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HF Article 03-23-2013 01:15 PM

Misfortune and lost potential define Philadelphia Flyers' 2008 draft class
 

The 2008 Draft Class for the Philadelphia Flyers is an odd look at a success that could have been. It is not as if the organization should chalk the entire year as a front office failure, but it does boast a few cautionary tales of how doing everything seemingly correctly can still bring about disastrous consequences. A team can prepare for the worst but bad luck can find anyone at any time.



The draft started for the Flyers with a pair of 1st round picks and a 3rd floating in the Flyers' pocket. General Manager Paul Holmgren had traded forward R.J. read more



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GoneFullHextall 03-23-2013 01:23 PM

draft picks and having prospects is overrated.

AMIRITE?

Beef Invictus 03-23-2013 01:40 PM

Depressing.

Nuclear 03-23-2013 02:25 PM

So many 1st rounders gone.

Williams, Richards, Carter, Pitkanen, JVR, Downie, Sbisa, 2004, 2009, 2010, and that extra 2008 1st.

Snotbubbles 03-23-2013 04:44 PM

So many first rounders brought in.

Hartnell, Coburn, Mezsaros, Schenn, Schenn, Voracek, Couturier.

Beef Invictus 03-23-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Snotbubbles (Post 62241317)
So many first rounders brought in.

Hartnell, Coburn, Mezsaros, Schenn, Schenn, Voracek, Couturier.

You'll notice that's less than the amount sent out. Which is probably why there are so few prospects.

Coppy 03-23-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 62245427)
You'll notice that's less than the amount sent out. Which is probably why there are so few prospects.

Eh, most of those picks and players were dealt for futures/same age players. The Pronger deal was really the only one where you could say they traded futures for an aging veteran.

Pantokrator 03-23-2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Snotbubbles (Post 62241317)
So many first rounders brought in.

Hartnell, Coburn, Mezsaros, Schenn, Schenn, Voracek, Couturier.

Don't forget Gagne is one who was gone and brought back! That has to count for something...as does Boucher...

bp spec 03-23-2013 10:37 PM

Not a very fun read.

04' hockey 03-24-2013 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuclear (Post 62232811)
So many 1st rounders gone.

Williams, Richards, Carter, Pitkanen, JVR, Downie, Sbisa, 2004, 2009, 2010, and that extra 2008 1st.

Why we're in the shape we are now :shakehead

The Flyers have always pissed away draft choices, starting with the King's ransom for Ol' mommie's boy :help:

I know, I know, EVERY hockey analyst liked him but how did that trade turn out ?
would have LOVED to have seen Forsberg's career as a FLYER :cheers:

Rick Deckard 03-24-2013 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuclear (Post 62232811)
So many 1st rounders gone.

Williams, Richards, Carter, Pitkanen, JVR, Downie, Sbisa, 2004, 2009, 2010, and that extra 2008 1st.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snotbubbles (Post 62241317)
So many first rounders brought in.

Hartnell, Coburn, Mezsaros, Schenn, Schenn, Voracek, Couturier.

I can see ONE bad trade with all those moves, the '08 1st for Steve Eminger (who's been a 1st himself).

BobbyClarkeFan16 03-24-2013 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Deckard (Post 62282221)
I can see ONE bad trade with all those moves, the '08 1st for Steve Eminger (who's been a 1st himself).

Such a shame about Eminger. His development was mishandled right from the very beginning in Washington. He was really something special when he was drafted and the Capitals tried turning him into something he wasn't. He was a solid two-way defenseman when he was drafted and the Capitals tried turning him into an offensive defenseman (he had good offensive skill, but he was never great) and when it blew up on them, they tried turning him into a defensive defenseman, but he just wasn't physical enough. They killed his confidence and by the time he got to Philadelphia, it was pretty much over for him. He showed signs of turning it around, but he was dealt very quickly. Too bad because I think if he would have been given the chance here, he could have turned it around.

RJ8812* 03-24-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyClarkeFan16 (Post 62283125)
Such a shame about Eminger. His development was mishandled right from the very beginning in Washington. He was really something special when he was drafted and the Capitals tried turning him into something he wasn't. He was a solid two-way defenseman when he was drafted and the Capitals tried turning him into an offensive defenseman (he had good offensive skill, but he was never great) and when it blew up on them, they tried turning him into a defensive defenseman, but he just wasn't physical enough. They killed his confidence and by the time he got to Philadelphia, it was pretty much over for him. He showed signs of turning it around, but he was dealt very quickly. Too bad because I think if he would have been given the chance here, he could have turned it around.

No.

He'll never be more than a 6th/7th defenseman

BobbyClarkeFan16 03-24-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ8812 (Post 62283255)
No.

He'll never be more than a 6th/7th defenseman

I'd have no problems with that. He was averaging 17:47 in ice time when he played with the Flyers and while he started out slowly, he did start turning things around after his fifth game. Honestly, he was no worse than Ryan Parent, Osi Vananen and Andrew Alberts. He could have been a very good bottom pairing guy. Now, I can't complain with the player they got in return because as much as Matt Carle is despised on here, he was very good during his time here.

RJ8812* 03-24-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyClarkeFan16 (Post 62283769)
I'd have no problems with that. He was averaging 17:47 in ice time when he played with the Flyers and while he started out slowly, he did start turning things around after his fifth game. Honestly, he was no worse than Ryan Parent, Osi Vananen and Andrew Alberts. He could have been a very good bottom pairing guy. Now, I can't complain with the player they got in return because as much as Matt Carle is despised on here, he was very good during his time here.

It's still Homer's worst trade. You don't give up a 1st round pick for a depth defenseman

When Homer offered WSH that, I bet they laughed and couldnt believe it

BobbyClarkeFan16 03-24-2013 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ8812 (Post 62283851)
It's still Homer's worst trade. You don't give up a 1st round pick for a depth defenseman

When Homer offered WSH that, I bet they laughed and couldnt believe it

Oh agreed. Holmgren should have never given up a 1st for Eminger. A third maybe but yeah, a first was complete overpayment. My only thing that I wanted was for the Flyers to give him a full season to see if he could turn it around. Instead, they gave him zero chance to prove himself and jettisoned him after 12 games. On top of it, they gave up on Steve Downie very early as well.


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