Powe and Boyle are players that can actually benefit this team with given time. So why focus on these players when the Rangers should focus on bigger names like Richards and Gaborik because they obviously have lost their touch?

Anthony Eclair 03-21-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Vitto79 (Post 62092883)
Some Ranger fans are in sell mode for young guys but lets be honest that is not going to happen.

If they move a guy like Boyle to Edmonton they are going to want someone to help now so say a Ryan Whitney on D and a UFa winger like Jones. It would be a multi player ,pick deal

they are not going to trade Asham they just signed him and he's been hurt the last bunch of games.

Pyatt, sure they may move him but again they need a replacement now.

I'm holding myself back from responding negatively to this :help: :shakehead

Kwayry 03-21-2013 10:11 AM

I see Halpern, Pyatt and Asham as expendable.
I don't think Boyle is moving.
Boyle will take over as 4th line center (Edit: Next season) with Haley/Mash and Powe as the wings.

Anthony Eclair 03-21-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kwayry (Post 62095069)
I see Halpern, Pyatt and Asham as expendable.
I don't think Boyle is moving.
Boyle will take over as 4th line center with Haley/Mash and Powe as the wings.

Why Halpern? He's one of our best penalty killers. And Mash? Try Kreider first because if we got rid of Pyatt, Kreider would fill in and Pyatt is usually either on the line with Boyle and Powe or Boyle and Miller which would make Kreider on those lines potentially. Or they would try to put Kreider in with Callahan and Stepan if they see an improvement. But my point is, we can't leave Halpern because of the PK and I think Pyatt is a very smart player who can work the boards and make some smart plays that lead to goals. We need more awareness and that's how these players that you guys are talking about work. Think a little bit guys, they might not be putting up numbers, but they save some numbers from being put up on the other teams scoreboard.

Kwayry 03-21-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lordhenrikthegr819 (Post 62095729)
Why Halpern? He's one of our best penalty killers. And Mash? Try Kreider first because if we got rid of Pyatt, Kreider would fill in and Pyatt is usually either on the line with Boyle and Powe or Boyle and Miller which would make Kreider on those lines potentially. Or they would try to put Kreider in with Callahan and Stepan if they see an improvement. But my point is, we can't leave Halpern because of the PK and I think Pyatt is a very smart player who can work the boards and make some smart plays that lead to goals. We need more awareness and that's how these players that you guys are talking about work. Think a little bit guys, they might not be putting up numbers, but they save some numbers from being put up on the other teams scoreboard.



See my edited post.

Anthony Eclair 03-21-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kwayry (Post 62095863)
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Seatoo 03-21-2013 11:54 AM

Raymond/Higgins for Boyle

Or a prospect like Sauve/Rodin/Stefan Schnider + a 3rd

Vitto79 03-21-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Seatoo (Post 62099701)
Raymond/Higgins for Boyle

Or a prospect like Sauve/Rodin/Stefan Schnider + a 3rd

I think the Rangers would take Raymond for boyle then send a 3rd for a 3rd line C


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